Yeah, the feet are essentially monstrous bolts with little heads that keep this abomination level
I'll see if can get them onto plywood - that could do the trick as well.
Yeah, the feet are essentially monstrous bolts with little heads that keep this abomination level
I'll see if can get them onto plywood - that could do the trick as well."Prong" not phase.
Also, when you say it's 3 prong just like the washing machine, do you mean like a regular plug or are you talking about an oversized plug?What I really was referring to was the amperage of the circuit. Check in your panel to see what size circuit breaker the wires are attached to. Then check the gauge of the wire.
Your new range is probably at the very least 40A, if not a 50A model. It will also probably come with a 4-prong cord.
If the wiring/breaker is good to go, you can just go ahead and get a new range cord. Otherwise you'll be fishing new wire and might as well pop in a 4-prong outlet.
Originally posted by: paulney
Yeah, the feet are essentially monstrous bolts with little heads that keep this abomination level
Bolts? Grind the heads off.
Thanks for all the advice BigJ, I'll check tomorrow (don't want to wake up everyone shoving pots and pans in that range drawer).
SlickSnake
Diamond Member
- May 29, 2007
- 5,235
- 2
- 0
Take off the metal panel in the center under the microwave. The metal panel is most likely attached somehow with screws under the microwave.
Remove the black panel above the microwave. The microwave is most likely screwed in from the top above the microwave. It might be secured on the sides next to the microwave, but I doubt it. Once you remove that panel, it should be more obvious.
Remove the pan storage from the bottom of the unit so you can see how much clearance you have, and when you break it free set the feet on some piece of wood or cardboard before you try to remove the beast.
Check the wiring as was mentioned above. I would strongly advise on a new stove install that is that old to replace the wall socket, even if it is the same voltages or prongs. Also, take the cover off and look at the wiring in the wall. If it is burned or cracked, you might need a bit of a rewire or pull up some new wire from the wall, if there is any slack, and cut off the charred ends for a new socket. Personally, I wouldn't want to risk a new stove with more power and with features like a self cleaning oven that might burn down your house the first time you use it if you don't check or replace this wall socket.
If it works, list it on Craigs list for free and set it next the curb. Even if it don't work, someone will want it for scrap or parts. It will be gone in 48 hours or less in most cases.
Good luck!
Remove the black panel above the microwave. The microwave is most likely screwed in from the top above the microwave. It might be secured on the sides next to the microwave, but I doubt it. Once you remove that panel, it should be more obvious.
Remove the pan storage from the bottom of the unit so you can see how much clearance you have, and when you break it free set the feet on some piece of wood or cardboard before you try to remove the beast.
Check the wiring as was mentioned above. I would strongly advise on a new stove install that is that old to replace the wall socket, even if it is the same voltages or prongs. Also, take the cover off and look at the wiring in the wall. If it is burned or cracked, you might need a bit of a rewire or pull up some new wire from the wall, if there is any slack, and cut off the charred ends for a new socket. Personally, I wouldn't want to risk a new stove with more power and with features like a self cleaning oven that might burn down your house the first time you use it if you don't check or replace this wall socket.
If it works, list it on Craigs list for free and set it next the curb. Even if it don't work, someone will want it for scrap or parts. It will be gone in 48 hours or less in most cases.
Good luck!
Damn, that IS a tight fit! You really can't slide a dolly in underneath that thing? I find that hard to believe; you may scratch the tile, but you don't know if that part of the tile isn't already screwed up anyway.
Your other choice is to hire a contractor to do it. You know, someone with experience in these matters? It'll cost you more money, but if you get a good one you'll at least not have scratched up tiles.
Selling an oven + microwave all in one unit seems stupid to me, but I guess back then a microwave oven was as expensive as a stove/oven set. Now a microwave oven is one of the cheaper appliances.
Your other choice is to hire a contractor to do it. You know, someone with experience in these matters? It'll cost you more money, but if you get a good one you'll at least not have scratched up tiles.
Selling an oven + microwave all in one unit seems stupid to me, but I guess back then a microwave oven was as expensive as a stove/oven set. Now a microwave oven is one of the cheaper appliances.
Squisher
Lifer
- Aug 17, 2000
- 21,204
- 66
- 91
Like SlickSnake said, I'm sure once you start you'll see what needs to be done. Even if it comes out in one piece I'm sure there's enough flex in that thing to slide a piece of 1/8" masonite/hardboard under it to give you something to slide it on.
Just make sure you don't pry against any ceramic tiles without spanning a couple with some 2X4s.
Just make sure you don't pry against any ceramic tiles without spanning a couple with some 2X4s.
So
Lifer
- Jul 2, 2001
- 25,923
- 17
- 81
Originally posted by: BigJ
"Prong" not phase.
What I really was referring to was the amperage of the circuit. Check in your panel to see what size circuit breaker the wires are attached to. Then check the gauge of the wire.
Your new range is probably at the very least 40A, if not a 50A model. It will also probably come with a 4-prong cord.
If the wiring/breaker is good to go, you can just go ahead and get a new range cord. Otherwise you'll be fishing new wire and might as well pop in a 4-prong outlet.
Hehe. I was thinking the same thing: either you have a small industrial facility at your house and are paying bulk rates, or you don't have 3-phase power. ;-)
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
As others have said - the microwave is supported by the cabinets somewhere. Be sure to find those spots otherwise you'll be buying new cabinets to go along with your new range.
BoomerD
No Lifer
- Feb 26, 2006
- 66,304
- 14,716
- 146
I saw someone already mentioned lowering the adjusting feet. That should give you a bit more clearance, but not much.
People who install ranges for a living have long nylon slides they use to move these things. (think of the nylon cutting boards, only very thin)
They work them under each side's feet, then gently pull the range out. Not only do they reduce the chance of damaging the flooring, they provide a slick surface to slide on.
Personally, if Sears won't remove the old one for you, I'd go to one of the local appliance stores and see if their installers would do it...besides, you can usually get a better buy locally than from somewhere like Sears where they can't negotiate on the price.
People who install ranges for a living have long nylon slides they use to move these things. (think of the nylon cutting boards, only very thin)
They work them under each side's feet, then gently pull the range out. Not only do they reduce the chance of damaging the flooring, they provide a slick surface to slide on.
Personally, if Sears won't remove the old one for you, I'd go to one of the local appliance stores and see if their installers would do it...besides, you can usually get a better buy locally than from somewhere like Sears where they can't negotiate on the price.
alkemyst
No Lifer
- Feb 13, 2001
- 83,769
- 19
- 81
I am willing to bet the top cover comes off and the cover between the range and oven too.
then the microwave can slide out and you'd tilt the oven back and get a handtruck under it.
There should be a modelnumber in the over door or under it where the pots/pan drawer is (probably on the left front side once you pull the drawer out).
Use the model number and search google for 'model number manual' or model number parts
places like partstap.com have exploded diagrams of all the appliances making disassembly a breeze.
I actually have the manual, and the only way to disassemble it properly is to slide it out and remove the screws that hold everything together from the back. The very top is not the cover - it's a vent unit. You pop up the plastic, and it reveals vents that suck in the greasy smoke. I'm going to try and lower the assembly on the leveling legs and slide some plastic pieces underneath, then slide it out.
- Oct 30, 2000
- 42,589
- 5
- 0
Once you remove the bottom bin, you may have access to the frame.
If so, placing a dolly with supports under the main frame and then altering the leveling legs may allow you the freedom to slide the unit out.
If you can not get the clearance, then using a 2x4 to lift the frame up enough slide a thin sheet of plywood or metal under the leveling legs.
Either method should then protect the tile underneath (if there actually is tile).
If so, placing a dolly with supports under the main frame and then altering the leveling legs may allow you the freedom to slide the unit out.
If you can not get the clearance, then using a 2x4 to lift the frame up enough slide a thin sheet of plywood or metal under the leveling legs.
Either method should then protect the tile underneath (if there actually is tile).
You have the right idea. This is what I would do:
1. Disassemble as many parts as humanly possible to reduce the weight. You can probably take off all of the doors, the drawer, and the burners at the very least.
2. Get some very thin/solid plastic and cover it with some kind of oil (baby oil since that is easier to clean?) to protect the tile.
3. With the drawer removed, see what you can do to grip it at the bottom. Gripping at the bottom and pulling will be a necessity here. You may need some gloves which help you grip it.
4. Remove the burners. Get two strong guys to help you. They may also need gloves. They will need to stand on both sides of this thing to pull it by gripping the area where the two front burners used to be.
5. Pulling from the bottom could be tricky. Be creative. There are different ways to do this. I would try lying on my back while gripping some area on the bottom where the drawer was removed. I would place my left foot against the left cabinet (left as in your left while facing the cooking range) and my right foot against the drawers on the right. If you are not straddled too far (this will depend on how tall you are) then you should be able to push with your feet and pull at the same time. If that doesn't work then try to grip the bottom another way. You need to time your pulling with your buddies in order to apply the most force.
6. Once you finally get it out, then you need a flat dolly with wheels. You will need to tip the range over some while having a lot of guys support it so that one of you can slip the cart under the range. Put the range back down and roll it out.
Good luck. This looks hard as hell.
1. Disassemble as many parts as humanly possible to reduce the weight. You can probably take off all of the doors, the drawer, and the burners at the very least.
2. Get some very thin/solid plastic and cover it with some kind of oil (baby oil since that is easier to clean?) to protect the tile.
3. With the drawer removed, see what you can do to grip it at the bottom. Gripping at the bottom and pulling will be a necessity here. You may need some gloves which help you grip it.
4. Remove the burners. Get two strong guys to help you. They may also need gloves. They will need to stand on both sides of this thing to pull it by gripping the area where the two front burners used to be.
5. Pulling from the bottom could be tricky. Be creative. There are different ways to do this. I would try lying on my back while gripping some area on the bottom where the drawer was removed. I would place my left foot against the left cabinet (left as in your left while facing the cooking range) and my right foot against the drawers on the right. If you are not straddled too far (this will depend on how tall you are) then you should be able to push with your feet and pull at the same time. If that doesn't work then try to grip the bottom another way. You need to time your pulling with your buddies in order to apply the most force.
6. Once you finally get it out, then you need a flat dolly with wheels. You will need to tip the range over some while having a lot of guys support it so that one of you can slip the cart under the range. Put the range back down and roll it out.
Good luck. This looks hard as hell.
Looking at the picture, unless he is able to slide it out some first, he will not be able to use a dolly because that requires the unit to be lifted up off the ground at least a little in order for the dolly to be able to roll it out. This is true even if the frame is accessible with the drawer removed. From the looks of it, there is not room between those upper cabinets and the range to allow that to happen. If I am wrong then this would be the easiest way though.
- Oct 30, 2000
- 42,589
- 5
- 0
Looking at the pic, I agree compeltely.
The unit & cabinets look like everything was designed together. No wiggle room in the Z plane or side to side.
He will have to slide something under each level leg and then slide it out with brute force.
The upper section may be attached to the bottom of the cabinet for support - that will need to be investigated before doing anything else.
MovingTarget
Diamond Member
- Jun 22, 2003
- 9,002
- 115
- 106
That is actually a decent setup. If it ain't broke.... you know the rest. Now I would just try to disassemble as much as I could after disconnecting from power then sledge/sawzall the rest. Happy bashing!
The vent is attached to the microwave via screws in the back. It's not attached to the cupboards at all - it simply recirculates the air back rather than vent it outside.
I'll tell you the model number tonight - it's an old Whirlpool, but I forget the exact numbers. They still have the manuals online for it, so you can see for yourself
It's very cumbersome to use: the giant microwave takes so much space, you can't reach the pans and pots on the back burners without leaning over very close to the burners themselves. This stove had a small fire on it (oil started burning), and the knobs have melted a little.
Very hard to clean, too. We just hate it. I'll be a happy camper once we get rid of it.
TRENDING THREADS
-
Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)- Started by DisEnchantment
- Replies: 25K
-
Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes + WCL Discussion Threads
- Started by Tigerick
- Replies: 23K
-
Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread- Started by TheF34RChannel
- Replies: 23K
-
-
Facebook
Twitter