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zerocool84

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Pshh that's nothing, wish we only had things like that to complain about. Here in Cali you give teachers life long pensions that the state can't pay for and have already made multiple cities go bankrupt over, take insane loans to buy an iPad for every student that will be deferred 30 years from now, and make sure teachers that feed semen to students still get their monthly benefits from the state.
 

Exterous

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About the copies...I wonder if someone signed a blanket agreement for leased copiers and regretted it. Ex $2000/month per copier for 4000 copies. 5 cents for each page over the limit.... I've seen those contracts in higher education kill a budget because of a service agreement to cover toner and sometimes paper.

Xerox offers that level of service and it gets costly quick.

It wouldn't surprise me but you'd think they would at least replace them with something else

Man...Detroit Metro...ground zero for your career going to hell. Sorry to hear about how shitty it's going for her. My wife's sister is working on getting into teaching, I suspect she may end up out of state or somewhere else when it's all said and done.

Eesh. She in SE MI too? The job market is bad news for teachers around here. A lot of experienced teachers trying to get into better schools so there is a ton of competition and I would say it doesn't look too good for someone with little to no experience. Best of luck to her, your wife and you though
 

Drako

Lifer
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Pshh that's nothing, wish we only had things like that to complain about. Here in Cali you give teachers life long pensions that the state can't pay for and have already made multiple cities go bankrupt over, take insane loans to buy an iPad for every student that will be deferred 30 years from now, and make sure teachers that feed semen to students still get their monthly benefits from the state.

LOL, close to the truth, except for that semen part :biggrin:

We are also burdened by bloated administrative staffs here in Nor Cal. It seems like there are more administrators than teachers in our area.

Sucking the general public dry.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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as for maryland: When the budget cuts go through all the people leeching off taxpayers (directly or indirectly) are gonna take a big hit, their public schools will be the first to suffer.

I betcha 5 bucks a year from now its all shit.
 

mnewsham

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as for maryland: When the budget cuts go through all the people leeching off taxpayers (directly or indirectly) are gonna take a big hit, their public schools will be the first to suffer.

I betcha 5 bucks a year from now its all shit.

not sure about the rest of the state, but IIRC in montgomery county if the school board budget isn't > or = to last years budget than they get fined or some shit, it was supposed to encourage expansion I think.
 

ShawnD1

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Sounds shitty. I can guarantee you I wouldn't be making copies at Staples if I were a teacher. I'd adjust my curriculum to a system that doesn't require duplicates. Fuck it. 19th century here we come!

This. I remember having to pull out blank paper and writing answers on that whenever the copy machine didn't work or when the teacher simply didn't feel like copying the test. It worked fine. The teacher would either write the questions on the board or on the transparency thing.
 

lothar

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as for maryland: When the budget cuts go through all the people leeching off taxpayers (directly or indirectly) are gonna take a big hit, their public schools will be the first to suffer.

I betcha 5 bucks a year from now its all shit.
I'll bet you $1,000. Deal?
 

TheSlamma

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wouldnt suprise me. there was a article in chicago paper about stuff like this. There are many new administrative jobs that make no sense. they make 100k+ and do nothing.
Looking for this article in Google news search and can't find it, would like to read it if you or anyone can post a link. thx
 

BoberFett

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are they trying to scam their way into the local gov paying for ipads or something?

Ha - 3/4 of those would be missing/stolen/pawned in a week

Pshh that's nothing, wish we only had things like that to complain about. Here in Cali you give teachers life long pensions that the state can't pay for and have already made multiple cities go bankrupt over, take insane loans to buy an iPad for every student that will be deferred 30 years from now, and make sure teachers that feed semen to students still get their monthly benefits from the state.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechcon...ays-to-hack-school-issued-ipads-within-a-week

:D
 

SampSon

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Are you in Buffalo Ny by any chance? Sounds familiar.

This is why I live in the suburbs. So it's generally the same, but just less awful.

The public education system in the city is such a joke. It's gone from bad, to not so funny, to fucking awful to so awful it hurts to hilarious to so hilarious that it hurts to just really? If all of those involved in the upper levels of school management in the city just disappeared, the district would be about the same but save itself like 5 million dollars.
 
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StrangerGuy

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So your education is producing students falling way short of any acceptable standard and anyone who survived pass that grueling process comes out only to find their work outsourced to China/India. Fun times!
 

BoomerD

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Well I have a job interview at a sex shop at 1pm today for most likely minimum wage, so in comparison to everywhere else probably a bit better but largely the same.

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Schools are in trouble all over the US of A. Looked at mostly as a babysitting service so both parents can work, schools and teachers get ignored...until little Johnny fails classes...then it's the teachers' fault...even though the parents never attend parent-teacher conferences, don't speak to the teacher during the school year, and aren't the slightest bit involved with Johnny's education.

Add to that the distractions caused by kids who don't want to be in school at all...and will disrupt the classroom to cause problems for the rest of the class as a way of "lashing out" for being forced into the classroom.

Then, you have the problem of "teacher unions" and those who hate unions...a few bad teachers give boat-loads of ammunition for the haters to use against teachers who are unionized...completely ignoring the teachers who do their best under horrible conditions...often having to pay for school supplies out of their own pockets. (how many people would do their best in a job where they had to buy their own stapler, copy paper, or other supplies the company needs to do business? (for which they are allowed to deduct $250 from their gross income...mighty generous, eh?)

States and the Federal government keep adding requirements for school districts, yet keep failing to provide the funding for them...and even keep cutting funds and expect the school districts to "make do with less" while maintaining a high level of education. :rolleyes:
 

snarfbot

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What did they do with all the copiers? Hopefully they sold them but i wouldnt be surprised if they threw them away. Next year theyll buy new ones.
 

AViking

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This is going to affect your real estate prices as well as your education, crime rate, etc. You need to move.
 

T_Yamamoto

Lifer
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Well here's a little update.

Wake County Public School System had some money left over.

They're sending teachers to seminars and hiring subs for them INSTEAD of buying new books to replace the ones that are literally falling apart and mildew riddled. Wtf.
 

sdifox

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I have found the school district sizes in America disturbing. Seems to be a lot of overhead running so many small districts.

In Ontario we have 4 different kind of school boards. English Public, English Catholic, French Public, French Catholic. Yet we have a total of 72 school boards.

About 5000 schools and 2M elementary and secondary students, budget is 21B + 1.4B capital projects.

so per student is in the 11k range.

http://www.edu.gov.on.ca/eng/educationFacts.html
 

Vdubchaos

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wouldnt suprise me. there was a article in chicago paper about stuff like this. There are many new administrative jobs that make no sense. they make 100k+ and do nothing.

Doesn't apply ONLY to school districts. Corps are filled with positions like this as well.

:biggrin:

Government too.....

It seems like a race of "who can do the least and make the most"
 

Hugo Drax

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Before the last financial crisis, I looked up the amount of $$ S.C. got per kid from fed/state/local sources......$11K. How much actually made it to the local school districts...less than $6K. The rest was sucked up in the bureaucracy in Columbia.

VS like 40K a year we spend on fuckups in prison.

We spend 4 times more on the fuckups of society than on our young that have a potential.
 

Exterous

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What did they do with all the copiers? Hopefully they sold them but i wouldnt be surprised if they threw them away. Next year theyll buy new ones.

They were leased. I hear they got a few leased copiers for this year but my wife left that downward spiral for greener pastures


LOL Oh a necro and near Detroit?! Hopefully you moved.

Our area is quite nice (she commuted a ways to work). Not everything near Detroit is a shit hole
 

Murloc

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VS like 40K a year we spend on fuckups in prison.

We spend 4 times more on the fuckups of society than on our young that have a potential.
well it's not the same thing, the children don't live and eat in school and don't need to be contained by guards and don't receive medical treatment in school, also school is a smaller building for obvious reasons, the school also doesn't pay for clothing and bed linen and its washing.
Prisoners have to get all that in prison so it can cost more, depending on what the guard:prsioner ratio is.