How to beat the right

Zebo

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A New Strategic Vision For The Left

Let's start with some good news -- which might make you sick, when you realize that Kerry, Lockhart, Shrum, Cahill and the rest of those wienies failed to understand this. Your average American voter is far more progressive than he votes. He is with us on the questions of universal health care, improving schools, restoring our manufacturing base, protecting American jobs, and protecting American wages and living standards. Gore learned this in 2000. When he stopped playing "Republican-lite" and started sounding populist New Deal Democratic themes, he started doing better.

Fancy that. People want Democrats to be Democrats.

There's even more good news. The track record of Democrats in creating broad-based "bottom up" prosperity is undeniable. Likewise, the track record of Republicans creating stagnant, slow growth, high-unemployment economies is similarly undeniable. The proof of that is a simple fact I discovered about a year ago. No Republican adminstration has ever left office with unemployment under five percent. Three Democratic adminstrations have since 1933. Democrats create robust "full employment" economies. Republicans don't -- including this adminstration. That isn't opinion. That is verifiable historical fact.

As I said in the "flagship" article for this site -- Defeat the Right in Three Minutes -- Republicans are "cheap-labor conservatives." They don't really like robust "full employment" economies. Too many opportunities for working people make them harder for the corporate lords to control. The Republican agenda is all about corporate serfdom -- and they are hard at work bringing it about. If you don't believe it, take a look at an interview with chief Republican strategist Grover Norquist. He says he wants "the McKinley era, without the protectionism."

Do most Americans want that agenda? Even nominally "conservative" Americans? Rush Limbaugh's flying monkies clearly want it. But are they a majority?

No, they aren't. That's the good news. The bad news is that no one in the Democratic Party's leadership seems to have a clue about how to "strip the bark off those bastards."

Well I do, even if they don't.

The winning strategy against the cheap-labor conservatives is so very simple it's ridiculous. EXPOSE THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE. The great weakness of being a cheap-labor conservative is that you have to hide it. You have to invent disingenuous rhetoric about "less government." See the Patriot Act, if you buy that crap. You have to turn all of the prosperity creating infrastructure of New Deal liberalism into "tyranny." Social Security and Medicare are "tyranny" but the Patriot Act isn't. You have to run on bogus "wedge issues" like "gay marriage." Yes sir. We have a net loss of jobs in this country for the first time since the Hoover adminstration, but the burning issue of the day is "gay marriage."

How about this line in a speech, Senator Kerry? "While they've got you all worked up over two gays committing themselves to a monogamous civil union -- like that's a bad thing -- they've bankrupted the government. What do you think is more important?" The way you win is by keeping people's eye on the ball. The response to EVERY wedge issue is the same. "They are distracting you with bullshit, while they pick your pocket." Which is exactly what they're doing.

Cheap-labor conservatives specialize in defining us, the way they want us defined. They specialize in framing the issues the way they want the issues framed. Here's a line I heard several times cross the lips of George W. Bush. "They want to empower the government. We want to empower individuals." Doesn't that sound good? Of course, he sets up a false dichotomy. It's either we empower government or we empower individuals. None of our present crop of Democratic strategists knows how to respond to that -- or apparently understands the need to destroy such images. Framing the issues like that wins -- in case you're wondering. It's why so many ordinary Americans buy into all of that 'less government' rhetoric.

The response is simple -- and needs to be made. Public schools empower people when they educate them. Public highways empower people, by making it easier for them to travel. Public infrastructure like dams and rural electrification empower people, by giving them access to electric powered technology from washing machines to the computer screen you're looking at. Fair trade policies empower people, by protecting their wages and living standards from competition with cheap-labor cesspools. Full employment empowers people, by giving them opportunities and bidding up wages. The legal infrastructure for labor unions empowers people to collectively bargain with giant corporations. Even corporations -- creations of the law -- empower people to create heavy industry like steel mills, railroads and oil companies that individual partners would never have the capital to create. [See, there are even conservative examples.] Laws, public infrastructure, public institutions, and even private institutions supported by a democratic government empower individuals. Suggesting otherwise is a lie. The very purpose of a democratic government is to empower individuals, and the New Deal did a damn good job of it.

But Dubya -- and the rest of the cheap-labor conservatives -- have no interest in "empowering individuals." They are interested in chaining you to the oars of corporate America. They want you broke, isolated, disorganized, distracted with "wedge issues," and utterly dependent on the corporate masters for your very survival. When Dubya talks about "empowering individuals," he isn't talking about you. He's talking about his "skull and bones" buddies. He wants to empower them, so they can enslave you. If you don't believe me, take some time to learn about "the McKinley era" also known as "the age of wage slavery."

The vast majority of Americans don't want to return to the McKinley era. That's all you need to know. If progressive candidates and progressive activists can succeed in demonstrating to the voting public what these cheap-labor conservatives have in mind for them, they will reject that agenda. The Republicans conceal their agenda. Dubya didn't run on the things he announced just today. He didn't run on "fixing" social Security. He barely mentioned it. He didn't run on a national sales tax. He didn't mention that one at all. We know what he ran on. Terror -- which as I write this two days after the election, is starting to look like exactly what we all knew it was. It is starting to look like a grand distraction from a domestic agenda he barely discussed at all.

Why didn't he discuss it? Think about it. He didn't discuss his plans for his second term domestic agenda BECAUSE HE WOULD LOSE HIS ASS IF HE DID. That means, by the way, he would lose by far more votes than he could ever hope to steal.

There's your strategy. Pin him down on his cheap-labor agenda -- and every other Republican, while you're at it.

Now let me show you in concrete terms how this works. Let me first of all say, I am gratified by many people who have visited this site -- including in particular those wonderful folks who I have made friends with at my forum. I am gratified to see the 200 or so blogs who have spread the "cheap-labor conservative" meme to the 150,000 people who have visited since the summer of 2003. Unfortunately, no political campaign has put it to work. They need to. Here's how you do it.

First of all, learn a lesson from the cheap-labor conservatives. They spend a lot of time doing something known as "opposition research." As George W. Bush said to John Kerry, "you can run, but you can't hide." Every cheap-labor conservative in Congress has record. He has bills he has sponsored. He has votes he has cast -- both in committee and on the floor. He has statements he has made, duly recorded in the Congressional Record. He has speeches, articles, op/ed pieces, fundraising letters, and a wealth of source material to verify his beliefs. For a year already, I mention Grover Norquist's goal of returning us to "the McKinley era." Norquist said that in an interview in The Nation two years ago. I make it my business to make sure everybody hears about it.

That's how you do it. That's how THEY do it. Think about the Republican "attack ads" you've seen. They find some obscure statement a Democrat made, or some obscure vote on some piece of legislation -- sometimes they find things that are decades old -- and they use those few facts to paint their opponent as exactly what they want him to be. They use his own record, just like I use an opposing parties own words and conduct against him. Nothing is more powerful. John Kerry had to answer Dubya's charge about "voting against weapons systems" or "voting to raise taxes." What did John Kerry present about Dubya's record.

Look at Republican advertising, and then look at Democratic advertising. Republican advertising is a hundred times more powerful. I recall a Democratic commercial I saw a month or so ago. There was an empty factory, and George W. Bush was heard talking up the economy. It didn't work. You know why? Two reasons. First, you had to be watching to get the impact. If you were listening in the other room, all you heard was Dubya talking up his economic record. Which brings me to the second problem. The ad made the viewer do too much work to get the irony. Irony has a very limited place in political advertising. You have to beat people over the head with a two by four.

Think about it. Some people watch TV. A lot of other people run the TV, without really watching it. People talk about television being "passive." You can just sit and be entertained. Even that is too much work for some people. They run the local news while they read the mail, balance their checkbook, watch the roast in the oven, read the note from the teacher, chew the fat with their girlfirend on the telephone, all while the TV plays in the background. Democratic ads are aimed at people watching. Republican ads are aimed at people who simply have the TV playing. Their ads are simple, high impact messages designed to be heard in the kitchen.

That's why a Democrats ads need to say simple, direct things like, "Tom Delay voted to privatize social security. He voted to for a national sales tax. When asked to describe his vision he said, 'I want to return to the McKinley era.'" Entirely too many Democratic political advertisers want to be cute. They want to be funny. They want to be intelligent. They forget that their target constituency is that working mother who got up a 5:00 in the morning, worked all day, and is busy in the kitchen while her children are fighting because it's past suppertime and they're hungry. She's got all the mental stimulation she can handle. She wants you to get to the fusking point -- assuming she's paying attention at all. Meanwhile, she hears Dubya on the TV -- playing in the next room -- touting his economic record. She can't see the empty factory, because she isn't in there watching. Then she hears someone say "John Kerry voted to raise taxes 793 times, voted to cut weapons systems 847 times, and now he says he's ready to protect you from terrorists."

Which message does she hear? She may not even realize that the first commercial was a commercial for John Kerry. She knows the second one wasn't. Is it any wonder she is a little confused when it comes time to vote as to just who exactly is on her side? If you are wondering how the Republicans create the images and impressions that show up in polls. If you're scratching your head at where people get these ideas, I just told you how they do it. This last year, the Bush administration's record was so bad, it cost them a hundred million dollars to make those cut-through-the-background-noise messages stick. But stick they did -- in part because John Kerry never countered them with cut-through-the-background-noise messages of his own.

As for the progressive future, "cheap labor" is a phrase our working mother will hear in the kitchen. She knows all about cheap labor. She lives it everyday. The voting records and public statements of cheap-labor conservatives can be melted down into short, high impact sentences -- that she will hear in the kitchen. All Democratic candidates have to do is dig up the material, boil it down to short sentences in hard hitting advertisements, and "strip the bark" off those cheap-labor bastards.

Let me share with you a remarkable outcome from this recent election. In Florida, George W. Bush won by 350,000 votes. On that same ballot was a ballot initiative to establish a state minimum wage, a dollar an hour higher than the federal minimum wage, and indexed to inflation. Not only did the measure pass, it passed with a 3,000,000 vote margin. That's a total 4.5 MILLIION votes for the measure out of 6 million cast on the issue. It passed with a million and a half votes more than John Kerry got -- which means an awful lot of Dubya's voters voted for it. Cheap-labor conservatives hate the minimum wage -- like the devil hates holy water. With support like that for a staple Democratic issue, don't tell me that Democrats can't win, and win big.

And don't tell me that John Kerry's loss wasn't his own god damn fault.
http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/

More there on touch screen voting too. He debunks it.
 

cwjerome

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The last paragraph says a lot. Despite what the propaganda tells us, many Republicans are moderate and reasonable. They can agree and compromise with many pet issues of the Left. In fact, when it comes to pure issues there's a lot of middle ground. What those voters were saying in Florida is, "We are balanced people (by voting for the ISSUE of minimum wage), but we dislike Kerry because of the Democratic Party baggage."

It's the same thing I have been saying.... the Dems will not capture the mainstream with issues, it has to be a structural change that convinces people they are not the Left-Wing quacks who belittle religion and disparage their intelligence. Yes, Democrats can win, and win big. The problem they have is reaching out and connecting with the moderates.
 

Vic

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Bread and circuses.

Dems don't need to worry too much. When things get bad enough, the people will eventually come running back to them. They always have. If 4 years from now, GW and the Pub-dominated Congress hasn't fixed the economy for the common people and won the war, the Dems will win a true landslide.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Snagle
Zebo, you sir should get involved with a campaign in 2006. Please. The dems need more people who think like you.

EDIT: damn im dumb, i thought you just wrote that off the top of your head, now i see conceptualguerilla.com

I did'nt write that... :eek:
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
The last paragraph says a lot. Despite what the propaganda tells us, many Republicans are moderate and reasonable. They can agree and compromise with many pet issues of the Left. In fact, when it comes to pure issues there's a lot of middle ground. What those voters were saying in Florida is, "We are balanced people (by voting for the ISSUE of minimum wage), but we dislike Kerry because of the Democratic Party baggage."

It's the same thing I have been saying.... the Dems will not capture the mainstream with issues, it has to be a structural change that convinces people they are not the Left-Wing quacks who belittle religion and disparage their intelligence. Yes, Democrats can win, and win big. The problem they have is reaching out and connecting with the moderates.

Just curious, where are these examples of any major democratic candidate "belittle religion and disparage their intelligence" of repubs? Only thing close to disparaging Kerry said about Bush and his compatriots, "off the record" mind you, was, something to the effect of "they are most corrupt people he's ever seen in washington". Plus Kerry and Edwards both are active chruch goers.

BTW the so-called "Democratic Party baggage." is created by the hate campaign you witnessed this fall and the likes of Rush limbaugh. The author above even talks about it. It's lies and myth.
 

gutharius

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
The last paragraph says a lot. Despite what the propaganda tells us, many Republicans are moderate and reasonable. They can agree and compromise with many pet issues of the Left. In fact, when it comes to pure issues there's a lot of middle ground. What those voters were saying in Florida is, "We are balanced people (by voting for the ISSUE of minimum wage), but we dislike Kerry because of the Democratic Party baggage."

It's the same thing I have been saying.... the Dems will not capture the mainstream with issues, it has to be a structural change that convinces people they are not the Left-Wing quacks who belittle religion and disparage their intelligence. Yes, Democrats can win, and win big. The problem they have is reaching out and connecting with the moderates.

Ditto. Stop trying to be something they are not i.e. Republican. You can't catch a running rabbit if you are always looking at his ass trying to follow where he is going.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
The last paragraph says a lot. Despite what the propaganda tells us, many Republicans are moderate and reasonable. They can agree and compromise with many pet issues of the Left. In fact, when it comes to pure issues there's a lot of middle ground. What those voters were saying in Florida is, "We are balanced people (by voting for the ISSUE of minimum wage), but we dislike Kerry because of the Democratic Party baggage."

It's the same thing I have been saying.... the Dems will not capture the mainstream with issues, it has to be a structural change that convinces people they are not the Left-Wing quacks who belittle religion and disparage their intelligence. Yes, Democrats can win, and win big. The problem they have is reaching out and connecting with the moderates.
I think 55 million votes shows that there are a lot of moderate Dems out there. Just 3 million less than the Pubs right now, and that can be fixed.

The real issue is that the Dems have let themselves become a bunch of wimps. For example, in the 3rd debate, when pressed to a question he couldn't answer, Bush said about Kerry (paraphrasing, I'm not going to to google the actual transcript, you may do so), "Look at this man, he's a... liberal." Kerry, to my surprise, said nothing in response to this insult and evasion. What Kerry should have done was taken the offensive, defended his honor, slammed Bush for not answering the question, called Bush a radical... anything. A real statesman would have risen up in righteous dignity and trounced Bush. But Kerry did nothing.

Look at the Pubs right now, picking on and harassing the Dems after their narrow victory, calling it a landslide, making up stats and figures, etc. Basically doing anything they can to demotralize them further and make them even wimpier. And they can't defend themselves except to make themselves sound more weak. The only reason I'm saying anything nice about them is because I have always had a weakness in standing up for the underdog, I was always the one to pull the bully off the little nerdy kid in the playground.
But I'm not altruistic. Whether you like the Dems or not, our country needs at least 2 opposing parties in order to maintain some semblence of freedom. If either one ever took over completely, our country would collapse into tyranny of the worst sort.
So c'mon, Dems... be men again. Whether we like you or not, we need you. Stand up for yourselves. Not for needless issues that don't affect the common person (like whether gays can marry or not). But for freedom, and a good job, and food on the table. This is your legacy, of Wilson, of FDR, of Kennedy. Make it happen.
 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: Zebo
A New Strategic Vision For The Left

Your average American voter is far more progressive than he votes. He is with us on the questions of universal health care, improving schools, restoring our manufacturing base, protecting American jobs, and protecting American wages and living standards.

Well, um, duh! Heck, I'm for universal healthcare - and why not a massive expansion of Social Security? Why do you have to be old to retire? I want to retire at 25, when I've got plenty of time to enjoy it. So I'm for universal healthcare, free Ferrari's for everyone (unless you'd prefer a Porsche), and all sorts of other gov't handouts. Trouble is, here in what the average voter calls the "Real World", we can't afford all of the progressive "freebies" the Democrats have been promising. That's why the average voter doesn't vote as progressive as the author would like. Even children know you can't have every toy you want at Christmas time.
 

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Originally posted by: Zebo

Just curious, where are these examples of any major democratic candidate "belittle religion and disparage their intelligence" of repubs? Only thing close to disparaging Kerry said about Bush and his compatriots, "off the record" mind you, was, something to the effect of "they are most corrupt people he's ever seen in washington". Plus Kerry and Edwards both are active chruch goers.

BTW the so-called "Democratic Party baggage." is created by the hate campaign you witnessed this fall and the likes of Rush limbaugh. The author above even talks about it. It's lies and myth.

Sometimes when you don't talk about religion it is seen as the fact that you are not religious. And yes general populous democrats did disparage the intelligence of republicans -- whether a majority did or didn't is irrelevant, the fact it did happen is relevant. Even Gore did this, non verbally mind you, in the debates with Bush with his sneering and scoffs at Bush's answers when questioned.
 

cwjerome

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Zebo, I didn't say any major Democratic candidates belittle religion and disparage the intelligence, etc.... I have been saying for some time that the left-wing bomb throwers -like many here at P&N- DO those things. They are the arrogant elite minority that's ruining things for the Dems. Get it?

LOL, hate campaign? It can't be the people who I'm talking about who maliciously trash millions of Americans and their beliefs.... no, it's the evil Republican conspiracy.

Lost I tell you, lost......
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: Zebo
A New Strategic Vision For The Left

Your average American voter is far more progressive than he votes. He is with us on the questions of universal health care, improving schools, restoring our manufacturing base, protecting American jobs, and protecting American wages and living standards.

Well, um, duh! Heck, I'm for universal healthcare - and why not a massive expansion of Social Security? Why do you have to be old to retire? I want to retire at 25, when I've got plenty of time to enjoy it. So I'm for universal healthcare, free Ferrari's for everyone (unless you'd prefer a Porsche), and all sorts of other gov't handouts. Trouble is, here in what the average voter calls the "Real World", we can't afford all of the progressive "freebies" the Democrats have been promising. That's why the average voter doesn't vote as progressive as the author would like. Even children know you can't have every toy you want at Christmas time.


Very little of the tax dollars we pay ever comes back to us. Both AFDC and foodstamps is less than 1% of the federal budget. We can afford some of those things with ease, we just are prioitizing so you see nothing for your money. For example, Ireland has much lower taxes than we do and see some of those progressive benefits.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Mursilis
Well, um, duh! Heck, I'm for universal healthcare - and why not a massive expansion of Social Security? Why do you have to be old to retire? I want to retire at 25, when I've got plenty of time to enjoy it. So I'm for universal healthcare, free Ferrari's for everyone (unless you'd prefer a Porsche), and all sorts of other gov't handouts. Trouble is, here in what the average voter calls the "Real World", we can't afford all of the progressive "freebies" the Democrats have been promising. That's why the average voter doesn't vote as progressive as the author would like. Even children know you can't have every toy you want at Christmas time.
Hey, I'm for universal healthcare and a free Porsche if my taxes don't go up. Sign me up!
But of course we both know that isn't the "Real World". But the "average voter" doesn't understand the "Real World" because, if they did, they would see that Bush has been cutting taxes and raising spending at the same time. And yet they embrace that. "Deficit? What deficit? I just want to have my cake and eat it too," said the average voter.
There is no difference. Kerry didn't have to say he would raise taxes on the upper incomes, he just did that to placate voters who would have voted for him anyway. A major mistake. He should have gone the Bush way, and told them they could whatever they wanted for free. Hell, he should have gone whole hog and promised that every American who makes less than $50k/yr. wouldn't even have to pay a taxes, instead of preaching the need to be responsible and balance the budget. Would have won in a landslide. And with deficits like we've been having under Bush, what would it matter?

American politics suck because there are only 2 parties, but would suck much worse if there were only 1.
 

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And don't tell me that John Kerry's loss wasn't his own god damn fault. Maybe it was intentional, to keep a real democrat with a chance of winning from getting the position.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: cwjerome
The last paragraph says a lot. Despite what the propaganda tells us, many Republicans are moderate and reasonable. They can agree and compromise with many pet issues of the Left. In fact, when it comes to pure issues there's a lot of middle ground. What those voters were saying in Florida is, "We are balanced people (by voting for the ISSUE of minimum wage), but we dislike Kerry because of the Democratic Party baggage."

It's the same thing I have been saying.... the Dems will not capture the mainstream with issues, it has to be a structural change that convinces people they are not the Left-Wing quacks who belittle religion and disparage their intelligence. Yes, Democrats can win, and win big. The problem they have is reaching out and connecting with the moderates.
I think 55 million votes shows that there are a lot of moderate Dems out there. Just 3 million less than the Pubs right now, and that can be fixed.

The real issue is that the Dems have let themselves become a bunch of wimps. For example, in the 3rd debate, when pressed to a question he couldn't answer, Bush said about Kerry (paraphrasing, I'm not going to to google the actual transcript, you may do so), "Look at this man, he's a... liberal." Kerry, to my surprise, said nothing in response to this insult and evasion. What Kerry should have done was taken the offensive, defended his honor, slammed Bush for not answering the question, called Bush a radical... anything. A real statesman would have risen up in righteous dignity and trounced Bush. But Kerry did nothing.

Look at the Pubs right now, picking on and harassing the Dems after their narrow victory, calling it a landslide, making up stats and figures, etc. Basically doing anything they can to demotralize them further and make them even wimpier. And they can't defend themselves except to make themselves sound more weak. The only reason I'm saying anything nice about them is because I have always had a weakness in standing up for the underdog, I was always the one to pull the bully off the little nerdy kid in the playground.
But I'm not altruistic. Whether you like the Dems or not, our country needs at least 2 opposing parties in order to maintain some semblence of freedom. If either one ever took over completely, our country would collapse into tyranny of the worst sort.
So c'mon, Dems... be men again. Whether we like you or not, we need you. Stand up for yourselves. Not for needless issues that don't affect the common person (like whether gays can marry or not). But for freedom, and a good job, and food on the table. This is your legacy, of Wilson, of FDR, of Kennedy. Make it happen.

Yup thats exactly what the CGs saying. They need to take a stand and defend thier positions, and not play right-light.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
And don't tell me that John Kerry's loss wasn't his own god damn fault. Maybe it was intentional, to keep a real democrat with a chance of winning from getting the position.

Youve noticed that before:) "I'd rather have the real thing" comments are in the back of my mind.
 

cwjerome

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It's your world man... do what ya like.

It's just my little ol' perspective anyway. GL