How to make webpages in Firefox display properly?

spyordie007

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Originally posted by: bolido2000
Try this on FF and IE
My eyes are bleeding!

Seriously though the "fix" would be to have web developers build their sites so that they have proper cross-platform compatability. It's not FF or IE's fault when developers dont adhere to standards.
 

jjones

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: spyordie007
It's not FF or IE's fault when developers dont adhere to standards.

Actually, it usually is IE's fault.
Agreed, but for the most part, the developer can code to look well in both browsers.

I'll tell you one thing though, although I still use IE as my primary browser (actually CrazyBrowser), I've come to appreciate the legit complaints many have about IE breaking standards.

 

spyordie007

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I agree that IE has a history of breaking standards and introducing "standards" of their own (that only work in IE); but I think the majority of the fault is still with the developers that built the web apps that only run properly under IE.

There are some reasons to build an app specifically for IE, but that should be the exception (not the norm). I think it's a cheap shot to blame Microsoft because some developers out there failed to do their job right.

The OP's site is a great example of a web developer that doesnt know what they are doing (in either design or development); their visitors suffer from a ugly site, especially if they use anything other than IE.
 

bolido2000

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I keep reading people posting that after some "tweaking" in FF they don't have this kind of problems anymore. Is that possible?
 

hans007

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i only really code on php, but well its basically the developers fault.

theres a lot of things that work differently on firefox and ie. i've noticed even some java script. but seeing as that site is in asp, and well horrible llooking , i'd assume the developer didnt bother doing any QA on any non IE browsers.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: spyordie007
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Try this on FF and IE
My eyes are bleeding!

Seriously though the "fix" would be to have web developers build their sites so that they have proper cross-platform compatability. It's not FF or IE's fault when developers dont adhere to standards.

Are you kidding me? I'm not taking the blame completely off developers' shoulders, but if the two leading browsers behaved remotely similarly, the job would be a lot easier. You fail to recognize the fact that "cross-platform compatibility" as far as web browsers go should be a total NON ISSUE.
 

Mark R

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You fail to recognize the fact that "cross-platform compatibility" as far as web browsers go should be a total NON ISSUE.

Of course it should.

Firefox (and many other browsers, Mozilla, Safari, opera, etc.) all follow clear written guidelines for their behaviour and behave in a broadly similar way - there are some minor differences, but they rarely cause sites to fail completely.

IE, however, is rather unpredictable in its operation with a number of serious deviations from the guidelines.

So, while it may not be reasonable for a developer to test every browser available - it would be sensible to test on IE, and a non-IE browser. Since most non-IE browsers, by and large, follow clear standards if it works in one, it'll work in the others. While IE is certainly the dominant browser world wide - the remainder make up a significant minority.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: Mark R
You fail to recognize the fact that "cross-platform compatibility" as far as web browsers go should be a total NON ISSUE.

Of course it should.

Firefox (and many other browsers, Mozilla, Safari, opera, etc.) all follow clear written guidelines for their behaviour and behave in a broadly similar way - there are some minor differences, but they rarely cause sites to fail completely.

IE, however, is rather unpredictable in its operation with a number of serious deviations from the guidelines.

So, while it may not be reasonable for a developer to test every browser available - it would be sensible to test on IE, and a non-IE browser. Since most non-IE browsers, by and large, follow clear standards if it works in one, it'll work in the others. While IE is certainly the dominant browser world wide - the remainder make up a significant minority.

Exactly. Maybe I misread your response or maybe you misread mine, but it appears that we agree. ALL browsers should be following ALL standards so that developers' time isn't grossly consumed with testing on multiple browsers and then coding around the differences.

Because of the standards, you should be able to open up a page in any of these browsers and remain 100% confident that it will work across the board. There shouldn't be cross-platform testing because each browser should not be looked upon as a unique platform in the first place.