Originally posted by: Newbian
Better then letting them copy all my good stuff....
That's a good way until you get your package back that was obviously opened but taped back together with tape that repeatedly says, "Inspected by Customs".
That's a good way until you get your package back that was obviously opened but taped back together with tape that repeatedly says, "Inspected by Customs".
Yeah, this was one important point to my original message. They probably will deny you access to the country if they ask for your password and you refuse. If you don't want them driving through your personal desktop and files, you need to have a decoy OS readily available but your personal OS and data drives encrypted or at least hidden. As others pointed out, we techies know lots of easy ways around this but its something that everyone needs to know about since the ruling earlier this year.
The scariest thing is they can do a sector-by-sector image of your drive for later detailed analysis by a technician who will know what he/she is doing. They say that they will destroy the image at a later time but who knows that it could not end up on an NSA petabyte data array. :frown: The NSA is a highly respected division in the government for their past work in WWII and they have a lot of clearance.
Now he knew if the customs agents ever saw the hard drive it?d be confiscated. The way your Daddy looked at it, that hard drive was your birthright. And he?d be damned if any slopeheads were gonna put their greasy yella hands on his boy?s birthright. So he hid it in the one place he knew he could hid something. His ass. Five long years, he wore this hard drive up his ass. Then when he died of dysentery, he gave me the hard drive. I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass for two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. And now, little man, I give the hard drive to you.
Newbian
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Originally posted by: forumguy
Originally posted by: Newbian
Better then letting them copy all my good stuff....
That's a good way until you get your package back that was obviously opened but taped back together with tape that repeatedly says, "Inspected by Customs".
And they will be all sticky to...
moshquerade
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If there were any easy backdoor access like that, it would defeat the purpose of the encryption.
I mean, the code and algorithms are fully public, you'd think some enterprising Russian would figure it out.
Capt Caveman
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Originally posted by: Newbian
Sorry but the patriot act > constitution.
Yup, I know that the 4th and 5th amendment rights do not apply at the border. This has always been the case way before any patriot act.
I case of the 4th, if it applied, how could customs open up a package that has no signs of any illegal activity? How could they force you to open up your suit case or inspect your car? If a cop pulled you over and you have nothing plainly visible that was illegal, you could simply state, "I do not give permission for search" and the cop would have to stop -- only works when you are inside the U.S.
That's nice. I went through once this summer, they asked me about 25 questions about why I was gone for 3 months, what I was doing, what was the nature of my trip, why I was taking history of art and architecture when my major is electrical engineering (seriously, ever heard of electives?), was I travelling by myself or with a group, how many people were in that group, how many groups were there. They opened my backpack, luggage, rooted around. Luckly didn't bother with the laptop.
The thing that bothers me most is they're looking for "abnormal behavior". I'm not the fastest talker, for some reason have to thing several seconds to get the words just in order. So then what if they were to ask "you seem nervous, what's up?" what am I going to say? And so I was nervous. Turned into a self fulfilling prophecy.
You are naive.
Don't really need it to be nice and powerful to be an SFTP server...any old computer will do. For lower power, one of those embedded dual core Atom motherboards would be perfect.
You've got the idea though.
This is why these searches are useless and simply an inconvenience to law abiding citizens, because the *really* bad guys like terrorists, which measures like this are supposed to help us catch, are simply going to run an SFTP server and SSH to get their *insert terrorist material here* back onto their laptop.
Why? Are you one of those people that thinks if you don't want them to search, that therefor you must have something to hide? Shame on you. People 200 years ago died so we could be free, and you're *this* careless with their blood. You don't deserve to live in America with an attitude like that.
And while we're at it, you're not hiding any drugs in your vagina are you? Wait you don't want me to search there? Why not, do you have something to hide? If you had nothing to hide you would have no reason for objecting.
Same idea, only difference is it's a laptop not a vagina. Both are our property. Nowadays, one is likely to be searched when crossing the border, the other is not. In the future? People with [uneducated] attitudes like yours will outnumber those who are educated; the government will see the opportunity to take more powers (it's for the war on drugs! really!), and it will be abused, just like in every other nation in history. Or wait, you don't remember that because you were asleep in history class. The idiocy of this generation greatly concerns me. "nope! no potential for abuse! lets just give the government control over every ounce of our lives! they won't abuse it, ever!"
irishScott
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Well said, well said. But it would have been better for the 1st, 2nd, and 5th replies by users "rivan", "SpunkyJones", and "bobsmith1492" who don't seem to get it.
moshquerade, I would be interested to see what your brother's initial thoughts are on this court ruling and his personal experiences with laptop searches. Please post when you get a chance!
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