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welp i'm 27, first time voter. pretty easy as it turns out. voted for libertarian and democrat and reform parties. voted yes on a proposition to raise ciggarette tax $.70!!! per pack.
 
Originally posted by: austonia
welp i'm 27, first time voter. pretty easy as it turns out. voted for libertarian and democrat and reform parties. voted yes on a proposition to raise ciggarette tax $.70!!! per pack.
You voted Libertarian but supported an increase in taxes?? 😕 You do realize that, with government now making more money per pack than the tobacco companies and the various governments becoming more dependent on this income, these taxes will do little to stop smoking, right? In fact, if these taxes continue, I fully expect for the government to begin encouraging smoking in a few years, as a way to increase revenue.
 
Originally posted by: PSYWVic
Originally posted by: austonia
welp i'm 27, first time voter. pretty easy as it turns out. voted for libertarian and democrat and reform parties. voted yes on a proposition to raise ciggarette tax $.70!!! per pack.
You voted Libertarian but supported an increase in taxes?? 😕 You do realize that, with government now making more money per pack than the tobacco companies and the various governments becoming more dependent on this income, these taxes will do little to stop smoking, right? In fact, if these taxes continue, I fully expect for the government to begin encouraging smoking in a few years, as a way to increase revenue.

I support the increased tobacco penalty because it may make one+ person say "hell, it's not worth $4 a pack." on the other hand, i doubt not even one person will say "now that it's $4 a pack, time to start smoking."

the money goes towards education (think : thetruth.com), research, and to help pay for health care costs for aging smokers that otherwise have to paid for by the non-smoking majority. of course, I consider smoking-related health care costs a waste of MY taxes. this path may not be something we can call "extremely" effective, but it helps a little, and it's better than doing nothing. got a better plan to phase it out? or at least, keep it's effects from impacting the non-smoking majority?

That last sentance doesn't even need comment.
 
Originally posted by: austonia
Originally posted by: PSYWVic
Originally posted by: austonia
welp i'm 27, first time voter. pretty easy as it turns out. voted for libertarian and democrat and reform parties. voted yes on a proposition to raise ciggarette tax $.70!!! per pack.
You voted Libertarian but supported an increase in taxes?? 😕 You do realize that, with government now making more money per pack than the tobacco companies and the various governments becoming more dependent on this income, these taxes will do little to stop smoking, right? In fact, if these taxes continue, I fully expect for the government to begin encouraging smoking in a few years, as a way to increase revenue.

I support the increased tobacco penalty because it may make one+ person say "hell, it's not worth $4 a pack." on the other hand, i doubt not even one person will say "now that it's $4 a pack, time to start smoking."

the money goes towards education (think : thetruth.com), research, and to help pay for health care costs for aging smokers that otherwise have to paid for by the non-smoking majority. of course, I consider smoking-related health care costs a waste of MY taxes. this path may not be something we can call "extremely" effective, but it helps a little, and it's better than doing nothing. got a better plan to phase it out? or at least, keep it's effects from impacting the non-smoking majority?

That last sentance doesn't even need comment.

It doesn't? At the beginning of this year, the state of WA implemented a HUGE voter-passed cigarette tax. Almost immediately, tobacco sales went down. Those who had fallen for the LIE, like you, cheered that their battle against smoking was being won. WA state's Dept. of Revenue sang a different tune though. Because cigarette tax revenue was less than expected, they said, they needed to find a way to boost tobacco sales. This is not BS. Also, if you believe that cost has anything to do with stopping or preventing addiction, then I would say that you know nothing about addiction. You don't see the high cost of heroin keeping people from becoming addicted to it, do you? Have you EVER heard anyone say they didn't want to become a heroin addict because it was too expensive?
And why should anyone's health care costs be paid for by your taxes? Are you not using a fault of socialism to encourage even more socialism? Also, that figure itself is another lie, like many statistics. The most expensive health care goes to people who live too long a life, not the other way around.
 
Originally posted by: MrPhelps
Originally posted by: flavio
Straight ticket voters are mindless ignorant fools.

If you believe in what the party stands for you have to vote a straight ticket regardless if you like the candidates or not. Its the philosophical belief behind the party.

🙂

enie meanie miney moe or what ever

Bullsh!t!! You can't put some inept corrupt candidate in office instead of an intelligent moral one because of the party. You have to research these people otherwise your a lazy sheep.

 
Dem Governor, because republican candidate is lobbiest, pandering scum.

Dem senate because Ganske is a weasel who doesn't have a clue.

Mix from there on out.
 
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