How to defend one's self from drive-by robbers? [serious]

[highland145]

lol

and

a New Zealand based company.

 

[madoka]

Adopt the stance of dominance and show them your visible abs. Problem solved.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Yep and why you need to carry a gun.

So you can get shot? That is a really bad suggestion. Guy points a gun at me and asks for my wallet and I'm giving him my wallet. My life isn't worth risking for a wallet or its contents and no way I'm getting into a shootout over a wallet either. And my wallet cost $450...

I did not read one reply to op. Is this actually a thing in America?

Not where I live.

 

[Six]

True story: I had a black van pull up next to me, and two people in all black stepped out. I took off running. They chased me. I ran to a cop car, and the cop slammed me onto the his car. Cuffs me. The two people came up from behind. Turns out, the two were undercover cops. Mistaken identity.

Had I defended myself, I would probably be in jail.

 

[Paladin3]

I carry, and drawing on an already drawn gun is almost always unwise. At that point you've already failed at situational awareness. Maybe you will get a chance to draw your weapon if the attackers attention and gunpoint move away from you. Better just to comply and try to be a good witness, unless you have no other choice.

The key is to be aware of your surroundings in the first place. Don't let anyone run or drive up on you without at least being ready to pull your weapon. Move away from the threat and create defensible space between you and them. I like to pocket carry in a hoodie or jacket in bad neighborhoods. You can have your pistol in hand and be ready to pull it or shoot through your pocket if you have to.

I got carjacked once in a drive-thru before I carried. I was being stupid and a guy with a knife was leaning inside my window before I even saw him. He caught me with my window rolled down, doors unlocked and car in park. I should have been watching my rear view mirrors, but I wasn't. Now I get really uncomfortable if someone moves into my blind spots either while I am driving or walking, so I will turn to look at them and let them know I am aware of their presence.

It kinda sucks having to always worry about personal or vehicle defensive space and who might be in it, but it becomes second nature after a while. Just remember to be polite to everyone because 99.9% of the people who walk into what we call our defensive space aren't planning on causing any trouble. It's not their fault if we choose to be hyper-vigilant just in case.

Remember that carrying a weapon makes you responsible to be polite, keep your ego in check, and walk away from potential trouble if you can.

 

[Humpy]

I slather myself in feces but I don't know what I'd do if approached by an armed robber. Maybe it's why I've never been robbed though.

 

[Sonikku]

Pull out your wallet and hand it to them submissively and while their attention is diverted towards the goods pull out your own fire arm and pop them.

Or you could just cooperate with them and as they speed away call the police on your cell and give them the car make/license plate.

 

[sdifox]

Get a Paramount Marauder you pleb.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marauder_(vehicle)

 

[Spacehead]

A common thing in Brazil is to carry "mug money" in a different pocket, with a 5 or 10 on the outside of a couple of singles. So if someone wants to rob you just toss down the money and walk the other way.

I was forced to "donate" to someone's "basketball team" in New York City a few years ago. That was also my conclusion! Carry a couple $1 bills, throw em and haul ass if the person doesn't have a gun.

I know a guy who works in downtown Los Angeles. He carries a throw away wallet just for that purpose.

Otherwise the "mug Money" option is probably the best idea.

[URL=https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/bought-some-prop-money-for-a-little-fun.2495771/]Bingo![/URL]

 

[highland145]

So you can get shot? That is a really bad suggestion. Guy points a gun at me and asks for my wallet and I'm giving him my wallet. My life isn't worth risking for a wallet or its contents and no way I'm getting into a shootout over a wallet either. And my wallet cost $450...

Yep and why you are missed "more regularly" in OT.

see Mayne's "I'm banned" thread.

Otherwise, hope you and yours are well. Merry New Year.

 

[Paladin3]

Pull out your wallet and hand it to them submissively and while their attention is diverted towards the goods pull out your own fire arm and pop them.

Or you could just cooperate with them and as they speed away call the police on your cell and give them the car make/license plate.

It could be argued that crimes such as muggings are more common in areas where there is the most gun control. When laws deprive the law-abiding of the ability to defend themselves, criminals are emboldened to rob even more by the knowledge that they will be the only armed party in the forced transaction.

Either way, it's a choice we each have to make regarding our own safety.

 

[highland145]

It could be argued that crimes such as muggings are more common in areas where there is the most gun control. When laws deprive the law-abiding of the ability to defend themselves, criminals are emboldened to rob even more by the knowledge that they will be the only armed party in the forced transaction.

Either way, it's a choice we each have to make regarding our own safety.

Like home invasions after Australia's restrictions.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I did not read one reply to op. Is this actually a thing in America?

Yep and why you are missed "more regularly" in OT.

see Mayne's "I'm banned" thread.

Otherwise, hope you and yours are well. Merry New Year.

RSW

Awe, I miss you too big guy.

:wub:

 

[zinfamous]

stop walking down the street with your face buried in your cell phone. Drive-by thief van is far less likely to assault you if you had a clue about what was going on around you.

 

[IEC]

This is what I use to defend myself against drive-by robbers:

Haha just kidding. I don't live in the hood anymore and I don't travel after dark much. I also keep myself aware of my surroundings while driving and make sure I have an "out" if possible. No trouble yet.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Yeah awareness of surroundings is a big key. Robbers, murderers etc go for the easier targets. Someone buried in their phone makes an easy target they can just sneak up to.

 

[Sonikku]

This thread strangely reminds me of the scene in super mario bros. when this seemingly nice old chick walks up to hopkins and out of no where pulls some kind of crazy gun on them asking for money.

 

[BD231]

https://youtu.be/DlbnPcmoq-E

Haha ^ If they're anything like these guys you give'em ur shit but, suppose you could book it an hope the lean cocaine drank and weed screws off their aim.

 

[BD231]

stop walking down the street with your face buried in your cell phone. Drive-by thief van is far less likely to assault you if you had a clue about what was going on around you.

If ur in a hood long enough to get your typical patterns down you're going to get robbed, snitchin is a style these days.

 

[Captante]

Unless you're looking for an extra few bucks, right?

Or maybe some crack?

 

[Darwin333]

They're coming right for us!
No but seriously, let's say in your state you have the right to defend your property - in the scenario I described wouldn't it be justified?


http://www.howtolaw.co/legally-defend-your-property-392240

Look up your states self-defense laws but I'm not aware of any state that will allow you to shoot a mugger after the mugging has taken place and the mugger is fleeing. If he is fleeing and still pointing a gun at you then you are justified but otherwise I damn sure wouldn't want to go in front of a jury for shooting someone when the prosecution can very easily argue that the danger/threat to my life was over. You have to reasonably fear for your life at the time you pull the trigger, if you don't even have your gun drawn when he starts to flee I would think it rather difficult to defend that as reasonable fear.

Regardless, even if you do prevail you will spend hundreds if not thousands of times more on attorney fees than you would have lost simply letting the mugger take your stuff.