How to fight off a dog

[BudAshes]

Umm no. 100% the dog owner's fault for not tying up his animal with invited guests on his property. I'm sure any court of law would have seen it this way too. Kudos to GuitarDaddy for helping out with a new guard dog. I'm sure it was a shitty situation for all involved.

Yeah legally I would say that's true. Now a days he could sue the shit out of them.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Yeah I'm shocked you paid for a new guard dog. That was like 25% your fault 75% owners fault.

Yeah it was kinda of hard to blame him, as his bass fishing buddy I was one of only a couple of people at the party that wasn't an employee and didn't know the routine of releasing the dog into the the lumber yard when the office closed for the day. And there was a working toilet in the office area it was just occupied, and he had no idea I would head out into the yard.

I realize that especially by todays strict attention to property liability that the owner was totally liable for allowing a situation where that could happen. But the facts where I had been around the business enough to know they used a guard dog in the yard at night, but in my mildy drunken state I wasn't thinking about any possible danger and was just looking for a quick place to take a piss because the bathroom was occupied and just ventured out the back door without checking with anybody.

 

[NetGuySC]

I Always use that swan move used at the end of the original Karate Kid

 

[bfdd]

Nebor, we might not be able to run faster, but we sure as fucking shit have better fast twitch muscle fiber and reaction times than dogs. A trained humans hand speed can well exceed that of a striking snake, try like 3 to 4 times faster.

 

[MrColin]

In my experience, the most helpful thing to know, at least for untrained dogs is:
In most cases they're probably defending their territory and you can back out.
Do not turn your back on them.
They will bite whatever object you offer when charging at you, ie a stick, bag, etc.
You might be able to scare them off with dominant body language.

For trained dogs (and empty hands) your best hope is to grab them while all their feet are not on the ground and killing them either with a blow/crushing grasp to the throat or breaking their spine and or crushing the rib cage in a leg lock. You'll probably get hurt.

For multiple trained dogs, you are going to get hurt. The comment earlier about the guy that curled up into a ball and grabbed the front feet might be your only hope.

It seems they would be pretty easy to impale if you have a sturdy stick of any kind.

 

[Lanyap]

stick a finger up its ass

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=1160138

 

[BudAshes]

Seriously this is why tools exist. Even with just a big stick you have the edge. Humans would be pretty helpless against most predators without tools.

 

[lowrider69]

Nebor, we might not be able to run faster, but we sure as fucking shit have better fast twitch muscle fiber and reaction times than dogs. A trained humans hand speed can well exceed that of a striking snake, try like 3 to 4 times faster.

That's good, stick a average moron inside a 5' x 5' room or other tight area with a aggravated Cobra or other venomous snake and see who comes out breathing.


Too many wannabe tough guys in this thread.

Stop watching karate flicks and put the bong down.

 

[sourceninja]

I was attacked by a dog walking home from school once. Every day it would bark and run and try to get me as I walked down the street. One day it got out and came charging. I'm not sure of the breed, but it was a medium sized dog, maybe 30-40 pounds.

I used my book bag to deflect and then kicked it in the face. That was enough and it took off.

 

[Hecubus28]

One of our neighbors from down the street had a Pit Bull that was pretty much neglected. It was always left outside and they were hardly ever home. It was always getting out of their yard and didn't seem aggressive, just really skittish.

The last time it got out I was in the front yard and lady who owned it came up to me and asked me if I saw it. I guess the dog felt I was a threat to her and attacked. It bit my arm so fast and hard I don't think I could have done really anything to stop it. It felt like someone hit my arm with a sledgehammer. She was able to get the dog off me and restrained though they had to put it down afterwards.

I think some people in this thread underestimate how hard and fast dogs can bite when they are really attacking.

 

[oynaz]

"How to Defend Yourself Against a Dog Attack

My name is Adam Katz. For [approximately] seven years, I owned a company called South Bay K-9 Academy. I currently own the web site: Dogproblems.com. And I am the author of the widely acclaimed book, "Secrets of a Professional Dog Trainer!"
"

The owner of a canine training school is hardly an unbiased source.


"Anyone who does not believe me can contact me, and we will outfit you with a padded suit and you can give it your best shot. "

That's stupid. Any effective technique for fighting off a trained dog will seriously injure the animal. It takes a very special kind of person to do that for demonstration purposes.

 

[sourceninja]

Like any other conflict, it's just about using what is at hand, excepting that it's going to hurt, and staying clam.

We are superior to dogs. We have tools on us that can be used to stop them. We just need to keep our wits and use them.

 

[skyking]

That's good, stick a average moron inside a 5' x 5' room or other tight area with a aggravated Cobra or other venomous snake and see who comes out breathing.


Too many wannabe tough guys in this thread.

Stop watching karate flicks and put the bong down.

No kidding. What this guy thinks is fast twitch muscle fiber is just practice practice practice and anticipation. We humans are physically inferior, it is the noggin that sets most of us apart.

I trained some dogs with arm sleeves and leggings. The speed is incredible, I got bit once by a shepherd that worked up above the sleeve before I could do shit, and I was ready for it.

 

[sourceninja]

No kidding. What this guy thinks is fast twitch muscle fiber is just practice practice practice and anticipation. We humans are physically inferior, it is the noggin that sets most of us apart.

I trained some dogs with arm sleeves and leggings. The speed is incredible, I got bit once by a shepherd that worked up above the sleeve before I could do shit, and I was ready for it.

If you didn't care about the safety of the dog, would it change your tactics?

I have cats that can tear you up really bad in seconds. Restraining them in the vet requires hawking gloves. But it only requires those gloves because we are not willing to break their necks.

 

[skyking]

If you didn't care about the safety of the dog, would it change your tactics?

I have cats that can tear you up really bad in seconds. Restraining them in the vet requires hawking gloves. But it only requires those gloves because we are not willing to break their necks.

use a tool to increase your speed, or get the dog's feet off the ground. Take a bite to do that, ouch. Off the ground, switch to a hind leg or tail with free hand and keep moving. Swing them into the ground or another object. Repeat. Game over.
Of course I'm 250 plus and think differently about an 80 pound dog than a smaller person would. What would work for me might be disaster for somebody else.

 

[Number1]

"How to Defend Yourself Against a Dog Attack

My name is Adam Katz. For [approximately] seven years, I owned a company called South Bay K-9 Academy. I currently own the web site: Dogproblems.com. And I am the author of the widely acclaimed book, "Secrets of a Professional Dog Trainer!"
"

The owner of a canine training school is hardly an unbiased source.


"Anyone who does not believe me can contact me, and we will outfit you with a padded suit and you can give it your best shot. "

That's stupid. Any effective technique for fighting off a trained dog will seriously injure the animal. It takes a very special kind of person to do that for demonstration purposes.

Obviously the professional dog trainer is not worried about the dog's safety.

What makes you such an authority on hand to hand dog combat?

 

[lowrider69]

use a tool to increase your speed, or get the dog's feet off the ground. Take a bite to do that, ouch. Off the ground, switch to a hind leg or tail with free hand and keep moving. Swing them into the ground or another object. Repeat. Game over.
Of course I'm 250 plus and think differently about an 80 pound dog than a smaller person would. What would work for me might be disaster for somebody else.

Doesn't matter if you're fat or skinny, if you don't see it coming and a dog nails you in a bad spot, gamer over. Some breeds easily push 180 lbs plus, 200 lbs is not rare. Obviously dogs can be stopped, but all the chest pumping in this thread is comical.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Shoot it?

 

[CZroe]

Wow, helluva story. Glad you survived, a shame the owner didn't have his shepherd inside or at least in a fenced in area.

You read it wrong. The dog was guarding the wood yard. Think: "junkyard for lumber"

Like dog-protected junkyards, these are usually enclosed. The dog was likely fenced in but he took the wrong door out right into the fenced in area with the dog. The dog was where he was supposed to be, the man was not. The dog understandably treated him as any other intruder and did what he was trained to do to intruders.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I've had and been around dogs my whole life, I have walked dogs my whole life, and I was never attacked. I was approached once by a aggressive dog that I felt might get a little nuts while walking my dogs. A small shot of pepper spray on the snout drove him away. In a few other instances I just stood my ground and there was no problem.

I'm waiting for the Jerry Springer crowd and the "just shoot 'em y'all, yuk, yuk" responses.

I have been attacked by a dog. I was just a kid and this guys St Bernard came running up and clamped down on my arm which I put up to defend myself. My Dad came running out of the house to chase it off thankfully. I had a big heavy coat on but it still pierced that and my arm.

I did nothing to antagonize that worthless mutt. It just fucking attacked me.

I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a dog that was being overly aggressive.

 

[Nebor]

I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a dog that was being overly aggressive.

That's really only a viable option if you're one of those nutjobs that carries a gun around every day.

 

[skyking]

Doesn't matter if you're fat or skinny, if you don't see it coming and a dog nails you in a bad spot, gamer over. Some breeds easily push 180 lbs plus, 200 lbs is not rare. Obviously dogs can be stopped, but all the chest pumping in this thread is comical.

Yeah, the dog that got me was about 95 pounds of really fast shepherd. My trick would have never worked on that dog. He REALLY liked protection training
Edit: it was just one tooth that went high over the sleeve. I had trained with him few times. When he hit the sleeve, it felt like getting smacked by a 2x4, it did not resemble any of the other dog's bites.

 

[JulesMaximus]

doesn't matter if you're fat or skinny, if you don't see it coming and a dog nails you in a bad spot, gamer over. Some breeds easily push 180 lbs plus, 200 lbs is not rare. Obviously dogs can be stopped, but all the chest pumping in this thread is comical.

shoot it!!!

 

[mattpegher]

The most logical technique that I have heard of for fighting any large agressive dog is to defend with your non-dominant arm then attempt to harm the dogs neck or chest. Without a weapon, even a small pocket knife, punching or grabbing the neck will not likely result in enough damage to get the dog to retreat. The grapple technigue offers the best likelyhood of a chance to punch or crush the throat.
If any sharp or blunt object can be had several stabs to the neck should allow a decent chance to puncture the trachea and possibly hit the jugular or carotid.
Mean while the dog is likely to try to thrash, so if you are armed with a knife, you should try to lift the dog up off its feet a bit.

 

[TheNinja]

Ya, I would assume that if it is just a pissed off neighborhood dog that is trying to show its dominance, you could try to kick it while it's coming in. Most of those dogs would probably give up when they realize you offer a good fight.
It it gets in close enough, offer it your weak arms and either strike its throat, eyes, nose, or try to get behind its head. You gotta rear naked choke that thing or attempt to gauge and rip its throat and eyes out.


A trained dog? You are probably screwed unless you get really lucky.

Also, I've never been bitten, but from what I understand, it's not simply the sharp teeth that cause damage, it is the sheer force in pounds per square inch, in which they can clamp down. Some can very likely break or crush smaller bones.