waggy
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- Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: alkemyst
You just got yourself lumped into the morning discussion of "Glad we didn't hire this psycho" expect your email to be name-edited and circulated to a few of the interviewer's friends.
Your email also hints at a potential lawsuit over discrimination because of eating style, everyone is looking to sue when things don't go their way nowadays, so if that company is large and has a legal department, your name is now well known to them.
Never EVER follow up an interview with a flaming or 'why not me' email. Simply say thanks for the opportunity and I hope I am in consideration for future openings....
Yep,
My girlfriend was about to slap me for sending that email out... She thought that I was joking...I know that it hinted at me suing them for discrimination - I did that on purpose.. I'm not going to sue (it would be an insanely pointless endeavor) but I thought that the idea was absurdly funny (gettting passed over for a job because they wanted vegans and not meat eaters). I doubt that I'll get a reply and I know that it was not professional but, God, did that feel good...
while it may have made you feel better it was a really dumb thing to do.
word does get around about people. And threats of lawsuits will get yo blacklisted from th eindustry. Your name will be around the office managers and if they have friends that work in other places they will hear of it and so on. I worked in the IT devision for years. i was head of operations for the last 3 years. I did all the hireing and fireing. I have friends that work at other places and we would talk about people like you. I sure wouldnt want you working for me.
oh and those questions do suck. i never ask them myself if i can. but sometimes there is nothing else to ask.
i have had some good answeres though!
when i asked how would you move mt fuji the best response was "well one of the most powerfull forces on earth has been trying for years and not been able to. so i wont bother trying. and anyway, the people that paid for a view fo mt fuji would probably sue me!" when asked what the force was he replied "the wind"
heh asked him a few other weird questions. finally he asked what all these had to with being a operator. i said nothing i just want to stall for time until lunch.
Isn't it better to get these interview questions, instead of insanely hard technical questions? At least this way there is a way to justify your answer, as oppose to just looking incompetent.
dfi
dfi
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: alkemyst
You just got yourself lumped into the morning discussion of "Glad we didn't hire this psycho" expect your email to be name-edited and circulated to a few of the interviewer's friends
Your email also hints at a potential lawsuit over discrimination because of eating style, everyone is looking to sue when things don't go their way nowadays, so if that company is large and has a legal department, your name is now well known to them.
Never EVER follow up an interview with a flaming or 'why not me' email. Simply say thanks for the opportunity and I hope I am in consideration for future openings....
Yep,
My girlfriend was about to slap me for sending that email out... She thought that I was joking...I know that it hinted at me suing them for discrimination - I did that on purpose.. I'm not going to sue (it would be an insanely pointless endeavor) but I thought that the idea was absurdly funny (gettting passed over for a job because they wanted vegans and not meat eaters). I doubt that I'll get a reply and I know that it was not professional but, God, did that feel good...
while it may have made you feel better it was a really dumb thing to do.
word does get around about people. And threats of lawsuits will get yo blacklisted from th eindustry. Your name will be around the office managers and if they have friends that work in other places they will hear of it and so on. I worked in the IT devision for years. i was head of operations for the last 3 years. I did all the hireing and fireing. I have friends that work at other places and we would talk about people like you. I sure wouldnt want you working for me.
oh and those questions do suck. i never ask them myself if i can. but sometimes there is nothing else to ask.
i have had some good answeres though!
when i asked how would you move mt fuji the best response was "well one of the most powerfull forces on earth has been trying for years and not been able to. so i wont bother trying. and anyway, the people that paid for a view fo mt fuji would probably sue me!" when asked what the force was he replied "the wind"
heh asked him a few other weird questions. finally he asked what all these had to with being a operator. i said nothing i just want to stall for time until lunch.
Move Mt. Fuji eh? The first thing that camed to my mind was "how fast you want it moved?" If you wanted it moved ASAP, then you'll have to pay the high cost of placing nukes inside Fuji and having it "moved" all over Japan.
dfi
I woulda said I don't have a favorite section of the grocery store because I don't let emotions get in the way of what I need to do. For example, when I go to the grocery store I'm not going to my favorite section...I'm focused on what i need, I get it and get out for as cheap as possible. I mean, since I only go to the grocery store once a month, it's not like I like to be there, I'm going through, getting what I need and leaving.
If the interviewer wasn't too serious though I'd say something about the cosmetics isle or something.
If the interviewer wasn't too serious though I'd say something about the cosmetics isle or something.
SagaLore
Elite Member
- Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: alkemyst
You just got yourself lumped into the morning discussion of "Glad we didn't hire this psycho" expect your email to be name-edited and circulated to a few of the interviewer's friends
Your email also hints at a potential lawsuit over discrimination because of eating style, everyone is looking to sue when things don't go their way nowadays, so if that company is large and has a legal department, your name is now well known to them.
Never EVER follow up an interview with a flaming or 'why not me' email. Simply say thanks for the opportunity and I hope I am in consideration for future openings....
Yep,
My girlfriend was about to slap me for sending that email out... She thought that I was joking...I know that it hinted at me suing them for discrimination - I did that on purpose.. I'm not going to sue (it would be an insanely pointless endeavor) but I thought that the idea was absurdly funny (gettting passed over for a job because they wanted vegans and not meat eaters). I doubt that I'll get a reply and I know that it was not professional but, God, did that feel good...
If I were them I wouldn't have hired you either. :evil:
Everyone complaining about the lack of point to these questions are missing the damn point. Many of these types of questions have no real answer, and no one expects you to be armed with such statistical information in an interview. The point is simply how you think.
A great book for the origins of this type of interview is How would you move Mt. Fuji?. It even gives an example interview from a guy at MS who thought the question being asked was absurd. Needless to say he didn't make it to the second interview.
A great book for the origins of this type of interview is How would you move Mt. Fuji?. It even gives an example interview from a guy at MS who thought the question being asked was absurd. Needless to say he didn't make it to the second interview.
Hrm the manhole thing...
Here are some reasons I can think of...
1) A tubular design minimizes the cost of the surface area of materials required while maximizing space.
2) You can roll a round manhole cover. Those things are heavy.
3) Easier to put the manhole cover back on; other shapes require the cover to fit just right.
I've heard the "cover falling down the hole" reason but I've never liked it. The reason any cover doesn't fall in is because of the groove that supports the cover.
dfi
Here are some reasons I can think of...
1) A tubular design minimizes the cost of the surface area of materials required while maximizing space.
2) You can roll a round manhole cover. Those things are heavy.
3) Easier to put the manhole cover back on; other shapes require the cover to fit just right.
I've heard the "cover falling down the hole" reason but I've never liked it. The reason any cover doesn't fall in is because of the groove that supports the cover.
dfi
If the diameter of the manhole is about the same as the cover, or slightly larger, then the circular cover will fall into the manhole. Only if 1) the cover is larger than the manhole and is round, or 2) there is a circular groove that is smaller in diameter than the cover, can the cover not fall in.
Even if you have a square cover, where the diagonal is longer than a side of the square cover, if you make a square groove such that the diagonal of the groove is shorter than the length of the side of the square cover, then the square cover would not fall down a square manhole. Also, there is no reason that a manhole cover has to be the same shape as the manhole itself. If you had a tubular manhole with a square cover, where the side of the square cover is longer than the diameter of the manhole, your manhole cover would never fall in.
dfi
if its a trick question, then wouldn't the answer be 4? 4 x 1/4 = 1? That'd be my answer. Me = teh smartass
alkemyst
No Lifer
- Feb 13, 2001
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dfi you are beating a dead horse. Many here have attics with square covers that sit in a lipped opening...you get these out by positioning the square along the diagonal. not matter what the lip size is with a 'man' hole sized opening you will have a square or rectangle/triangle cover with the possibility to fall into or be dropped into a manhole....if a circle sits in the hole it will not be able to fall in in anyway. Sure you can build a huge square cover with a small square hole and large lip....but the circle can be made far smaller and with even the smallest lip, impossible to fall in.
These are 'properties' of the shapes themselves which in geometrical maths one is taught....however few remember they learned these things.
If you don't believe this make a cover and hole setup with heavy paper and verify yourself....any square you can create will have a lip extremely large and a cover size extremely large.
Bosses asking stupid questions:
Sure, I ask about qualifications, money, experience, etc. However, there's no way I have of knowing whether my interviewee will think my questions are "stupid" ones.
For example, a lot of our clients are high-powered law firms. One of my best tech guys tells me I freaked him out when I asked something about lawyers (he answered something like "deep down they're good people" or some other punch line to a lawyer joke). He's still upset about that question years later, and all I meant was to lead him into a discussion about our clients - I'd already decided to hire him, and I'd told him so. Lawyers get really uptight about who they allow into their systems, and I have to be careful who I send - I want to make sure I have a good fit.
Fortunately I've never had to endure the kind of kinky interview I've heard described, where a lot depends on how you answer those wacky questions. I'd probably lose patience pretty quickly. But hey, that's why I decided to be the boss.
Sure, I ask about qualifications, money, experience, etc. However, there's no way I have of knowing whether my interviewee will think my questions are "stupid" ones.
For example, a lot of our clients are high-powered law firms. One of my best tech guys tells me I freaked him out when I asked something about lawyers (he answered something like "deep down they're good people" or some other punch line to a lawyer joke). He's still upset about that question years later, and all I meant was to lead him into a discussion about our clients - I'd already decided to hire him, and I'd told him so. Lawyers get really uptight about who they allow into their systems, and I have to be careful who I send - I want to make sure I have a good fit.
Fortunately I've never had to endure the kind of kinky interview I've heard described, where a lot depends on how you answer those wacky questions. I'd probably lose patience pretty quickly. But hey, that's why I decided to be the boss.
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