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How to get a six-pack (abs)?

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NetCadet

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Some good info here guys, keep it comming.

I think the "love handles" or "spare tire" is an area that everyone has a little trouble with. Doing the twist (diagonal) crunches will help, however if your body fat % is too high, it will actually make things worse as you build muscle in that area and make it look even bigger.

Usually, the best thing you can do is continue to define your upper and lower abs with various crunches, and just hit your obliques with the twist crunches once in a while. This way, as your frontal abdominals grow, it will sort of fill in your midsection with muscle and make those areas appear less fatty.

Unfortunately, abaez, it sounds like you're in the same boat I was in. I lost a monumental amount of weight a couple years ago, and I was left with a lot of lose skin and fat deposits around the sides and even the front of my abdomen. I hated this, and worked very hard to eliminate it by working my frontal abs as described above. While I did see much improvement over time, I simply now had too much "skin" for my body (which was previously more than 100 lbs bigger). So, I cheated and went under the knife - yep, that's how much it bothered me. Now I'm left with a couple big nasty scars and always wonder if I did the right thing - maybe I should have just stuck with the excersize and crossed my fingers....oh well, live and learn right?

As for variations of crunches, yes unfortunately they really are necessery for a complete and well-defined entire package. Standard crunches are great, make no mistake, they hit pretty much every ab group at least a little. However to full define your obliques, you will most likely need some twist-crunches of some kind, and to see your lower abs, probably some leg raises and such.

Good info on carbs above, BTW!!
 

glen

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You have muscles there already.
If you can't see them, you have fat in the way.
Diet.
There is no such thing as "spot" reduction besides lipo.
 

Linux23

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<< Following up on the carbs a little more:

Carbs are good for you. I know that will sound wrong based on the advice here, but it's true. Your body really does need carbs. It is also true however, that unburned carbs will turn into fat. The trick is to make sure that you don't take on more carbs than you can burn off, and the carbs do go into the total caloric intake for the day.

As was mentioned, simple carbs are instant energy, but they are also the most common form of instant fat. Drinking soda or beer is a sure-fire way to gain weight. If you didn't have any excess carbs in your system and worked out immediately after drinking a soda you might be fine, but very few of us don't have excess carbs.

Carbs are neccessary because the sugars help our brains work. Our brains prefer to function with decent glucose levels. On low/no-carb diets that stress protien, the body produces ketones which the brain isn't so happy with. And it's really hard on the liver as well.

So what to do about carb intake when you are trying to lose fat? One thing to be aware of is that the body will actually burn fat more or less efficiently at different exercise levels. Paradoxically, at a lower exercise intensity you burn a higher percentage of fat than carbohydrates. At a higher intensity, you burn a higher percentage of carbs, and at even higher you stop burning fat altogether and only burn carbs. So should you exercise at only low levels, say a mild jog? No. Because while you burn a higher percentage of fat, you are still burning a lower total number of calories. At the higher intensity level you will more calories and while the relative percentage of fat burned is lower, the total amount of fat burned is higher.

Read more.. And more.
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i disagree, while i was on the Atkins diet, i felt great. i actually felt smarter than i ever felt in my life while on that plan.

however, in the long run, that plan wasn't right for me.
 

RSI

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<---- Proud owner of effortless 6-pack. :D

(have a 6-pack and never had to do jack-sh*t to get it)

-RSI
 

abaez

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Unfortunately, abaez, it sounds like you're in the same boat I was in. I lost a monumental amount of weight a couple years ago, and I was left with a lot of lose skin and fat deposits around the sides and even the front of my abdomen. I hated this, and worked very hard to eliminate it by working my frontal abs as described above. While I did see much improvement over time, I simply now had too much "skin" for my body (which was previously more than 100 lbs bigger). So, I cheated and went under the knife - yep, that's how much it bothered me. Now I'm left with a couple big nasty scars and always wonder if I did the right thing - maybe I should have just stuck with the excersize and crossed my fingers....oh well, live and learn right?

As for variations of crunches, yes unfortunately they really are necessery for a complete and well-defined entire package. Standard crunches are great, make no mistake, they hit pretty much every ab group at least a little. However to full define your obliques, you will most likely need some twist-crunches of some kind, and to see your lower abs, probably some leg raises and such.

Good info on carbs above, BTW!!


Whoa I wouldn't get surgey, I've lost a hundred pounds but I don't have excess skin. My legs are toned very well because of the rollerblading, just my damn obliques piss me off. I read that if you stand up and put a bar across your shoulders behind your back and bend diagnal downwards towards your knee you focus on that area a bit more, I'm going to start to try that since situps are doing nothing for my love handles hehehe. I wouldn't mind if there was someone to love them but as for now I hate them.
 

audiophan

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<< Just get that thing i see on T.V that shocks your guts. Its guarantied >>



electro-burn anyone? im pretty sure getting constantly zapped by e- is not healthy
 

StageLeft

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Unless you are a very special circumstance (lost a lot of weight and have a lot of skin and crap hanging around) the only way to get this 6 pack is to lose weight. THe vast majority of whether you have one or not relies not ont he muscle levels there but your body fat. You think you're thin but still can't see them? Lose more weight; your body loves to store fat in that area the most. It's this way for most guys. If you don't want to lose any more bodyfat then just deal with having no abs unfortunately.
 

JEDI

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THX for all the replies!

Will try crunches at an incline.

Fat on your back? never knew it was possible!?!?

thought the rubber surface on the treadmill lessens the impack much more than running on dirt? or do different treadmills have different thinkness of the rubber surface?

oh, i started doing the eliptical machine. suppose no impact since my feet are constantly touching the machine. but my knees started hurting. a friend said that his hurt too but after a couple of weeks, it'll go away.

as for undergoing the knife, thought there was suppose to be only a half of inch scarring, if that? that's just the slit so to fit in the suction tube. And did u get an instant 6-pack after undergoing the knife (since no more fat)? or do you still have to work at it?
 

RSI

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<< Unless you are a very special circumstance (lost a lot of weight and have a lot of skin and crap hanging around) the only way to get this 6 pack is to lose weight. THe vast majority of whether you have one or not relies not ont he muscle levels there but your body fat. You think you're thin but still can't see them? Lose more weight; your body loves to store fat in that area the most. It's this way for most guys. If you don't want to lose any more bodyfat then just deal with having no abs unfortunately. >>

Gimme a break, I'm way way too skinny (6'1 and 142-147lbs, varies), and I have a nice 6-pack. I haven't been to the gym in weeks, and when I DID go, I rarely ever did any ab-exercises, just upper body usually.

Abs are not hard to get. If you don't have 'em, then you're just in way too bad shape - run, and do situps. If you do them regularly, hello 6-pack!

-RSI
 

RSI

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Dude, fux0ring up your body with butcher knives isn't how you get in shape. Better to just work at it and earn your damn 6-pack.

-RSI
 

alee25

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is it bad just to stop eating and do excercise to lose weight? Not the the extent of burning off excess muscle, but mabye for just a day or two. Isn't not eating bascially just the same as strict dieting?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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You may have trouble keeping them once you get them. A lot of it is genetic. I weigh 255 and have a 12% body fat count when I last checked. I dont have the six pack. I had to get to 7% and that is damn hard, and it didn't last. I was getting sick from what I had to do to be there. So I went back to what is for me more rational fat levels. At 5'11" and that weight, I look pretty good and can turn a girls head without the 6 pack. You might want to consider not worring so much about your loss of body fat, as increasing muscle mass. Just an idea.
 

SuperTool

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<< You may have trouble keeping them once you get them. A lot of it is genetic. I weigh 255 and have a 12% body fat count when I last checked. I dont have the six pack. I had to get to 7% and that is damn hard, and it didn't last. I was getting sick from what I had to do to be there. So I went back to what is for me more rational fat levels. At 5'11" and that weight, I look pretty good and can turn a girls head without the 6 pack. You might want to consider not worring so much about your loss of body fat, as increasing muscle mass. Just an idea. >>


That is true. I am kinda like that. 250lbs 6ft. But my bones are frikken huge. I mean my wrist is like 50% larger than average person, and I have an enormous head. bigger than size 8. I guess I am just messed up like that. Anyways, I thought it was because I sit in front of TV all day. But I tried sitting in front of my computer all day instead, and it didn't help. :)
 

bootymac

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I made my own homemade Ab Roller! I just took some dumbell, put the weights in the center and locked them in. Well, it works for mine at least :D
 

Flat

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Jan 18, 2001
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haha I have a nice 8-Pack, last measured 3% body fat oh yhea! (semi pro swimmer)
 

LordMaul

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Nov 16, 2000
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I'll add some advise as bad as some of the idiots who tell people bullsh1t in other weightlifting threads! Lessee...what can be at about the same caliber as those 'tards...

I know!!

Chop the gut off and put a plastic, molded six pack in it's place, glued on with Krazy Glue!

(sorry just some venting. This doesn't reflect MHO about the above posters, just other threads...like assholes telled guys to lifts 6 million pounds once or twice until they are half dead 'cause it "builds you up real fast and makes you big".)

Carry on...
 

myputer

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Feb 14, 2001
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Naturally, I don't have the willpower to do any of this, but I do know how, and knowing is about 1.2% of the battle.

LMAO!! I don't know why, but I am still laughing from that! Thank you;)

My husband is 31 years old and has had a six pack his entire life. He likes to tell people that he does a bunch of stuff to keep in shape, but he is lying. He does nothing and has the perfect body, he makes me sick......
 

Descartes

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Oct 10, 1999
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I'm almost 6'2" and cprobably around 194lbs. When I was younger I played tennis, and ran cross country, so I had what looked like an 8-pack. Now that I've been in the professional world working a sedentary job, I no longer have the opportunity (or energy) to play tennis, or run as much. I don't think I'm overweight, but I sure would like to lose at least 5-10lbs in my stomach region. I don't have love-handles, but my stomach isn't exactly flat anymore. I have a pretty good diet that consists of tons of vegetables, a lot of juice, fruits, chicken, and salmon at least 3x/week, but I'm not losing any weight. The last 3 times I've been to the doctor I weighed the same: 198lbs (I said 194 above because I weighed at the doc with my shoes, clothes, etc.).

I can't run because all the cross country when I was younger tore up my knees, and I have flat feet (hurts like hell after a while). What would be the best means to stay in shape, without running, to lose these 5-10 or so pounds? Rollerblading maybe?