Electrical engineering. I still have to decide if I want EE with an electrical concentration or EE with a computer concentration. I'm thinking the computer concentration. Would the job market be there for that?
Penn State, University of Pennsylvania, and all of the other schools you've actually heard of are NOT in the SSHE charter
GCC will be equally tough, I hope that it doesn't produce a GPA for me that looks bad compared to students coming from (maybe) easier schools.
Correct, but other folks were talking about Engineering and that is what Grove City (a private school) is definately known for.
Dave
that's a different thread entireley.... I have one word of warning... ask TheLonleyPhoenix... he's a HS classmate of mine and an EE at VT.... you had better be damn sure that you wanna get into EE. "Brutal" doesen't even begin to describe the workload... some EE's get sucked into the engineering farms at large coorperations working on chip design chained to their desks for the next 50 years, others do contract work, others consult, you get the idea.... a "good" job won't fall into your lap. You either have to find/earn one of make your own fortune.
1) you wont find engineering at a state school
2) My GF is an Ed major at a catholic school, dumber than dogcrap with at 3.9 gpa. I know EE's, CE's and CS'es (including myself) in the upper 2.x's because the curriculim is that much harder. Oh, and she looks down on us too.... That's life. Get experience on your resume.
3) GPA != life.
4) Your degree is a piece of paper, stop sweating it. Where you go to undergrad school really doesen't matter anyway... where you get your master's and doctorate does...
5) You need to do some soul searching and not ask these kinds of questions in a forum... try working in an IT shop 30+ hours a week for a few years with people who have perfectly descent CS degrees or EE degrees who's lives are just shadows of the dreams they once had and you'll quickly realize that there's a lot more to this than the GPA and the piece of paper.
good luck buddy and have a :beer: with your buddies on me... you've got some serious soul searching to do
2) My GF is an Ed major at a catholic school, dumber than dogcrap with at 3.9 gpa. I know EE's, CE's and CS'es (including myself) in the upper 2.x's because the curriculim is that much harder. Oh, and she looks down on us too....
That's life. Get experience on your resume.3) GPA != life.
4) Your degree is a piece of paper, stop sweating it. Where you go to undergrad school really doesen't matter anyway... where you get your master's and doctorate does...
5) You need to do some soul searching and not ask these kinds of questions in a forum... try working in an IT shop 30+ hours a week for a few years with people who have perfectly descent CS degrees or EE degrees who's lives are just shadows of the dreams they once had and you'll quickly realize that there's a lot more to this than the GPA and the piece of paper.
good luck buddy and have a :beer: with your buddies on me... you've got some serious soul searching to do
I have a friend who has a M.S. in EE and he works as a computer programmer. He writes the firmware for all kinds of interesting embedded systems which require specialized knowledge of audio/video and the math behind them. If you plan on going this route, plan on learning to love to program in "C" (not C++) and assembly language.
Dave
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Penn State, University of Pennsylvania, and all of the other schools you've actually heard of are NOT in the SSHE charter
Man... It's been YEARS since I've heard the term SSHE.
Dave
Brutal, yes, that's all I hear. But I can't possibly imagine what I'd want to do more.
I personally don't think I do have a lot of soul searching to do. Actually, going to a Christian school is great for that. I know what I love, I know the kind of lifestyle I want to lead, my school choice reflects that chosen lifestyle, and my choice of major reflects what I love. But is that choice of major a mistake? Will it truly be too difficult? Will it lead to depressing and unimpressive jobs? If so, I can't help but ask, what field wouldn't? ALL fields have a chance of leading to nowhere, that's nothing specific to EE. I just need to hope I can handle the workload, I need to hope I can finance my education without working much during the school year, and I need to hope that GCC has a good reptuation, name, and accrediation nationwide to make me desirable.
I would never list Temple along side UPenn or PSU. I wouldn't even place Villanova in there, but for argument's sake, ok.
You're a funny guy, acemcmac!
General Information
Public institution
Year founded: 1889
Religious affiliation: None
Academic calendar: Semester
Undergraduate student body: 7,054
Setting: Rural
Fall 2005 Admissions
Application deadline: June 1
Application fee: $25
Selectivity: Less selective
"Less selective" is not a good sign
Public institution
Year founded: 1889
Religious affiliation: None
Academic calendar: Semester
Undergraduate student body: 7,054
Setting: Rural
Fall 2005 Admissions
Application deadline: June 1
Application fee: $25
Selectivity: Less selective
"Less selective" is not a good sign
yeah, I did... for name recognition, I'd definitley list it as an upper tier school in PA. Nationally, I wouldn't say they do the same level of research as UPitt or UPenn, but everyone's heard of temple at least...
oh, and You're a deuchebag, mwtgg! :beer:
Originally posted by: acemcmac
yeah, I did... for name recognition, I'd definitley list it as an upper tier school in PA. Nationally, I wouldn't say they do the same level of research as UPitt or UPenn, but everyone's heard of temple at least...
oh, and You're a douchebag, mwtgg! :beer:
Fixed that for you.
Temple is only known because of their basketball team, and specifically Chaney's antics. If you're going by name recognition, why not put St. Joe's in the top tier?
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: acemcmac
yeah, I did... for name recognition, I'd definitley list it as an upper tier school in PA. Nationally, I wouldn't say they do the same level of research as UPitt or UPenn, but everyone's heard of temple at least...
oh, and You're a douchebag, mwtgg! :beer:
Fixed that for you.
Temple is only known because of their basketball team, and specifically Chaney's antics. If you're going by name recognition, why not put St. Joe's in the top tier?
Temple is several levels below the others in terms of academics.
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Villanova, Swarthmore, and most other private schools with engineering programs (at least in PA) are for rich kids who want easy GPAs for little to no work. The prevailing attitude is that if you're smart enough to get in, whatever grade you earn once there would have been an A anywhere else. Swarthmore doesn't even have a written honor code or honor board, because they like to think they're "above needing that". Right...
In other words, the commonly noted "reputable" schools are full of cocky assholes who had Mommy and Daddy push them through a $40,000 a year school to look good. Most of them have little-to-no serious research and few job-placement programs for undergraduates (Ivy Leagues being the big exception, of course. There are others, but they're pretty few and far between).
Someone suggested the U.S. News rankings, which is typically a good baseline to go by. However, employers are not blind to the quality of education provided at different universities. Look for stuff like:
-Percentage of graduates moving onto graduate school
-Job placement percentage after graduation for those not going to graduate school
-Research opportunities for undergrads
If you really want to know what a good school is for engineering, ask someone who employs engineers.
In other words, the commonly noted "reputable" schools are full of cocky assholes who had Mommy and Daddy push them through a $40,000 a year school to look good. Most of them have little-to-no serious research and few job-placement programs for undergraduates (Ivy Leagues being the big exception, of course. There are others, but they're pretty few and far between).
Someone suggested the U.S. News rankings, which is typically a good baseline to go by. However, employers are not blind to the quality of education provided at different universities. Look for stuff like:
-Percentage of graduates moving onto graduate school
-Job placement percentage after graduation for those not going to graduate school
-Research opportunities for undergrads
If you really want to know what a good school is for engineering, ask someone who employs engineers.
Haha I'm from PA and have heard of it. I don't know how good it is, but I know it has a really cool name! That's what I like about it.
I goto millersville and its a fine school. I have had a great education there and teacher/class wise i have no problem with it. I find it better then a lot of the toher state schools around here such as shipensburg. I also have a lot of friends at bloom and they enjoy it there too..although its a bit more cold.
All of those colelges are fine and are cheeper...and if you do well in school you can pretty much do what you want. Going to one of these state schools doenst really stop you from getting into another grad program or a job then another as long as you do well. Well you wont be considered the same as say a Harvard graduate but thats an extreme.
Honestly I am thinking about transfering. I am a coming junior and i know its late to think about it but it a small town with not much to do and i feel like i would do better in the city with a bigger population. Dont get me wrong..this place has a lot of nice people and its a great community just not as much night life.
Though i am giong into my junior year of probably a 5 year carrerr..to late to transfer? I have all A's by the way.
I read the first two replies and skipped the rest
Just make sure that if he is doing engineering, then the degree he should pursue is abet accredited....
not sure if other majors also have accredation to deal with, but if you have that than i wouldn't bother with the other stuff
Just make sure that if he is doing engineering, then the degree he should pursue is abet accredited....
not sure if other majors also have accredation to deal with, but if you have that than i wouldn't bother with the other stuff
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Hehehe.
Keep up with your work, stay focused, and you'll make it. What others see as extreme difficulty usually just means that you can't go out and start partying for the weekend on Wednesday. Fvcking business majors. :|
I put roughly 40-50 hours a week into schoolwork. Its not quite as bad as it sounds, just don't fall behind. If you love what you do then it won't bother you.
I'm a math nut, and I like physics, not chem so much, though. I think I would stay very interested in it.Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Hehehe.
Keep up with your work, stay focused, and you'll make it. What others see as extreme difficulty usually just means that you can't go out and start partying for the weekend on Wednesday. Fvcking business majors. :|
I put roughly 40-50 hours a week into schoolwork. Its not quite as bad as it sounds, just don't fall behind. If you love what you do then it won't bother you.
I understand what you mean, though. The term "difficult" is extremely relative. I'm not much of a partyer to begin with.
Do you mean 40-50 hours a week including your class time, or excluding your class time? If that includes your class time then it's not so bad.
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