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How successful will Star Wars Episode 1 ***IN 3D!*** be?

Ep. 1 will be a 3D steaming pile as opposed to a 2D steaming pile.

The saga of turd-polishing continues...
 
I have no interest whatsoever, there seems to be much less buzz. Sure, it'll make money, but compared to every other SW theatrical release, it'll flop. I think it'll really show how much damage Lucas has done to the franchise over the last fifteen years by voiding all over it.
 
Is it going to feature only pod-racing for the runtime?

The original version of Pod-Racing had way too much shitty story wrapped around it. I mean, it seemed like other plots had more of a focus than Anakin's path toward defeating Sebulba.
 
Hoping it fails... but parents will probably take their kiddies to see it. Not sure how dedicated nerds are.
 
The movie was entertaining the first time I saw it. Sure, it's not a masterpiece by any sense of the word, but neither were the original 3...they were pure sci-fi camp. The new 3 tried to duplicate it and failed, but that doesn't mean they aren't entertaining (outside of whiney-ass Anikin and that dipshit jarjar).

I'll see it for Natalie Portman alone <3
 
You're right about the rest, to varying degrees, of course, but The Empire Strikes Back is a fine film, regardless of genre, and the prequels are pure crap, regardless of genre.
 
I hope that it will bomb. Not because the movie sucked, which it did so vigorously you think that it intended to do it, but because it wasn't filmed in 3D to begin with. Avatar was the only 3D movie that hasn't given me a headache while watching in 3D, primarily because it was filmed with the 3D aspect in mind, and therefore wasn't apt to fall into the "shitty" (my definition) 3D movie category of movies that have components that are in 3D whilst the rest of the movie remains in 2D (if that makes sense to those reading this...I'm quite inebriated right now). In any case, movies that are adapted to 3D tend to cause my quite a considerable discomfort to me and several of my friends due to the way that the 3D-ness is incorporated into the movie whilst movies filmed with 3D playback in mind are very appealing and quite pleasant to watch.

Even if the above wasn't a factor for the success for the movie, I'd hope that a re-release of Star Wars episode 1 would fail for it's absolute defilement of the series that began (or ended, whichever way you want to see it) so promisingly with episodes 4, 5, and 6!
 
this will bomb. random pod pieces, blaster bolts, and useless background coming at you will not "fix" this movie. 3D should be left to the movies that have 3D in mind from the beginning and not pirannah 3D either...
 
Since now everybody knows how much that movie sucks ass, I dont think there will be many people going back to see it.
BUT, the handful of hardcore fans which do love it, will go to see it a dozen times.

George will get rich off this. And I will cry a little more.
 
I thought I saw that it was being done largely for charity. Maybe I'm mistaken.

At any rate, I'm 41 and grew up during the originals. The prequels were steaming crap compared to Episodes 4 through 6. The only prequel that remotely competes is Episode III and I still put it below Episode 6.

I remember the excitement going to see Episode I on opening day. I took a girl with me and she actually fell asleep during the movie. I was so horrified at what I saw that I immediately called me brothers and told them I couldn't believe how terrible the movie was.
 
I gather absolutely zero enjoyment from watching a 3D movie. 3D treatment is either so overdone as to be overbearing, or so subtle as to beg the question, why bother in the first place?

Couple that with a travesty of a movie, and my hatred for George Lucas' money grabbing practices, and I obviously won't be going to see it.

But since 90% of Americans are idiots, I'd say it's going to do well at the box office.
 
$150 mill people are sheep they will go see it.

I can't stand teh 3d fad. i also sick of Lucas releasing the damn movies every few years with slight change. I haven't got the blu-ray either fuck that turd getting more money.
 
I would pay to watch the original 3 in theaters provided they would show the original cuts (maybe the special editions even). No way I'm going to see this crap tho.
 
$150 mill people are sheep they will go see it.

I can't stand teh 3d fad. i also sick of Lucas releasing the damn movies every few years with slight change. I haven't got the blu-ray either fuck that turd getting more money.

I'm in the same boat as you. I'm tired of Lucas' lies and constant re-releases of the movies for an obvious cash grab, so I refused to buy the blu-ray version and I didn't buy the last DVD edition either that had the original cuts of the movies.
 
The movie was entertaining the first time I saw it. Sure, it's not a masterpiece by any sense of the word, but neither were the original 3...they were pure sci-fi camp. The new 3 tried to duplicate it and failed, but that doesn't mean they aren't entertaining (outside of whiney-ass Anikin and that dipshit jarjar).

I'll see it for Natalie Portman alone <3

See, you can tell you're a 20-something. You weren't around when Star Wars came out in 1977. Back then, NOBODY had ever done anything remotely like that before. Lightsabers? WTF??? The Force? Whoa! R2-D2? COOL! Darth Vader? SCARY!!!!

Before Star Wars, sci-fi action movies were campy, half-serious things involving guys in Halloween masks intent on eating brains of girls in bikinis that washed up actors did to keep their career on life-support. Everyone takes for granted the path that Star Wars put us on, not to mention it's invention of the special effects that pepper the movies of the last 30+ years.

The reason the first 3 Star Wars films were great is they had defining and unique heroes, an iconic villain, and a set goal.

The new series didn't have any of that until the last movie, and even then it was mediocre. The new series spent most of its energy trying to justify itself as a tie-in to the old series, and the scripts suffered. Heck, I wasn't even sure who to root for in Episode 1 until 3/4 through the movie, and I didn't really care about the group of heroes by then to do much rooting. Episode 2 defined the heroes a bit better, but the dull script made it a sleeper. Episode 3 finally got the story-telling part right, but by that time we grew such a distaste for the characters that it was difficult to pull ourselves out of that funk.

Also, I feel the overuse of CGI kills any movie, and this is evident in the new series in particular. Models, puppets, and real sets have a "tactile" feel to them that make you feel like you're actually there. (They wanted to nominate Yoda for an Oscar for Best Actor (true story!) but there's a rule that the award can only go to a real person.) Hand-making something gives you time to think things through on how it works, what it's purpose it, and if it makes sense. CGI lets you throw anything you want in instantly, and often the quality suffers.

For example, I'm going to jump franchises over to Star Trek as an example of CGI degradation. Here's a clip from Star Trek III. Look at the beautiful use of models giving a sense of how enormous yet graceful the Enterprise is:

Stealing the Enterprise

In the new Star Trek movies, the Enterprise maneuvers around like a fighter, complete with shaky cam and lens flares...taking away from the drama and intensity of the scene.

Fire! Blam! Kapow!

And that, my friends, is not only why the new Star Wars series didn't catch on as well as the first series, but why sci-fi movies today in general are poor.
 
Speaking of which, since I got that blu-ray collectors pack of all the Star Wars movies for Xmas this year, I've been watching them slowly with the GF. We watched episodes 4-6 first. Just finished up episode 1. That movie is still just BAD. The plot motivations for many of the characters and crap that happens just seems so forced. I'm scratching my head over why some of the scenes even happened because they make no logical sense at all.

I basically just want to punch every actor in the face that is doing that movie. The whole thing is a steaming turd.
 
episode 1 was the best of the prequel trilogy IMO. there were some genuinely interesting camera moments, especially in the final lightsaber scene.

That said, how will they even do it? I mean, it wasn't shot in 3d. I'm sure the cgi parts will convert easily, but the live action parts simply cannot.
 
Prequel trilogy sucked anyway. Do yourself a favor and buy the 2008 original theatrical DVD trilogy boxset. Only in 4:3, but that's all Lucas will give us. Still better than 3D, or any of the "special edition" BS CGI editing he did to Ep 4-6. Will never buy the BS Blu-Rays.
 
Yeah thats what I have, the letterboxed original versions. When you zoom in to fill the screen it looks like shit, which really drives home the point they didnt clean up the audio or video.
The "enhanced" versions look a hell of a lot better, but Lucas keeps putting in shit that didnt belong. Sometimes even changing the very core of the story or character.

It was much more in character for Han to shoot Greedo first. It ruins Jabba to see him early when he has no place being there and he isnt taken seriously as a threat. The fucking 3D monsters running around in FRONT of Luke and Obi Wan while they get stopped by the storm troopers completely ruins the whole scene.

Seeing the ice monster spoils the fear. We didnt need to see all those people just milling around Cloud City. The turbo lift in the background is a minor thing, but it makes for too much busyness when you are supposed to be paying attention to the story.

And the new ending to Return of the Jedi makes me so fuckin mad I cant even discuss it.


THE MOVIES WERE FINE! They didnt need "fixing".
 
And the new ending to Return of the Jedi makes me so fuckin mad I cant even discuss it.


THE MOVIES WERE FINE! They didnt need "fixing".

The ending of ROTJ change didn't even make sense---if Yoda looks like he did when he died, Obi Wan looks like he did when he died, why did Anakin suddenly lose 30 years and get a full head of hair?
 
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