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How to get cheaper car-insurance

Aug 16, 2001
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I am moving to the US very soon (Jan).
Car insurance is hella-expensive. I have had a car in my country for 10years and managed to get references from my insurance company for only the last 6 months :disgust:.
I need to get an american license.

I've been checking prices on the web and as an example I choose an old Chevrolet Caprice -88 as my car.
They can be had for ~$2000.
The insurance would cost $1300 for 6 MONTHS. WTF!!!

Am I truly screwed or is there a way to make it cheaper. Do I have to suffer this bad for 6-12 months?:Q

 

Cooltech2k

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1st off where are you locate\ing in the us... that makes a big diffrence... 2nd Dont get full coverage on a car thats less than 5k. if you do than you will probably pay out the price o the car within the 1st 2 years....
Also Get a 2nd car...

Story Time:
Cooltech Bought a 93 Ford Probe GT & Than Began to pay the $1500 for six months, But than he added a 87 samauri to the insurrance & The Price of Insurring the Probe dropped to 400 for 6 months & He was charged 600 for 6 months for the cluncker... Moral of The Story, I Added on a 2nd car & Watched the prices fall....
 

Rudee

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I own a 97 Dodge Dakota Sport, fully loaded. The vechicle was purchased new for $27,000. Because I'm on a group insurance plan with Royal Sun Alliance in Calgary, AB, I only pay $630 CDN a year for full coverage. I'm a graduate of Southern Alberta Institute of Technology (SAIT) and University of Calgary, thus I qualified for a "Alumni" discount, which is saving me hundreds of $$$ a year. Look into seeing what kind of discounts you can get, especially if your a university graduate or something similar.
 
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I am moving to Tucson, Arizona.
The insurance coverage is confusing for me. What is the recommended minimum?
In Sweden we have something called (direct translation) 'trafic-insurance', that is the minimum allowed and covers damage on another car in case of an accident. Next step is to add coverage for fire-theft-glass-vandalism. That is what I would like to have but how does it translate?

 

StageLeft

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In Sweden we have something called (direct translation) 'trafic-insurance', that is the minimum allowed and covers damage on another car in case of an accident. Next step is to add coverage for fire-theft-glass-vandalism. That is what I would like to have but how does it translate?

Your trafic insurance is called liability here. It is required; minimum differs from state to state I believe. Your fire/theft is called comprehensive. It doesn't cost much. Lastly is collision which covers damage if you were at fault.

I just moved from Canada to US and have encountered the same problems as you so my advice is:

1) Get a used car that is worth so little that you cna risk not getting collision on it (I got one for $2300). This saves me about $200 every 6 months.
2) Make sure you have that reference from your company - you may be glad to know that although they only will count the last 6 months that is all you need here as a reference. I was driving for 7 years but my insurance company (progressive) only needed the last 6 months. Try and have that reference include the liability level you now have (your trafic-insurance), because if it was high enough you get discounts here.
3) PICK THE RIGHT INSURANCE COMPANY! I called geico because I thought their rates would be low. Well they are for most people but for people like you and me they wanted to screw me from behind. The reason was I've been driving 7 years in Canada but had a US license for only 4 months. In geico's eyes I'd had a license for only 4 months. Dumb swine. So instead I called progressive and in their eyes I've been driving for 7 years. Progressive is charging half of what Geico is.

I am 23 with no driving convictions. I am currently paying $340 every 6 months for the maximum liability that progressive sells plus comprehensive and a $250 dedutible on a '93 Sentra. Being married has lowered my rates a bit. If I went with Geico they'd want at least twice this. Also when here don't get any traffic violations (speeding tickets, stop signs etc.) becuase they can add points to your insurance and raise prices ;(
 
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Thanx Skoorb.
Things looks better now. The price I got was from progressive.com (?).
The 6 months reference seems to be worth gold. The bad thing is that my US-license will be fresh. I have been driving here since 1988.
Planning to get a $2000 Chevy, they look solid.
Some day the second car might be a 60's Mustrang.
:D
 

vi edit

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Things to lower insurance -

1. Get married
2. Go for higher deductables
3. Insure your house/renters insurance through the same company
4. If in college try and get good student discount
5. Multiple car policy

The single biggest factor though is location. If I moved from rural Iowa to the middle of Manhatten, my insurance premiums would probably quadruple, if not more.
 
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The rate dropped to ~$800-830 for 6 months when stating I have had insurance for the last 6 months (had to pick a random US-company) and minimum liability, property and bodily coverage.

I could live with that for a while. I don't understand why a second car will lower the cost. Should I go for a 1985 Yugo for $50 and have it stored in the desert somewhere. LOL :cool:
 

StageLeft

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That's not so bad but if you've been driving for 13 years with little or no accidents I see no reason why your insurance should be higher than mine - when you talk to a person at progressive when getting the policy explain your situation to them and it may help...
 

Hamburgerpimp

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I am moving to Tucson, Arizona.

I went to UofArizona in Tucson for College. AZ is one of the worst states in the US for Insurance Rates, even worse than CA. Mainly because of the armpit hellhole Phoenix up North. Tuson even feels it. My advice is to get a Mail Box at a place in the middle of nowhere and use that as your address. Like a Mail Boxes Etc, where you just put the box number as your apartment number. Smaller towns have much lower insurance rates. Second, as stated earlier get a cheap second car and insure both. You'll save 20% on your insurance and have a 2nd one just as a backup. All you need is Comp on the 2nd one and that'll be pennies per day. 3rd, keep your driving record clean. They will bust your ass anywhere in AZ for just 5 over the speed limit. Hope that helps.
 

Pepsei

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this is what my co-worker did....

he found out if he's a member of a credit union..he gets a discount with this insurance company(geico).....
then found out in order to be a member of this credit union... the easiest way is to be a student of any sort.

so he sign up to a $50 class (i think it was a short lecture on OCEA(sp?) safty course) at the local community college. put $100 in the credit union. and saved over $1000 in his insurance....

now... i think if he gets an A on a regluar class, he'll qualify for the good-student discount.

oh oh ... and then marry some not-good(rich)-enough-for-real-college types he'll get a discount for being married.

oh oh... and if he stop driving his 98 mustang and get a 90 88delta, his rate would drop even more....

so as you can see.. there are lots of options.
 

jemcam

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<< My advice is to get a Mail Box at a place in the middle of nowhere and use that as your address. Like a Mail Boxes Etc, where you just put the box number as your apartment number. Smaller towns have much lower insurance rates. >>



That's called fraud, and if push comes to shove, they could deny your coverage at a later date if you had to make a claim. Lying on an application is grounds for denying a claim. So, to save hundreds of dollars, you could be faced with having to pay hundreds of thousands if you injure someone.

I wouldn't do it. If you're going to do something like this, you might as well roll the dice and not even get any insurance at all.
 
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Some good advice guys.
The 'mailbox-in-the-desert-scam' is not an option. I am working under a H1B visa and breaking a visa regulation will keep me out of the US for life.
I think there is a possibility for a good deal when I see the insurance reps face to face. Don't think I need that Yugo.
Anyone known other insurance companies that offer on-line rate calculators? Tried Progressive.com
:cool:
 

laFiera

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i had geico and progressive as insurance companies before and then one day i got a call from my credit card company offering insurance; i let them give me an offer and it was half the price of what i was paying with geico; not only it was half price, it was more coverage; so callyour credit card companies and see what they offer; have citibank and they do their insurance thru travelers; then i told my friends and they have mbna and amex and they had cut their insurance at least by 40%; screw geicon and progressive..they are way too expensive although progressive's service was great!
 

StandardCell

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First off, Frustrated, you would only be kicked out of the US if you committed a crime on an H-1B. If the insurance company decided to charge you with felony fraud, then yeah, probably you would not be back any time soon.

Second, Geico is the one of the most unethical companies anywhere to deal with. Car And Driver magazine did an expose where Geico funded a laser radar (aka LIDAR) company called 20/20 with $950,000 of funding to finish development of their speed gun. Then, Geico bought a bunch of them at cost and handed them out to police departments across the country FOR FREE if they would write tickets with them on a daily basis. Their motive? Since they're the biggest insurer in the country, on average they knew they would ding a lot of their insured drivers with tickets and jack their premiums up. That fact ALONE should make someone drop their insurance with them. Their interest is not to support their insured, but to make money. Their rates and all the advertising they do should be a sign of that.

Third, are you moving to New Jersey? That seems like an awfully high insurance rate. New Jersey and a few other states are notorious for high insurance rates. If you are planning to work in one of those states, try to live in a nearby state (e.g. Pennsylvania vs. NJ). The rate you pay depends a lot on your nine-digit zip code. For example, my ex-manager in San Jose fought with his insurer because, although his neighborhood was very low crime, it was in the same zip code as a very bad east San Jose ghetto.

The determinants of insurance rates are:
1. Criminal convictions, esp. for drunk driving or criminally negligent driving (any conviction = more $).
2. Number of years as a licensed driver (less years = more $).
3. Number of at-fault accidents claimed against you in the last 3 years (more accidents = more $).
4. Number of moving violations in the last 3 years (more tickets = more $).
5. Age (younger than 25 = more $).
6. Marital status (not married = more $).
7. Zip code (high crime area zip codes = more $).
8. Credit rating (derogatory credit or no credit history = more $) and ONLY in some cases/places.
9. Type of vehicle (high theft rate vehicles or sports cars or SUVs = more $).
10. Amount of public liability carried (more public liability coverage = more $).
11. Number of insured vehicles (less vehicles = more $) but you may only need one policy.
12. Multiple policy discounts for home and other insurance (less policies with same company = more $).
13. Deductible amounts (lower deductible = more $).
14. Collision coverage on your own car for accidents that are your fault (collision coverage = more $).
15. Loss of use coverage on your vehicle to cover rental cars (Loss-of-use coverage = more $).
16. Your sex (male = more $).
17. Other features of the insurance policy (generally, the more benefits you choose to cover, the more $).

I'm sure I've missed a few points and repeated a few points, but these are the big ones I can think of.

One last thing - when you go to open your bank account here, make sure you go with a credit union if you can, and particularly any bank that your employer recommends or sponsors membership at. When you do, bring a copy of your credit report from your home country IF IT HAS NO NEGATIVE ENTRIES and INSIST that it be used to determine the percentage rate of a car loan. It can be difficult to even open another account if you have no credit history, much less get a car loan. Also, bring your credit report to your insurer but DO NOT disclose it unless they ask for it.

Good luck!
 

bozo1

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Check out Amica. I just switched to them and their rate was about half what others were quoting me. Excellent A.M. Best rating as well.

You have to look around. I've been quoted anywhere from $1000/year to $3500/year by different companies for full coverage.
 

FreeAgent

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My suggestion would be to find a Fly By Night insurance company. I would strongly recomend a small time co. The large companies want large dollars.
 
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Thanks for all the advice. I am happy to get this info.
Look forward to Tucson. Arizona has got a lot to offer. I won't be bored.
:D:D:D