Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Originally posted by: Mill
If you want to be fluent...
Going to take a considerable amount of time. At least several years of study at the college level, and a significant time abroad in a Spanish-speaking country.
Fluency is an overused word. It is very difficult to become fluent in a language if you are not exposed to it on a daily basis.
I'm guessing he's aware of this since this is he had to learn English as a second language and has managed to become fluent.
Again, he stated he wanted to be fluent. Very difficult to become fluent in Spanish unless you experience significant time in Spanish only environments. I'm a skilled language learner, too, but I realize even with considerable time abroad and a bachelor's in Spanish I won't be fluent.
I have professors with a masters or doctorate that do not consider themselves fluent. My original point stands that fluency is an overused word. Fluency -- to me -- is having almost 90% or greater of your native language ability in a foreign language. Not many people can do that as an adult. Kids? Yes. They learn languages rapidly, with little to no accent, and can be ambidextrous in both. Trying to do it as an adult is much harder, and means you are fairly unlikely to become fluent.
Just speaking the truth. People equate being fluent with being able to converse or making few grammatical mistakes. It is not. I can converse about politics and advanced topics in Spanish, but I am by no means fluent, and I probably never will be even though I use Spanish everyday at home AND at school AND I have lived abroad and will be doing so again in a few months.
I just believe better precision needs to be given to the term "fluent."