How to bond 2 or 3 WANs into single link for doubled internet bandwidth ?!

salam2009

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Hey guys,
I have peplink balance 30 & netgear srx5308 routers with dual integrated NICs on my PC.
Is there any way possible to bond my 3 WANs that is taken from the same ISP with 2Mbit/s each into single connection for my own PC so the total will be 6 Mbit/s ??
I've heard about Sharedband but I need to know afew things before I try them out, so if anyone knows about them please let me know.
Your help would be greatly appreciated!
Salaam
 

theevilsharpie

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Is there any way possible to bond my 3 WANs that is taken from the same ISP with 2Mbit/s each into single connection for my own PC so the total will be 6 Mbit/s ??

If you and your ISP can agree on some type of link bonding protocol (e.g., MLPPP), then no. You can use a product like your Peplink to do basic load balancing among your connections, but a single flow won't ever exceed 2Mb/s.
 

JoeMcJoe

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I have used sharedband before.

My limiting factor was not the connection to my house but the connection to the DSLAM, I had 2 x 1.5 Mbps DSL lines, only ever topped out in the middle of the night.

The phone company over sells the DSL service, not enough bandwidth supplied to town.

Why do you have 2Mbps connections to you house, is your house far from the DSLAM?

I use MLPPP with pfsense and a local ISP, over the same phone lines. The best I can do, until the phone company stops over selling.
 

salam2009

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If you and your ISP can agree on some type of link bonding protocol (e.g., MLPPP), then no. You can use a product like your Peplink to do basic load balancing among your connections, but a single flow won't ever exceed 2Mb/s.
How about teaming 2 WANs using my supported NICs through netgear router since it has LACP protocol. I tried it on the peplink but the teamed connection lose its connectivity after couple of seconds! (netgear will be back for me soon).
 

theevilsharpie

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How about teaming 2 WANs using my supported NICs through netgear router since it has LACP protocol. I tried it on the peplink but the teamed connection lose its connectivity after couple of seconds! (netgear will be back for me soon).


Your ISP would also need to configure the link for LACP on their end.
 

salam2009

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I have used sharedband before.

My limiting factor was not the connection to my house but the connection to the DSLAM, I had 2 x 1.5 Mbps DSL lines, only ever topped out in the middle of the night.

The phone company over sells the DSL service, not enough bandwidth supplied to town.

Why do you have 2Mbps connections to you house, is your house far from the DSLAM?

I use MLPPP with pfsense and a local ISP, over the same phone lines. The best I can do, until the phone company stops over selling.
We don't use DSL. We use Ubiquiti NanoStation M2.
Can I ask you about Sharedband?
 

JoeMcJoe

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We don't use DSL. We use Ubiquiti NanoStation M2.
Can I ask you about Sharedband?

You need one router per WAN connection, they are combined, it works for the most part. For 3 connections it will cost you $75 per month.

Can you not yet a single 6Mbps connection from the one isp?
 

salam2009

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You need one router per WAN connection, they are combined, it works for the most part. For 3 connections it will cost you $75 per month.

Can you not yet a single 6Mbps connection from the one isp?
Well I can't, they don't offer more than 2Mbps, that's why I need to do the bonding.
As for Sharedband, can I ask you over yahoo! messenger? It would be much easier than dropping separated questions in here.
Too bad they don't have Live Chat Support.
 
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JoeMcJoe

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Sure, send me an email, I don't have Yahoo, I use google talk.

You can talk to the support, their sales/support is very knowledgeable.

I had two lines bonded with them, I used two WRT54G Linksys routers running their firmware. They give you a 'virtual' router with a static IP address, so you can forward traffic to your LAN. I used a web server with no problem.

If you need a single 6 Mbps stream, and you do really get 2 Mbps streams, you will get your full bandwidth over sharedband.

Netflix/Video/Torrent/Gaming/PS3 games all worked with no problem.
The additional delay was small.

See a review here: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25383297-Sharedband-Qwest-mini-Review

But make sure your ISP will sell you 3 connections, and that you will really see 3 x 2Mbps.

Tell them what you are doing, they might offer you a higher speed that they don't advertise. I use a localish ISP for MLPPP, they don't advertise this service, I had to ask them.
 
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salam2009

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Sure, send me an email, I don't have Yahoo, I use google talk.

You can talk to the support, their sales/support is very knowledgeable.

I had two lines bonded with them, I used two WRT54G Linksys routers running their firmware. They give you a 'virtual' router with a static IP address, so you can forward traffic to your LAN. I used a web server with no problem.

If you need a single 6 Mbps stream, and you do really get 2 Mbps streams, you will get your full bandwidth over sharedband.

Netflix/Video/Torrent/Gaming/PS3 games all worked with no problem.
The additional delay was small.

See a review here: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25383297-Sharedband-Qwest-mini-Review

But make sure your ISP will sell you 3 connections, and that you will really see 3 x 2Mbps.

Tell them what you are doing, they might offer you a higher speed that they don't advertise. I use a localish ISP for MLPPP, they don't advertise this service, I had to ask them.

I asked them over Contact page two days ago with no response yet!
Here's my account in case you wanted to help me over GTalk:
(I couldn't pm it to u since my posts haven't reached 25 yet!)
hancockiraqi@gmail.com
Talk to u soon buddy!

I've read that reverse proxy can do aggregation, never tried it though.
Well, I haven't heard about this. Thanks for sharing it!
 
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fyb3r

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Well I can't, they don't offer more than 2Mbps, that's why I need to do the bonding.
As for Sharedband, can I ask you over yahoo! messenger? It would be much easier than dropping separated questions in here.
Too bad they don't have Live Chat Support.

where abouts do you live?

I know in my area theres multiple providers offering 30+ for 50 a month.
 

salam2009

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I've read that reverse proxy can do aggregation, never tried it though.

As I understand it, the Sophos UTM Home Edition can be configured to use reverse proxy to aggregate multiple WAN connections.

http://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/sophos-utm-home-edition.aspx
How about reading this line:

The Sophos UTM Free Home Use firewall contains its own operating system and will overwrite all data on the computer during the installation process.
Therefore, a separate, dedicated computer is needed, which will change into a fully functional security appliance.

Thanks for trying though :)
where abouts do you live?

I know in my area theres multiple providers offering 30+ for 50 a month.
Well, I'm too away from where you think I live. I'm in IRAQ o_O
The max we can get is 4 Mbit/s for 100 a month!
 

JackMDS

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Bonding that actually combines the bandwidth into one cohesive stream is possible only if the ISP provide such a special service.

If you just want load balancing for more general bandwidth, any independent two connections plugged to a Dual WAN Router will do.

There is No way around it.


:cool:
 

Enigma102083

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How about reading this line:

The Sophos UTM Free Home Use firewall contains its own operating system and will overwrite all data on the computer during the installation process.
Therefore, a separate, dedicated computer is needed, which will change into a fully functional security appliance.

Thanks for trying though :)

Well, I'm too away from where you think I live. I'm in IRAQ o_O
The max we can get is 4 Mbit/s for 100 a month!

It can also be installed on a VM, so download virtualPC or VirtualBox install a second NIC in your machine. Play with UTM virtual machine; or piece together a box from spare parts. Sophos also sells an actual appliance but I'm not entirely sure which device they sell does aggregation.
 

Enigma102083

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So, I've been digging into it this morning. Turns out the UTM Home Edition doesn't do reverse proxy. It does simple round-robin. I was wrong.
 

salam2009

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Bonding that actually combines the bandwidth into one cohesive stream is possible only if the ISP provide such a special service.

If you just want load balancing for more general bandwidth, any independent two connections plugged to a Dual WAN Router will do.

There is No way around it.


:cool:
That's right! I think I'm gonna stay on load balancing since the bonding is much complicated than I thought.

So, I've been digging into it this morning. Turns out the UTM Home Edition doesn't do reverse proxy. It does simple round-robin. I was wrong.
Aha, good to know.
Thanks for your time & effort!
 

salam2009

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I finally settled it by downloading 3 files simultaneously, so my load balancing router (Peplink 30) would use the 2Mbit of each of the 3 WANs for every single file instead of getting 1 WAN speed if the download was a single file. As for bonding them together into a single link so 2Mb becomes 6Mb, since it needs to be done by your internet provider that should support MLPPP protocol & maybe he doesn't or he can't use it for some reason. In that case, you could subscribe to SharedBand Servers that can bond the lines for you & it's available to everyone but it requires a special version of Linksys or Netgear routers with a monthly fee (starting with $25 for 2 bonded lines with 250 GB of traffic each month) and each line needs a router. They're located in US & UK for now so your distance might affect the whole thing. However, you can try them to be sure especially they offer 30 day money back guarantee!

Here's their website for more:
http://sharedband.com/

And here's a review from one of their clients:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25383297-Sharedband-Qwest-mini-Review

Best of Luck!
Salaam