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How strict are you about keeping to your job description?

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Tsaico

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I started a new job about a year ago, and it has changed drastically from the initial position I applied for. It seems my reward for doing a good job is more work, and most of the new tasks have nothing to do with my position or my skill set.

I am the IT manager for my place. All the normal, like backups, user accounts, email maintanence, router, switches, etc. Then the facilities guy quit a while back. The HVAC system was put under IT. It is 412 thermostats that feed into three floors of that have their air circulated by a 350 ton water cooled system that pushes 1.2 million cfm. I thought it was strange since I know nothing about HVAC, but at least it is controlled by a central SQL server, a computer. The power usage was off the charts and they wanted someone to control it to bring down the bills.

After I got the building's power usage under control, i thought that was then end. Then because of the ticketing system I introduced to handle IT services requests, my boss thought it best to add building maintenance to my list of things to keep track of. I don't do the maintenance, but I need to coordinate the vendors/plumbers/housekeepers, etc to make sure they are handled.

Now that is getting dealt with more and more efficiently, I have now been asked to use my personal pick up to deliver the personal effects of a person who quit working here. I feel it should be the HR director or somone from that department at least. I have asked for a meeting with my boss, to talk about this constantly changing job duties. I did get a raise about 6 months into my stay here, but I am afraid this just justifies the extra work that are not in my normal realm of experience, nor anything I would want to develop in fields that I don't care about.

How strict are you guys about keeping to your job descriptions?

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Hired to do IT. Started getting assigned non-IT tasks. HVAC, plumbing, electrical, toilets, sinks, etc. Was given raise 6 months ago, but worried this is just encouraging more strange things
 
if you are managing all of IT, and they want you to be in charge of Facilities also, That's not a big deal. Tell them that you need staff to do the facilities stuff but that you will be more than happy to manage facilities also, for an increase in pay compensatory to the increase in responsibilities.

If they say no, then building should start having really wierd random heating / cooling problems (i.e. way too cold / way too hot / etc..).
 
If you have the time to do all those things, then what's the problem? If doing those other things means the IT stuff suffers, then I'd bring it up
 
Originally posted by: ebaycj
if you are managing all of IT, and they want you to be in charge of Facilities also, That's not a big deal. Tell them that you need staff to do the facilities stuff but that you will be more than happy to manage facilities also, for an increase in pay compensatory to the increase in responsibilities.

If they say no, then building should start having really wierd random heating / cooling problems (i.e. way too cold / way too hot / etc..).
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This.

 
Originally posted by: Kelemvor
If you have the time to do all those things, then what's the problem? If doing those other things means the IT stuff suffers, then I'd bring it up
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It's a big deal because it takes time away from the finer things in life such as neffing. You should absolutely be compensated accordingly.

A good manager has loads of free time.
 
You've let them walk all over you this much and now you're not going to get it to stop. Sorry pal, welcome to the "pass-the-buck" work environment.
 
I signed on as an internal auditor. Now I do 100% project management, and it looks like they have no interest in having me do any more auditing.

Our whole internal auditing department was co-opted into other projects. It pisses me off because I want to advance my accounting career but I'm not getting any accounting experience any more.

I was looking for another job before the recession hit, but now I just kind of stuck here.
 
Originally posted by: hiromizu
Originally posted by: Kelemvor
If you have the time to do all those things, then what's the problem? If doing those other things means the IT stuff suffers, then I'd bring it up
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It's a big deal because it takes time away from the finer things in life such as neffing. You should absolutely be compensated accordingly.

A good manager has loads of free time.
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Maybe you are thinking retail...but my managers/supervisors do not have 'loads' of free time ...
 
Not strict at all since I've never had a 'real' job. All are just filler/low-level shits, so I take what I can get. You'd think you couldn't get tired of surging 3 days in a row at work...
 
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
Originally posted by: hiromizu
Originally posted by: Kelemvor
If you have the time to do all those things, then what's the problem? If doing those other things means the IT stuff suffers, then I'd bring it up
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It's a big deal because it takes time away from the finer things in life such as neffing. You should absolutely be compensated accordingly.

A good manager has loads of free time.
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Maybe you are thinking retail...but my managers/supervisors do not have 'loads' of free time ...
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All of my superiors here work much harder than I do. I've never really understood the stereotype of lazy managers.

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What I used to do for my employment was vastly different than what most people here do, but since I often ended up as a foreman/barge captain, I was VERY strict about sticking to my job description. I was an Operating Engineer. I operated heavy equipment and cranes, as well as maintained equipment.

I did not do carpentry, concrete, ironworking, etc. ON THE PROJECT, (but might if it was part of the barge), nor did I tolerate any of those crafts doing my work...(trade unions FTW!)

That being said, as the foreman/barge captain, ANYTHING that needed to be done, regardless of the craft whose work it was, fell to me to make sure it got done...good delegation skillz are important in any job.
 
I think it's the norm in many jobs to have more crap dumped on you once they find out you're capable and competent to do not only your job but other peoples crap.

The problem is if you aren't compensated for the increased work. I have limited employment history but I can say I had to bitch and complain to get decent raises at my last job.

One of my supervisor?s main job duties was transferred to me with no mention of additional compensation. Luckily one of my other tasks was transitioned but other smaller ones filled in. I wasn't about to do the work my supervisor got paid for and stay at the same hourly wage.

So long story short you're doing the right thing about asking to discuss the new job tasks. IT and facilities shouldn't mix. That's not to talk bad about facilities but that is a whole other specific niche that should require additional staff or at least you should be compensated for handling it.
 
Originally posted by: ebaycj
if you are managing all of IT, and they want you to be in charge of Facilities also, That's not a big deal. Tell them that you need staff to do the facilities stuff but that you will be more than happy to manage facilities also, for an increase in pay compensatory to the increase in responsibilities.

If they say no, then building should start having really wierd random heating / cooling problems (i.e. way too cold / way too hot / etc..).
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It was really bad at first. Nearly all the IT projects were delayed. Now that it has calmed down a little, and I have been gaining knowledge it has gotten better. My main problems are:
1, I have no staff, it is just me to handle the 250 users, and 400 misc. devices and the 76,000 square feet of this place.
2. I have no experience in Facilities. This would include things like making sure the fire codes are followed, the building paint isn't chipping, the toilets are flushing right, the tile needs buffing, there is a crack in the desk, the carpets are dirty, the elevator hydraulics are not working right, the doorknob is loose, etc. Just finding the vendors to work with and coordinating when they can come in, as well as making sure they actually do it is a job unto itself.

I know what do with my house to keep it running and maintained, but just like a home network and a corporate network are different beasts, I am sure the same can be said for Facilities. I just worry that I a vendor is hosing me and I have no clue since I have no frame of reference.

But I never even thought of the change of title to reflect what I do. I will have to look into that and make the suggestion. I expect them to continue this, but at least I can then claim this experience on future resumes and get a few extra dimes to rub together...
 
Originally posted by: Tsaico
Originally posted by: ebaycj
if you are managing all of IT, and they want you to be in charge of Facilities also, That's not a big deal. Tell them that you need staff to do the facilities stuff but that you will be more than happy to manage facilities also, for an increase in pay compensatory to the increase in responsibilities.

If they say no, then building should start having really wierd random heating / cooling problems (i.e. way too cold / way too hot / etc..).
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It was really bad at first. Nearly all the IT projects were delayed. Now that it has calmed down a little, and I have been gaining knowledge it has gotten better. My main problems are:
1, I have no staff, it is just me to handle the 250 users, and 400 misc. devices and the 76,000 square feet of this place.
2. I have no experience in Facilities. This would include things like making sure the fire codes are followed, the building paint isn't chipping, the toilets are flushing right, the tile needs buffing, there is a crack in the desk, the carpets are dirty, the elevator hydraulics are not working right, the doorknob is loose, etc. Just finding the vendors to work with and coordinating when they can come in, as well as making sure they actually do it is a job unto itself.

I know what do with my house to keep it running and maintained, but just like a home network and a corporate network are different beasts, I am sure the same can be said for Facilities. I just worry that I a vendor is hosing me and I have no clue since I have no frame of reference.

But I never even thought of the change of title to reflect what I do. I will have to look into that and make the suggestion. I expect them to continue this, but at least I can then claim this experience on future resumes and get a few extra dimes to rub together...
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You need a staff.

 
I work in a small firm (14 employees total). If any one of us refused to do something because it wasn't in our specific job description we'd be fired. Everyone pitches in with extra stuff. My "extra stuff" is tech support, so I don't mind. I'd do that full time if I could.
 
I don't care how much my responsibilities change. I do care if they expect me to consistently work substantially more hours than what was expected of me when I was hired. They've got me for 40 hours a week, I don't care how they fill it.
 
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