How will Subway pitchman Jared Fogle weather FBI investigation?

[CPA]

Good to see justice is being handed out similar to all these female teachers having sex with 14-15 year old boys. Now, I wonder those who believe 5+ years for a female teacher having sex with a 15-year old student was excessive, think the same in this case.

 

[madoka]

Go to my original posts to see how it's possible to question someone actions w/o calling them a rapist.

I never called him a rapist. I used multiple question marks and exclamation points which means there was surprise and question as to whether he was into child porn.

Many writers, especially in informal writing, have used multiple punctuation marks to end a sentence expressing surprise and question.

Yet that was enough in the mind of one mod to change the title of this thread and ban me.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

His wife is not even bad looking. Why even get married?

She isn't?

 

[eng2d2]

She isn't?

New pictures didnt look like that

 

[WaTaGuMp]

2014, still not feeling it.

 

[eng2d2]

2014, still not feeling it.

Thanks I feel it. I think I saw other katie on google pics.

 

[deadlyapp]

Wow why black?

because everyone knows there are no white footlongs
:awe:

 

[Drako]

Really sucks for his wife and kids. She probably can't wait to get their last names changed as fast as possible.

 

[JSt0rm]

Jared Fogle is going to get 5 to 13 years...


















Just the way he likes it...

 

[Oyeve]

because everyone knows there are no white footlongs
:awe:

Buahahah! Classic.

 

[eng2d2]

What will happen to his $15mil? Will he have enough when he comes out? I guess the 1/2 goes to wife. Lawyers fee is minimal about 20k. 1.4 million goes to victim. That leaves him 6,500,000. Still okay to live.

 

[z1ggy]

Good to see justice is being handed out similar to all these female teachers having sex with 14-15 year old boys. Now, I wonder those who believe 5+ years for a female teacher having sex with a 15-year old student was excessive, think the same in this case.

This is actually a really good point, thanks for bringing that up. Wonder if all the people getting upset here saying he should get the maximum sentence allowable etc, were raging out when the hot babe teacher blew her student a bunch of times. Doubtful.

What will happen to his $15mil? Will he have enough when he comes out? I guess the 1/2 goes to wife. Lawyers fee is minimal about 20k. 1.4 million goes to victim. That leaves him 6,500,000. Still okay to live.

He'll need to use a big chunk of it for anal reconstruction, moving to a different country and assuming a new identity.

 

[JSt0rm]

Im sure his 6.5 mill will give him a long life with lots of young poon in thailand.

 

[JulesMaximus]

2014, still not feeling it.

She's cute. What she's doing with that child-molesting pedobear rapist is beyond me.

 

[Phoenix86]

I'm guessing everyone is going through the court docs and posting info as they find it.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/19/us/subway-jared-fogle-charges/index.html

According to the plea deal and indictment:

• Between 2011 and April 2015, Fogle received from Taylor multiple pornographic images of minors engaging in sexually explicit contact.

• Fogle had conversations with Taylor about the child porn, but instead of alerting authorities, he "chose to benefit from such production by obtaining access to a significant amount of such material."

• The images and videos were recorded by Taylor at his home through the use of hidden cameras.

• Between 2010 and February 2013, Fogle traveled from Indiana to New York to pay to have sex with minors.

• One victim told investigators she had sex with Fogle twice when she was 17 in exchange for money, once at the Plaza Hotel and once at the Ritz Carlton, both in New York City.

• The same minor also said that Fogle had sex with her three other times before 2012, when she was 16.

• Prosecutors say that text messages, travel records, hotel records and a search of Fogle's home provided evidence of these arrangements.

• The same minor said Fogle had sex with another 16-year-old girl on another occasion.

• Prosecutors say they have talked to witnesses who can testify about conversations Fogle had with them offering a "finder's fee" for seeking minors for him.

OK, so he was traveling across state lines to commit statutory rape (16 in NY) and where did he get the CP? He filmed it himself.

That's about a dozen felonies right there. He's getting extremely favorable treatment imo.

 

[GoPackGo]

AOC in New York starts at 13. There are some rules to it but obviously the state feels a person can make that choice at that age. It's not nearly as bad if he were looking 6 or 8 year olds.

 

[TheGardener]

AOC in New York starts at 13. There are some rules to it but obviously the state feels a person can make that choice at that age. It's not nearly as bad if he were looking 6 or 8 year olds.

I believe you have mixed up age of consent and statutory rape.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Hopefully the courts make sure she and the kids get some of the millions. Hes worth 14 mill? only 1.4 mill for victims? Thats a good lawyer. How much do you think legal costs for this?

I would have no clue. It would depend how long he and his lawyer have been working with the DOJ. Given that the matter was resolved before he was even charged I wouldn't expect his legal bills to be exorbitant. Almost certainly under $250K, and probably considerably less than $100K. Keep in mind, though, that the fact that the government has agreed to accept $1.4M as restitution does not mean he won't be sued separately by victims - he almost certainly will, and he's at a huge disadvantage in defending those suits by virtue of his guilty plea. I bet between the divorce and the civil suits he will have very little left by the time he gets out of prison.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

OK, it's bad. Real bad. Not sure why he escaped w/o a rape charge.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/08/19/jared-fogle-court/31979091/

Prosecutors have agreed to seek a sentence no greater than 12½ years. Fogle agreed not to seek a sentence of less than five years. In federal cases, prisoners must serve at least 85% of sentences.

In documents released Wednesday, the plea agreement says Fogle traveled to New York for sex with at least two minors between about 2010 and 2013 at the Plaza Hotel and the Ritz-Carlton Hotel. The victims were 16 and 17 years old. Fogle repeatedly asked one of the minor victims and "several others" to "provide him with access to minors as young as 14 years" for sex. He told one of the victims, "The younger the girl, the better." Fogle said he would "really make it worth her while if she could find one."

He also offered "numerous prostitutes" — apparently adults — with whom he had sex a finder's fee for access to minors he could pay for sex.

Fogle repeatedly made travel plans to have business trips "coincide with his pursuit of commercial sex acts."

The federal government would not have jurisdiction over a rape charge. The feds can only pursue cases that occur on federal land or have some nexus to interstate commerce. If anyone were going to prosecute him for rape it would be the state of New York. They may not bother since he is already being convicted of multiple felonies.

 

[TheGardener]

Keep in mind, though, that the fact that the government has agreed to accept $1.4M as restitution does not mean he won't be sued separately by victims - he almost certainly will, and he's at a huge disadvantage in defending those suits by virtue of his guilty plea.

Exactly. His money will be long gone. His wife deciding to cut the cord immediately, might financially protect her and their children. But that is for lawyers to hash out.

 

[Phoenix86]

The federal government would not have jurisdiction over a rape charge. The feds can only pursue cases that occur on federal land or have some nexus to interstate commerce. If anyone were going to prosecute him for rape it would be the state of New York. They may not bother since he is already being convicted of multiple felonies.

The CP creation and distribution across state lines is a handful of federal felonies right there. The feds should pursue that.

The state should have pursued the rape charges, he admitted to them, why let him off the hook? I understand not going full bore with a dozen of each charge (for each count) because he's cooperating but at least get him for one charge of all the major crimes involved.

 

[Phoenix86]

AOC in New York starts at 13. There are some rules to it but obviously the state feels a person can make that choice at that age. It's not nearly as bad if he were looking 6 or 8 year olds.

It starts at 13 for others under the age of 21. They have some sliding type scale so a 20 year old dating a 17 year old isn't put in jail.

For anyone over 21 the age of consent is 17, pretty disturbing that you think it's 13 for someone Jared's age.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

The CP creation and distribution across state lines is a handful of federal felonies right there. The feds should pursue that.

The state should have pursued the rape charges, he admitted to them, why let him off the hook? I understand not going full bore with a dozen of each charge (for each count) because he's cooperating but at least get him for one charge of all the major crimes involved.

As I understand it he is not accused of having manufactured CP - just having viewed CP created by Russell Taylor and perhaps other CP (the Taylor warrant affidavit refers to Taylor being in possession of CP and bestiality porn that he was not involved in creating). If there were evidence of Jared having made CP they would most certainly have charged that, or at a minimum mentioned it in his plea agreement.

If I were Jared's attorneys my main focus would be on trying to prevent him committing suicide (as Taylor attempted to do when he was arrested). Jared has gone from being an independently wealthy, fairly young guy to being a pariah who will emerge from prison, years from now, penniless and treated like a pariah, needing to find a place to live as a registered sex offender. That would be hard on anyone.

Actually, when I was a Air Force JAG defense attorney about 12 years ago I had a client charged with CP possession die in a car accident while he was pending trial. It appeared to be either suicide or his falling asleep at the wheel (it had happened at night and there were no signs of attempts to brake - I believe he was going 70+ when he hit a tree). I had never met him in person and have no idea of whether he was guilty, but he was, like most people allegedly involved in CP, smart, computer savvy, and adamant about his innocence.

 

[Oyeve]

if I were Jared's attorneys my main focus would be on trying to prevent him committing suicide (as Taylor attempted to do when he was arrested). Jared has gone from being an independently wealthy, fairly young guy to being a pariah who will emerge from prison, years from now, penniless and treated like a pariah. That would be hard on anyone.

And well deserved. He should do the honorable and off himself.

 

[eng2d2]

why would he commit suicide if he pleads guilty? It seems like he is trying to salvage and hide something by pleading guilty. Perhaps thinking of his future when he comes out. If he wants to commit suicide he would have done it already in the comfort of his home. If he went through the trial, everything will be out, then I can see wanting to commit suicide.