how to access Westell 6100 from behind router?

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AthlonAlien

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Greetings,

The setup is Verizon DSL with a Westell 6100 modem/router combo acting as a modem only connected to a Linksys WRT54GS router. I am just trying to figure out how to access the modem now? A lot of cable modems will be accessible via the address of 192.168.100.1, but that isn't the case here. Does anyone have any suggestions...?

-Thanks
 
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jlazzaro

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I'm assuming since you have the westell acting as a modem only, you were able to login to the router portion and turn off dhcp? Somewhere in the configuration should be an option to set the modem ip address.

Have you tried ALL the common 192.168 defualts? 2.1, 1.1, 0.1, 0.100, etc, etc...
 
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AthlonAlien

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Yes, the Westell is acting like a modem only now (no DHCP). I have tried to set a static IP Address for the modem (192.168.2.254), but it didn't work. I have verified I was on the 192.168.2.x subnet. I tried 192.168.2.1, 1.1, 0.1, 100.1, 2.254, 1.254, 0.254... I didn't try 0.100 (or any x.100 addresses). I guess I could try them and see...
 
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AthlonAlien

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What do you mean when you say "Make sure the router is set to pass that ip range"?

Thanks for the link :)
 
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If it is working as a Modem than is No reason the access it.

Otherwise, put it directly on a PC far access purpose.

:D
 
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bruceb

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You would need to read the user manual .. I can't download it at this
time from Linksys ... and they have about 6 versions of that model router

Also as Jack has said, you really do not need to acces the modem ..
Plug it into a pc, do the setup information and login, save the config
and that is it.
 
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AthlonAlien

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Jack, that's not the answer I'm looking for :) I may not "need" to access the modem... but I would still "like" to. I like to look at the event logs and speed tranfers. You are correct about hooking a PC directly to it, but I am wanting to avoid doing that everytime.

bruceb, I have the manual and I've used several different versions of the router... I just don't understand what you are trying to say, when you said "Make sure the router is set to pass that ip range"? What are you talking about?!

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bruceb

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Unfortunately, the download portion of the Linksys site is not working. Hence I can not
download a user manual to read thru it. Basically, you need to be sure to forward the
ip of the modem in the router configuration.

As to your wanting to look at event logs and speed transfers, the router will provide
that information, based onn what is coming from the modem. You really do not need
to access the modem after it has been set up properly.

This link may explain it better and show what you need to do

http://www.rhinosoft.com/KnowledgeBase/kbarticle.asp?RefNo=1289&Prod=su
 
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AthlonAlien

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Forward the IP of the modem in the router configuration? What are you talking about? I don't know the modem's IP... that is the problem here?!?! And what would I forward the modem's IP to (and why)? I don't think we are talking about the same thing here. I have never had to forward any ports before, just to access the modem? I am only having this issue with a Westell 6100. Has anyone ever used this EXACT modem and router? And while I can get some of the info you mentioned from the router's logs, I cannot get everything I want. :D

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gpgofast

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Did you try 192.168.1.1????

I googled Westell 6100 and that IP came up as a default IP address for that device. If that is the case and the Linksys has the same IP address you won't be able to see the modem through the router. Hook up the modem directly to a PC with no router.

Go to "Start/Run" and type "cmd"-no quotes

Type "ipconfig" and see what your default gateway is now. This will tell you what your IP address of your modem is. How did you get your modem set up to NOT be a router if you don't know what the IP address is???? You need to ensure that you set up "DHCP" on your Linksys router and disable it on the modem.

On my network, I have changed my modems IP address to "192.168.0.1" my Linksys router is set to "192.168.1.1 and set to broadcast ONLY "G" and set to be my DHCP server, I had a second router set to "B" only with an IP address of 192.68.1.111 with DHCP disabled. I can browse to each device this way.
 
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AthlonAlien

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Yes, I have tried 192.168.1.1 along with a LOT of other addresses (as I stated above). I have tried manaully changing the IP Address of the modem and router (so they wouldn't be in conflict)... that didn't help. I am a computer technician and very familiar with networking and routers. This is 1 specific problem though, and nobody seems to be understanding the real question here. I can access the modem via it's IP when directly hooked to it (modem-->PC), but not from behind the Linksys router (modem-->Linksys router-->PC). I have DHCP disabled on the modem, so there are no conflicts there. I just received this info over at HardForum...

"If the Westell is operating in bridged mode, you cannot access the interface once a PPoE session has been initiated by your router. Up until your router initiates the connection however, you should be able to access it."

So you are saying once the Linksys has connected to Verizon via PPPOE, a PC on the inside of the Linksys network cannot access the modem any longer? This is by far the most logical answer I have received on this issue on multiple forums (even though I don't like the answer :D )

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gpgofast

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Now that makes perfect sense also to me. I didn't understand that you were running the modem "Bridged". I had to do that with my old Dlink router as it wouldn't allow the modem to perform the PPoE function properly. If you are not able to disable DHCP on the modem/router, disable it on your Linksys router. You don't want DHCP running on both devices. By bridging the modem, all it is doing is translating the DSL to IP, all of the "inteligence"is on the router as you have it connected currently. Currently I am running a Linksys WRT54G router with my Speedstream DSL modem handling the PPoE. Turn off PPoE on the router, put it BACK on the modem-take it out of bridge mode and I would bet you will be able to browse to the modem.
 
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AthlonAlien

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Originally posted by: gpgofast
Now that makes perfect sense also to me. I didn't understand that you were running the modem "Bridged". I had to do that with my old Dlink router as it wouldn't allow the modem to perform the PPoE function properly. If you are not able to disable DHCP on the modem/router, disable it on your Linksys router. You don't want DHCP running on both devices. By bridging the modem, all it is doing is translating the DSL to IP, all of the "inteligence"is on the router as you have it connected currently. Currently I am running a Linksys WRT54G router with my Speedstream DSL modem handling the PPoE. Turn off PPoE on the router, put it BACK on the modem-take it out of bridge mode and I would bet you will be able to browse to the modem.
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Right, I have understood that all along... the problem is, I want to access the Modem (at any given time) without having to swap it back to PPPoE or plug a PC directly into it. I have done this numerous times with other Modems... this issue is specific to Westell 6100 (or similiar) and certain types of PPPoE apparently?!
 
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Have you tried setting the modem in "half" bridged mode. This means the modem is doing authencation PPPoE or PPPoA but it is giving out the WAN (internet ip) to a single connected client such as a your router. This is different from what you have now (full bridging = router doing the authentication). Back when I had dsl I had my Zyxel modem configured this way. I know is called differrent by modem manufacturers. In my modem is wall called ZIPB (Viking chipset) and I've read that 2wire calls it DMZ+. Unfortunately I dont know your modem. Anyhow this way you may still access your modem while using it in bridge mode.
 
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