How to get marijuana for the state of Nebraska?

[ebaycj]

There's such a hatred of tobacco smoke that I wonder how mj smoke would be treated if it became legal to smoke joints? While there doesn't seem to be as strong a link to lung cancer, mj smoke still contains all the garbage of tobacco smoke and more of it, so it's no better for your lungs.

I mean, we have folks suing over tobacco smoke from the neigbor's yard, from the neighbor's apartment, and smoking restrictions nearly everywhere. People really hate smokers.

That plus the fact that you don't necessarily need to smoke mj for the medical benefits, you can ususally get those benefits via a pill form. It's often not really necessary to use your lungs as an air filter to get the benefits of mj.

Anyway, I always wonder how the tobacco nazis are supposed to accept second hand smoke that can make them high as well as dirty up their lungs. :biggrin:

Consumption (brownies, etc). Can't do that with Tobacco, it'll kill you.

Vaporization. No burning = no plant matter clogging up your lungs.

 

[ra990]

There just isn't any logic behind the prohibition of marijuana. People who argue that it is dangerous to smoke it ignore the fact that cigarettes are much worse for your health and they are legal. Some recent studies even show that marijuana kills cancer cells. Additionally, smoking marijuana is just one of the MANY ways to consume it. In fact, it is probably the least effective compared to edibles and vaporization, both of which have absolutely no dangers associated with smoke or burning plant matter (carcinogens).

Others claim that it impairs judgment. They ignore the fact that alcohol impairs judgment much worse than marijuana. Yet, alcohol is legal and regulated. Marijuana is much harder to abuse than alcohol and you can't die from an overdose of it, unlike alcohol.

The most laughable argument is that "Marijuana is a gateway drug." Well, yes it is, but ONLY BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL. Where do people get marijuana from?...DRUG DEALERS who often sell much harder drugs. People are exposed to these other drugs because they are forced to deal with drug dealers to acquire it. If marijuana were legal and regulated, people would not have to go through drug dealers and be exposed to worse substances. So, this argument really does not hold any water, in fact it just makes the case to legalize it even stronger.

Hemp is such a great crop and could help our economy and environment so much, yet because of these idiotic laws we cannot harvest it. We can make paper, fabric, fuels, and a dozen other things from it that will stimulate the economy and improve our environmental situation.

The fact that this harmless drug is illegal just does not make any sense. Legalizing it brings with it so many benefits and an end to so much violence and injustice that it must be done. Legalizing marijuana may be exactly what needs to be done to "win the war on drugs."

 

[Saint Nick]

Thanks for all the replies so far everyone.

I e-mailed our NORML chapter about five days ago and still haven't received a response. I don't think that there is really a strong group of people in Nebraska that has been formed yet that is for marijuana reform.

I am going to work on it. I'm in my final semester of college and plan on working on this a lot more once I'm out. I do have a lot of strong social connections and people who would back me on this, but I don't really have strong political connections. That could pose a problem.

I do plan to focus my organization and website on informing our population rather than using it to only show pros of marijuana. I would like the people who are members of our NORML chapter and my organization to have their own opinions.

Unfortunately, a lot of people have already made up their minds and will not change them -- this will pose a huge problem to marijuana reform in Nebraska.

 

[LTC8K6]

Consumption (brownies, etc). Can't do that with Tobacco, it'll kill you.

Vaporization. No burning = no plant matter clogging up your lungs.

Well yeah...I already mentioned that there's no real need to smoke mj. People just like to smoke it, and many people hate smokers of any type, let alone ones whose second hand smoke can make you high, or cause you to fail a drug test.

So, I don't see how people are going to accept mj smoke when they don't accept tobacco smoke.

 

[Vic]

It would probably be best not to discuss breaking federal law on a public message board.

Don't you usually pretend to believe in small govt?

 

[Ozoned]

http://mercycenters.org/links/Nebraska.html

 

[xj0hnx]

I think its interesting you mention that. Because a lot of people I have talked to said I am going to have to wait a good 25-30 years until all of the current politicians that are in now are dead or out of office so that they can be replaced.

I don't think I need to wait that long. But, it will be a time consuming process and require a lot of effort to pull Nebraska together to get this.

By creating my non-profit organization, I wanted to start TV ads and maybe getting some billboard spots. Its going to make all of the Republicans upset

I like what you're doing, just hate stupid comments like that. I vote republican, and an not just pro-decriminalization, but pro-legalization. I happen to think that the War on Drugs™ is one of the biggest crocks of shit this country ever started, probably more counter-productive than any in a long list of counter-productive entitlement programs.

 

[Muse]

I was wondering if anyone here had any tips on how to get this. I wanted to start working with NORML and maybe also create a non-profit organization dedicated to informing people from all walks of life about the pros and cons of medicinal marijuana. I also do understand that Nebraska is a relatively strong Republican state and this may not fly right away.

Does your state have medicinal marijuana? How did your state achieve it?

Thanks for any useful information or tips on how to get started. All of you flamers will be ignored.

I visited Omaha briefly in the 1960s. I was shown pot growing openly in the fields wild and it was explained to me that it was a varietal that wouldn't get you high. Hemp.

Here in CA medicinal pot is a big deal and it's continually involved with politics, law problems of an unending variety. It's one of those things that is a very different thing to different people. If you are sick and need it and it is a big help to you, you have a much different perspective than people who are uptight and controlling.

 

[Muse]

I like what you're doing, just hate stupid comments like that. I vote republican, and an not just pro-decriminalization, but pro-legalization. I happen to think that the War on Drugs™ is one of the biggest crocks of shit this country ever started, probably more counter-productive than any in a long list of counter-productive entitlement programs.

To me, you are an anomaly. A Republican who's against the war on drugs would seem to be an oxymoron. Where I live there are very very few Republicans period. People who are opposed to the war on drugs are apt to be Green Party, I'd think.

 

[Double Trouble]

If you are sick and need it and it is a big help to you, you have a much different perspective than people who are uptight and controlling.

I'm all for letting people use whatever works to cure their ills, including pot. Hell, I'm all for legalizing pot anyway, but I get very tired of this stupid pretense about medical need. It's complete bullshit and everyone knows it. A bunch of stoners want to get high without risking legal consequences. Just call a spade a spade.

 

[ebaycj]

I'm all for letting people use whatever works to cure their ills, including pot. Hell, I'm all for legalizing pot anyway, but I get very tired of this stupid pretense about medical need. It's complete bullshit and everyone knows it. A bunch of stoners want to get high without risking legal consequences. Just call a spade a spade.

Racist.

 

[xj0hnx]

To me, you are an anomaly. A Republican who's against the war on drugs would seem to be an oxymoron. Where I live there are very very few Republicans period. People who are opposed to the war on drugs are apt to be Green Party, I'd think.

Maybe I am, well, yea, I am, but to classify republicans as anti-medical marijuana is silly since there's a ton of dems that are against it, and even more against just plain legalization.

 

[LunarRay]

I'm all for letting people use whatever works to cure their ills, including pot. Hell, I'm all for legalizing pot anyway, but I get very tired of this stupid pretense about medical need. It's complete bullshit and everyone knows it. A bunch of stoners want to get high without risking legal consequences. Just call a spade a spade.

In California, a physician must certify that the patient meets the criteria as defined by law in order to get the yearly 'license' to use, grow and hold marijuana.
I presume those who wish to get high only (Stoners) are not inclined to go through that process since they already have the means to achieve that condition and probably won't meet the medical conditions.
I presume a Medical Doctor will not risk their license to practice medicine to enable a person to legally consume marijuana if their condition does not warrant it.

EDIT: For what its worth... I have witnessed a variety of positive affects on people with a variety of disease. I'm not too sure about the pain mitigation or masking.. cuz the folks I know (VA Hosp) also use a variety of meds for that but they've not sought to increase dose as the efficacy diminished or the pair ought to have increased over time consistent with the objective testing related to that.

 

[Tab]

Nebraska is a conservative state? If you goto norml.org and look up Nebraska Marijuana laws and compare them to other states you'll find they're actually pretty relaxed. I was a bit surprised too myself.

Anyway, it's just a matter of time before it's legal. Give it a couple more decades.

 

[Saint Nick]

Nebraska is a conservative state? If you goto norml.org and look up Nebraska Marijuana laws and compare them to other states you'll find they're actually pretty relaxed. I was a bit surprised too myself.

Anyway, it's just a matter of time before it's legal. Give it a couple more decades.

Yep, marijuana is suprisingly decriminalized here. However, last year they made the fines more stiff for offenders. They also recently made salvia divnorium (sp?) illegal. I don't use the stuff, but I do think that is complete BS.

I feel as if time goes on, the people who are holding office for Nebraska are going to continue to make the fines more stiffer, and then eventually even first offenses will be classified as a felony. So I really do need to get going right now.

I like what you're doing, just hate stupid comments like that. I vote republican, and an not just pro-decriminalization, but pro-legalization. I happen to think that the War on Drugs™ is one of the biggest crocks of shit this country ever started, probably more counter-productive than any in a long list of counter-productive entitlement programs.

Sorry, I probably shouldn't have typed that. I do want to appeal to all political affiliations and really anyone from every walk of life and I shouldn't single out Republicans. My apologies.

 

[Saint Nick]

In California, a physician must certify that the patient meets the criteria as defined by law in order to get the yearly 'license' to use, grow and hold marijuana.
I presume those who wish to get high only (Stoners) are not inclined to go through that process since they already have the means to achieve that condition and probably won't meet the medical conditions.
I presume a Medical Doctor will not risk their license to practice medicine to enable a person to legally consume marijuana if their condition does not warrant it.

EDIT: For what its worth... I have witnessed a variety of positive affects on people with a variety of disease. I'm not too sure about the pain mitigation or masking.. cuz the folks I know (VA Hosp) also use a variety of meds for that but they've not sought to increase dose as the efficacy diminished or the pair ought to have increased over time consistent with the objective testing related to that.

Don't people in California just say they have insomnia or really bad back pain? And that they don't want to get addicted to pain killers/sleeping aids? So they then subscribe marijuana?

I figured that is what a lot of people used as a loophole. I actually don't really support that, using the system just to get high, but I do support marijuana for medicinal use.

 

[LunarRay]

Don't people in California just say they have insomnia or really bad back pain? And that they don't want to get addicted to pain killers/sleeping aids? So they then subscribe marijuana? I figured that is what a lot of people used as a loophole. I actually don't really support that, using the system just to get high, but I do support marijuana for medicinal use.

I think there is reasonable disincentive to both acquire the 'license' to buy and grow the stuff cuz I think I understand the cost is higher than the illegal selling price, but I'm not sure. You can't lug around a ton of the stuff... there is a limit and it is consistent with a personal use scenario.
People can say what ever they think is appropriate to get the 'license' I suppose. But, folks with real issues can usually have their own MD certify for them. The stuff works!
I see the issue this way... It does work. It does cost more than 'street' price. It requires a yearly 'license' and that costs money and it costs for a doctor visit to get the certification... I don't know any dopers or stoners what ever the term is but I would imagine they wouldn't jump through the hoops and pay the money just to be able to do what they already do now, if they do.
The legitimate users that I meet at the VA Hosp DO NOT grow the stuff.. they've tried but it is such a hassle and for their own use it makes no sense. The buy from a 'vendor' licensed to dispense it.

I think the key here is the hassle to do it and the physician who certifies to the State that the patient is or will benefit from using it... The State can crack down on the physicians easy enough. The cost aspect is less than the orphan drug cost many benefiting users have to buy now... and as I said in an earlier post, the pain mitigation or masking seems to also work if you consider objective tests reveal an increase severity but not an increase in pain meds...
I don't know all the disease that falls under the umbrella for usage but what ever it is it must work on it... There are numbers of countries that enable its use.

I don't even drink... never have and never used 'dope'. But, do use pain meds... IF I was sure it worked on pain [I know it works on nausea, but not personally.] I might opt to try it when the current dosage of pain meds does not mask the pain. I have a few physicians and each have said they'd certify me when I'm ready to try it. I, however, am not sure it is for me... for others fine but personally... It still seems to be an illegal drug via Federal Law.

 

[alchemize]

LunarRay: there was a recent study that showed MJ + Opiates combined is a super-effective pain management tool, much better than either independently (or high dosages of opiates). Forgive me for not searching for a link at work

 

[cubeless]

LunarRay: there was a recent study that showed MJ + Opiates combined is a super-effective pain management tool, much better than either independently (or high dosages of opiates). Forgive me for not searching for a link at work

hell, everything goes better with a fatty, why would opiates be any different?

 

[LunarRay]

LunarRay: there was a recent study that showed MJ + Opiates combined is a super-effective pain management tool, much better than either independently (or high dosages of opiates). Forgive me for not searching for a link at work

Thank you for that!... I will check with which ever my next appointment physician is...
That is interesting... I might be able to actually cut down. I don't use all that much but don't want to increase under any circumstance.
I'm tempted, though... notwithstanding the Federal prohibition... I just can't see me violating the law...
Hehehehehe Have one kid arrest me and the other prosecute.. hehehehehe But, I've a couple left to bail me out.. hehehehehehehehhe

 

[LunarRay]

hell, everything goes better with a fatty, why would opiates be any different?

Sorry, but what is a 'fatty'?

 

[cubeless]

Sorry, but what is a 'fatty'?

view the screen classic 'up in smoke'...

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...mage_result&resnum=5&ct=image&ved=0CBsQ9QEwBA

 

[LunarRay]

So, a 'fatty' is a fat marijuana cigarette like thingi. Ok.. Thanks!

 

[xj0hnx]

Sorry, I probably shouldn't have typed that. I do want to appeal to all political affiliations and really anyone from every walk of life and I shouldn't single out Republicans. My apologies.

No problem, it's understandable, and not surprising repubs in general have been pigeonholed into the anti category.

 

[xj0hnx]

LunarRay: there was a recent study that showed MJ + Opiates combined is a super-effective pain management tool, much better than either independently (or high dosages of opiates). Forgive me for not searching for a link at work

That makes sense, weed seems to have an amplifying effect when taken in combination with other drugs, as well as helping with the stomach discomfort and nausea that are sometimes associated with opiates.