How well do you think would Bruce Lee perform in modern MMA?

[Jules]

Originally posted by: Spineshank
His BJJ background has nothing to prove its credible. Great, so hes a black belt..you can pay Red Dragon dojo 5k to get a black belt..doesnt mean its legit. He may have taken Kyokushin but i didnt see for how long or anything..so to me he doesnt really have that much of a karate background.

http://www.graciemag.com/news/.../12104/2008-10-12.html

 

[meltdown75]

imagine how fast Bruce could nef

0_0

 

[Jules]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Tell me someone who does...and i dont mean telling me they did this or that style..i want a full background on their background.

Does Cung Le count?

Sure does. Majority of these guys were training in different arts before they got into mma.

 

[threeringbinder]

Originally posted by: darkxshade
In an MMA fight, I would say Bruce Lee is very capable of taking out any MMA fighter in the same or similar weight classes in a stand-up fight. Due to his speed however, it would be hard to take him down but not impossible and once this is achieved, I believe he's lost his edge and would lose easily in the grappling game.

Outside of the MMA however, in a street fight where there are no rules, Bruce Lee has the upper hand. Many submission moves in the MMA can be countered whether it be biting or clawing(anything to get them to release a hold). In this event, Bruce Lee has the upperhand in the standup game and if taken to the floor can easily get out of it and get back on the stand up fight.

:thumbsup:
this answers the OP's TOPIC.

which is... "How well do you think would Bruce Lee perform in modern MMA?"

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Jules

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Tell me someone who does...and i dont mean telling me they did this or that style..i want a full background on their background.

Does Cung Le count?

Sure does. Majority of these guys were training in different arts before they got into mma.

Well of course you and I think he does. Just checking whether he meets Spineshank's exacting standards.

There's also Cro Cop who has done pretty well in the K-1 World Grand Prix on a couple of occasions, though never won it. He seems to lose a lot to Ernesto Hoost.

 

[Jules]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Jules

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Tell me someone who does...and i dont mean telling me they did this or that style..i want a full background on their background.

Does Cung Le count?

Sure does. Majority of these guys were training in different arts before they got into mma.

Well of course you and I think he does. Just checking whether he meets Spineshank's exacting standards.

There's also Cro Cop who has done pretty well in the K-1 World Grand Prix on a couple of occasions, though never won it. He seems to lose a lot to Ernesto Hoost.

Yeah he did lose a few times to Hoost. I think it was 3 times?? I know that Mirko's background was kickboxing but i think he was a amateur boxer whille in the croatian police anti terrorist unit before he turned pro.

 

[Mo0o]

I would say he's at a disadvantage if he just jumped straight in since he has no jujitsu and no wrestling but given his freakish athleticism I'm sure he can learn that stuff. Not sure wat weight class he'd fight at though, it'd have to be featherweight or something.

 

[sourceninja]

Originally posted by: Spineshank


lmao

Great rebuttal. I totally see your point!

Oh and by the way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyoto_Machida
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Emelianenko
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karo_Parisyan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Torres_(fighter)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_Silva
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidehiko_Yoshida
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuki_Nakai
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickson_Gracie or any other god damn gracie.

not to mention the grandfathers of MMA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masahiko_Kimura
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A9lio_Gracie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_LeBell


My god I could go on forever. There are so many GREAT fighters with EXTENSIVE training in many martial arts prior to becoming MMA fighters.

Oh yea, I forgot my teachers instructor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlson_Gracie

and all his awesome students.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: sourceninja
Oh and Art means trade or skills, not something pretty. Combat is not flowing and pretty. Learning how to fight as efficiently as possible does not remove the art from it. It was silly white people trying to market what they were doing as mystical that made the whole art idea.

What a load of balls, Kung Fu was invented by Bhuddist monks, it was bound up with religion and mysticism for centuries before any white person had ever heard of it.

 

[sdifox]

shit, I just noticed Hélio Grace died Jan 29, 2009. RIP.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: sourceninja
Funniest thing I've read all day long. Thanks.

Point sparing does not equal fighting. Only a few styles of karate spar full contact, and of those styles they have good quality fighters who do well in MMA. If it was so easy to destroy anyone who kicked with their back leg (and you know, generated power) why wouldn't these guys enter MMA competitions and clean house. Or why wouldn't the MMA fighters be bothering to learn these techniques? I know as a MMA student, the last thing I would want to do is learn how to actually win easier.....I mean who wants to win?

The simple fact is the best fighters in the world today are in MMA. I know it's hard to accept after you were told stories about how your masters master once defeated 15 guys in a bar after he took his badge off and said "I'm not a cop tonight" using only finger locks and ki balls. But for a one on one fight, it doesn't get any closer to a street fight then MMA allows. Unless they have a blade or a gun, I simply don't see anyone taking a professional mma fighter in a one one one fight (Of course everyone has a punchers chance).

These are the same guys who believe those weak ass front kicks to the knee will shatter then knee.


Oh and Art means trade or skills, not something pretty. Combat is not flowing and pretty. Learning how to fight as efficiently as possible does not remove the art from it. It was silly white people trying to market what they were doing as mystical that made the whole art idea.

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[sourceninja]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: sourceninja
Oh and Art means trade or skills, not something pretty. Combat is not flowing and pretty. Learning how to fight as efficiently as possible does not remove the art from it. It was silly white people trying to market what they were doing as mystical that made the whole art idea.

What a load of balls, Kung Fu was invented by Bhuddist monks, it was bound up with religion and mysticism for centuries before any white person had ever heard of it.

For the record, kung fu is not a martial art. It is a category of martial arts. Those arts were created for various reasons, but mostly for fitness and self defense. Beyond that are you suggesting the romans fighting systems were not martial arts? Karate is not a martial art? Is Mauy Thai a martial art? Is boxing a martial art? What about Jujutsu? People who seriously needed to defend themselves from dying didn't care if it looked pretty, they simply wanted to live another day.

Is it any coincidence that when real soldiers pick something for training (like the russian or us army) it looks more like MMA then kung fu?