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Hm, I'm considering moving up from a 14lb Messenger to a 15. Every now and then it doesn't drive through the pocket and I leave the 5 pin.
Exactly. You are a league bowler.
edit: You are serious about bowling on Monday. Not all the time, and there's nothing wrong with that.
You will not duplicate that average if you start traveling and bowling in tournaments.
Your balls are drilled to work where you bowl.
You'll find out that they don't work everywhere if you start hitting tournaments in the region, and you'll need different equipment.
I'm not talking bowling PBA regionals, either...you'd need 20 balls to do that right.
You need more fingers or wrist, not more weight.
A 5 pin is left by a weak ball, not a light one. At least not one pound lighter.
I suppose if you throw it fairly straight and slow, a heavier ball might help, but I still doubt it would cure the occasional 5 pin.
Good advice. If there is some 20 year old hotshot on duty, go somewhere else or wait until the owner comes back. The kid might mean well, but he simply cannot possibly have the experience needed to make an informed recommendation.....much like any 20 year old in any other non-fast food job.
I bowl 3-4 days per week, but just in a league on Monday.
I've bolwed plenty of different places. My ball works fine for different conditions, I just have to alter my approach or where I position the ball.
I'm not sure what you mean by a weak ball. I pretty much aim for the 2nd arrow from the right, suitcase grip, ball goes straight for most of the lane then cuts into the pocket. Approximately 16mph, my average is in the 170 range.
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Bowling a hook ball is a lot of fun, YoYo, and not that hard to learn. You don't really need a special bowling ball to throw a hook, can probably practice with the alley balls if you needed to, even though they wouldn't be great. I started bowling a hook with a 12lb ball myself.
Heh, i bet that went over well.
Thanks for the help (again), I guess i just need to find a smart/non a-hole pro shop manager to help me out. So a reactive ball is probably the way to go for me huh? I'm not planning to get too serious in bowling, just want to take the next step up, though i would like higher scores, who wouldn't? I'll probably just get one ball, a spare ball would probably help me out a good deal, but i don't have much moola on me.
Heh, i bet that went over well.
Thanks for the help (again), I guess i just need to find a smart/non a-hole pro shop manager to help me out. So a reactive ball is probably the way to go for me huh? I'm not planning to get too serious in bowling, just want to take the next step up, though i would like higher scores, who wouldn't? I'll probably just get one ball, a spare ball would probably help me out a good deal, but i don't have much moola on me.
If your ball works fine on different conditions, then I would submit that the conditions you've seen aren't all that different.
Going open bowling during the summer really isn't a good indicator. Lots of centers get slack on the conditioning when the leagues aren't rolling.
Sure, a good ball will work other places, but as you get better, and start trying to get over 210 avg to near 220, you will find that really watching your ball's reaction will help.
The same ball can't possibly be the best one over a wide range of conditions....IF you know enough to see how it reacts and you know your other balls well enough to know which one might, say..hook sooner, hook a bit later, not snap on the back end as hard, etc.
That can be the difference in your carry that game.
I don't know what you mean by altering you approach, but I hope you just mean slowing down or speeding up a bit.
Other than that, I don't like to see people make drastic changes in their approach just for lane conditions.
Bowling is about repetition...you should be doing the same thing in your approach every time.
Changing hand or wrist position...that's another story. You can alter the way the ball reacts that way, and that is the best way other than switching balls.
I've had many nights where I used one ball on the right lane, and a different on on the left, because of the reaction.
You just have to be somewhat of a student of the game to make that next jump...it isn't all about the physical practice....part of practice is learning what your equipment does on different conditions so you know when to make a change before it's too late.
I know plenty of old guys who are really good bowlers, but they are so ingrained in the old school that they just won't change balls. They try to move a few boards, or speed the ball up, slow it down...instead of just switching balls.
And they sit there all night and watch the ball not carry.
Pros switch balls all the time. Granted, they will drill a new ball in a second, where a league bowler doesn't have that option, but a league bowler doesn't really need 20 balls a week, either. A typical league bowler that is pretty good generally bowls on the same shot all over town. So he can use just a few balls, because he won't be seeing drastic changes in lane conditions....leagues don't last all day like PBA tournaments do.
A pro might go from playing straight up the first arrow in the early blocks, to standing even with the left gutter and throwing as hard as he can to keep the ball from going through the nose by that evening.
Food for thought.
That is a weak ball in this day and age.
By "weak", I mean your ball isn't driving hard left when it hits the pocket. (assuming you're a righty)
If you throw straight up the 2nd arrow and that hooks into the pocket, then you certainly don't hook it much.
So that's what's known as a "weak" ball. It's relatively speaking. Not a derogative term at all.
If I was on a condition where I was playing the 2nd arrow, for comparison, I'd likely be crossing the 2nd arrow, but the ball would be going right until it was almost to the gutter, then it would turn over and come screaming back. 5 pins on pocket hits simply don't happen for me.
And even though I throw a pretty strong ball, I have, by no means one of the biggest hooks out there. Plenty of dudes stand farther left than me, and throw it harder and still get it to come back strong.
I'd ditch that old timey suitcase release and start going for what used to be known as the "3/4" roller. More hook, particularly on the back end, where you want it.
The only way to leave the 5 on a flush pocket shot is the ball deflects....and they only deflect if:
1. They are too light, e.g., 10lb ball
or
2. They aren't still driving or hooking when they hit the pocket.
Get one custom made see through with a rose in the center.
Or maybe one with an iPod in it?
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