How to break 3.8Ghz Phenom II 64-bit?

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Belmont

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douple post fail

I'll use this space to ask a question I previously had - If I were to upgrade to a DDR3 mobo (ie. Crosshair III) would I see improvements in my OC? or should I wait for the new AMD chipset to come out...the RD890 I believe...
 
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v8envy

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IDC already explained the problem. The electrons simply don't make it there "in time" when running 64 bit instructions at more than 3.8 ghz on your CPU. You will do better if you downgrade to a 32 bit OS, or you might luck out buying the new stepping of your CPU.

With your cooling and power you'd be looking at a well over 4 ghz OC (4.4 possibly) with an i7 or E8600. Sometimes there's a price to be paid for being a loyal fan, and for your application that price is maximum performance.
 

JACKDRUID

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3.8 Ghz is not enough...Mainly because I play EQ2 and it seems to be limited by my processor, yet at this clock I still lagg, but if I underclock my 5870s all the way my FPS doesn't budge. So I know its the CPU - I am also thining it is my mobo, since I built this computer right when the 955 came out I ordered the M4A79 Deluxe mobo (DDR2) so If I switched to the new Crosshair III or the newest M4 w/ DDR3 would that change anything?

try install a 32bit windows xp (clean install), dual boot into it, and run the game...might help w. squeezing more out of single core performance.
 

Belmont

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try install a 32bit windows xp (clean install), dual boot into it, and run the game...might help w. squeezing more out of single core performance.

lol, this brings up the story of last time I tried to dual boot, basically I corrupted both installs kernels and got stuck in the GRUB GUI...

before I try that I am going to remove windows 7 and revert back to server 2008...now would there be a diff if I used hyper-v to virtualize 32 bit xp compared to installing it on a seperate partition?
 

lopri

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Also, the guy in the blog says VPC 2007, VMWare/SUN products as alternative but that doesn't apply to gaming, I'm afraid.
 

JACKDRUID

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lol, this brings up the story of last time I tried to dual boot, basically I corrupted both installs kernels and got stuck in the GRUB GUI...

before I try that I am going to remove windows 7 and revert back to server 2008...now would there be a diff if I used hyper-v to virtualize 32 bit xp compared to installing it on a seperate partition?

big difference... virtualization doesn't virtualize dx well.

if you really want to see how virtualization fails at dx, keep windows 7 and install "windows xp compatibility mode".

i'm pretty sure u'll be fine w. dual boot.. ms software get along w each other much better.

for corrupted kernels, just copy the newest version (win7) kernal and it should work fine.
 
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big difference... virtualization doesn't virtualize dx well.

if you really want to see how virtualization fails at dx, keep windows 7 and install "windows xp compatibility mode".

i'm pretty sure u'll be fine w. dual boot.. ms software get along w each other much better.

for corrupted kernels, just copy the newest version (win7) kernal and it should work fine.

That's because they do it through remotedesktop connecting to 127.0.0.1. Only allowed one core, too.