How/Why did the Democratic Party get highjacked by the far left?

[Vic]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
btw Vic, you know that quote (in your sig) was a joke, right?

Of course. I still think it's one of the funniest things I've ever read here on AT, which is why it's in my sig
I'm a strong believer in Capt. Murphy's Law.

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
btw Vic, you know that quote (in your sig) was a joke, right?

Of course. I still think it's one of the funniest things I've ever read here on AT, which is why it's in my sig
I'm a strong believer in Capt. Murphy's Law.

Good. For moment I thought poeple would think I really did think that

 

[Jhhnn]

Most of the ravers on the right wouldn't know leftists if those leftists came and collectivized their property. We have no left in the US, not in traditional terms, anyway... nobody's calling for the dictatorship of the proletariat.

Nor do they recognize Fascism in its current incarnation- Mussolini defined it as the merger of corporation and government- it really doesn't matter who forces the merger, the results are the same...

If anybody is curious as to their own predelictions, in an objective sort of way, take the test-

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

 

[Piano Man]

The democratic party has been hijacked by the far left? WTF are you talking about. This whole country, including the Democrats have been shifting right since the mid-nineties. Christ, Joe Lieberman is calling himself a "moderate" democrat these days. That's when you know things have shifted to the right.

 

[Tom]

"Are you saying that this country isn't more conservative than liberal? "

It's all relative.

 

[FrodoB]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: FrodoB
I'm further right then left. Bush is by no means a perfect candidate for me. But he is by far the least of all evils and the only one with the balls to stand up to international terrorism. Clinton, a democrat, was completely clueless about the world he was living in. 9/11 happened because of Clinton's soft do nothing approach in regards to our national security. Aside from national security, I won't vote democrat until they stop forcing the views of the extreme minority on the silent majority. If most people understood the true beliefs of the far leftists that control the democratic party, republicans would sweep every single election without any trouble. But the leftist media is very good at what they do - manipulating the truth and brainwashing the general public. So we basically have a 50/50 republican/democrat split while the contry is probably at least 75% conservative 25% liberal.

The media is NOT leftist. That is probably the biggest myth in American politics today. Today's new media is owned almost exclusively by strong Republican-backing-and-contributing companies like GE, Lockheed Martin, Clear Channel and News Corp. Of the major media companies, only TimeWarner could be considered even mildly "leftist". What the media actually represents is the true politics of the hierarchy of today's Republican party (what I like to call the "Republicrats") -- big government, big profits, big military, big consumers. It is the neocons who are in denial over the political orientation of their own party.
To use your own quote: If most people understood the true beliefs of the far rightists that control the democratic party, Democrats would sweep every single election without any trouble. Both of our major parties are equally fscked up today. Bipartisan politics has nothing to do with actually political ideology anymore, and everything to do with the dollar signs. All that your post here has proven, my friend, is that you have fallen for the propaganda -- hook, line, and sinker.

You must not be living in the same world as the rest of us. The media constantly takes shots at the president and goes out of its way to promote liberalism.

 

[FrodoB]

Originally posted by: Piano Man
The democratic party has been hijacked by the far left? WTF are you talking about. This whole country, including the Democrats have been shifting right since the mid-nineties. Christ, Joe Lieberman is calling himself a "moderate" democrat these days. That's when you know things have shifted to the right.

THe democrats haven't shifted right. It appears that their attempts to make people think they're not far leftist wackos have worked on you.

 

[Tom]

How are you able to discern who is a wacko ?

 

[Zephyr106]

Anyone not as extreme right as FrodoB is a wacko. What is wrong with you people who don't hate minorities?

Zephyr

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: FrodoB
I'm further right then left. Bush is by no means a perfect candidate for me. But he is by far the least of all evils and the only one with the balls to stand up to international terrorism. Clinton, a democrat, was completely clueless about the world he was living in. 9/11 happened because of Clinton's soft do nothing approach in regards to our national security. Aside from national security, I won't vote democrat until they stop forcing the views of the extreme minority on the silent majority. If most people understood the true beliefs of the far leftists that control the democratic party, republicans would sweep every single election without any trouble. But the leftist media is very good at what they do - manipulating the truth and brainwashing the general public. So we basically have a 50/50 republican/democrat split while the contry is probably at least 75% conservative 25% liberal.

The media is NOT leftist. That is probably the biggest myth in American politics today. Today's new media is owned almost exclusively by strong Republican-backing-and-contributing companies like GE, Lockheed Martin, Clear Channel and News Corp. Of the major media companies, only TimeWarner could be considered even mildly "leftist". What the media actually represents is the true politics of the hierarchy of today's Republican party (what I like to call the "Republicrats") -- big government, big profits, big military, big consumers. It is the neocons who are in denial over the political orientation of their own party.
To use your own quote: If most people understood the true beliefs of the far rightists that control the democratic party, Democrats would sweep every single election without any trouble. Both of our major parties are equally fscked up today. Bipartisan politics has nothing to do with actually political ideology anymore, and everything to do with the dollar signs. All that your post here has proven, my friend, is that you have fallen for the propaganda -- hook, line, and sinker.

CNN, founded by the husband of Hanoi Jane...
CBS....lead anchor..Dan "I'd" Rather "have dinner with Saddam"
ABC...Peter "Socialism Works in Canada, right" Jennings

I could go one...but I'll leave that to the kiddies

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: FrodoB
I'm further right then left. Bush is by no means a perfect candidate for me. But he is by far the least of all evils and the only one with the balls to stand up to international terrorism. Clinton, a democrat, was completely clueless about the world he was living in. 9/11 happened because of Clinton's soft do nothing approach in regards to our national security. Aside from national security, I won't vote democrat until they stop forcing the views of the extreme minority on the silent majority. If most people understood the true beliefs of the far leftists that control the democratic party, republicans would sweep every single election without any trouble. But the leftist media is very good at what they do - manipulating the truth and brainwashing the general public. So we basically have a 50/50 republican/democrat split while the contry is probably at least 75% conservative 25% liberal.

The media is NOT leftist. That is probably the biggest myth in American politics today. Today's new media is owned almost exclusively by strong Republican-backing-and-contributing companies like GE, Lockheed Martin, Clear Channel and News Corp. Of the major media companies, only TimeWarner could be considered even mildly "leftist". What the media actually represents is the true politics of the hierarchy of today's Republican party (what I like to call the "Republicrats") -- big government, big profits, big military, big consumers. It is the neocons who are in denial over the political orientation of their own party.
To use your own quote: If most people understood the true beliefs of the far rightists that control the democratic party, Democrats would sweep every single election without any trouble. Both of our major parties are equally fscked up today. Bipartisan politics has nothing to do with actually political ideology anymore, and everything to do with the dollar signs. All that your post here has proven, my friend, is that you have fallen for the propaganda -- hook, line, and sinker.

CNN, founded by the husband of Hanoi Jane...
CBS....lead anchor..Dan "I'd" Rather "have dinner with Saddam"
ABC...Peter "Socialism Works in Canada, right" Jennings

I could go one...but I'll leave that to the kiddies

Do you always leave it up to your elders to finish the job?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
CNN, founded by the husband of Hanoi Jane...
CBS....lead anchor..Dan "I'd" Rather "have dinner with Saddam"
ABC...Peter "Socialism Works in Canada, right" Jennings

I could go one...but I'll leave that to the kiddies

CNN, owned by TimeWarner, which I listed as being on the left.
CBS, owned in parts by Viacom, Westinghouse (world's largest manufacturer of nuclear power plants), and Lockheed Martin (major defense contractor, especially for top secret projects), all Republican contributors.
ABC, owned by Disney (soon to be Comcast), which contributes heavily to both parties.
NBC, owned by GE, a major GW contributor and defense contractor. Thanks to their contributions to GW, GE subsidiary Electric Boat is up and running and making a new $10 bil sub in Groton again.
FoxNews, owned by News Corp, a major Republican contributor.

When you watch the news, you are not watching the views of the anchor. He/she is an actor. You are watching the political opinions and bias of the corporation that owns the news network and manages its editorial policy. What you probably think of as the "left" is in fact the "new right" -- national socialism.

 

[Red Dawn]

I think both parties have been hijacked by the extremists and niether of them reflect the Moderate views of the majority of Americans.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I think both parties have been hijacked by the extremists and niether of them reflect the Moderate views of the majority of Americans.

I agree....sort of. I do however think the left has more of a grip on the Dems than the right does on the Repubs.

Then again I could be biased since I'm a Republican. Then again I'm pretty much a fiscal conservative and fairly moderate/Libertarian on social issues.

 

[stnicralisk]

Edwards is okay.

I dont think any of the candidates represent very close to my ideals for this nation. I definately dont want Bush or Kerry to win.

I say we all vote in a 3rd party guy we can live with. I will begin reviewing the non dem non rep candidates and come back with a suggestion of a candidate that is neither extreme.

We should band together not as people with the same ideals but instead with the intention of creating a third major party.

I think there will be less problems OR the least favored current party will die off if a third party were able to step up to the plate.

issues2002.org here i come.

 

[SuperTool]

The real question is how did the Republican party get hijacked by big government liberals?

 

[Jhhnn]

I think you misunderstand, Supertool- the repubs want small govt when it's a liberal govt with extensive social programs, but think big govt is fine when it subsidizes a massive military budget and lots of corporate pork with huge taxcuts for the wealthy and enormous deficits...

Two entirely different scenarios... with two entirely different outcomes...

 

[0roo0roo]

Deversity did not mean Perversity

ah, remember those wonderful anti misegination laws? race mixing was perverse!

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Romans828
I am not a mindless dupe willing to blindly follow the Rebublican party over a cliff, but unfortunately this two party system leaves me little choice.

Why cant the leadership of the democratic party find its way back to a reasonable position? Its present platform leaves average, God fearing, hard working people like myself with no choice other than to continue to support the republicans.

Believe me Mr Bush IS NOT the darling of the "religious right" (because I say so and I happen to be the yardstick by which the religious right is measured )

All joking aside the left is alot further left than the right is right so to speak........

What ever happened to a normal, happy, America with a bright future?

This post says more about your politics stand in the US political spectrum than the it does the Democrats. Hold your nose and vote Republican.