How Silicon Valley broke democracy

[cytg111]

How much did russia spend again?

How much is bbc media bias, entertainment celebrity pundit etc worth?

What percentage of the official british government media was pro brexit.

Do tell, this is supposed to be fair right?

For one I think Russia used Wiki Leaks for one.
How much did Cambridge Analytica use?

 

[cytg111]

The bolded has been happening my entire life. Well before personal computers, the internet, social media, and russian trolls were invented. Well maybe not Russian trolls. That goes back to 1917. I'm not that old.

Fear mongering has always been an exploitable vector, thing is in our day and age it has gotten so effective it can wash out everything else.
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[Genx87]

Fear mongering has always been an exploitable vector, thing is in our day and age it has gotten so effective it can wash out everything else.
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I agree fear has always been effective. Not sure it has gotten more effective with social media. Two World Wars that killed a cumulative 150 million people were pushed by fear barely into the age of radio.

I agree with you it is a race to the bottom. But the race has been going on far longer than the age of the internet.

 

[Jhhnn]

You dont need a stand-in though. R's or D's could do the same right now! Just might have been doing it since.....
The life you are living right now is proof that information CAN be suppressed and Putins Russia is a glorious example of how a state can suppress ideas.. and at the same time weaponize freedom of speech against its own people. Freedom of speech is one of our finest privileges.. its also one of our biggest weaknesses... exploitable.
I like the romantic idea that true information wants to be free.. Its just not true in my world.. Not without oversight, you have to be accountable for the shit you spew in the face of other people.

If information wants to be free you don't have to pay to advertise it via facebook.

 

[glenn1]

If information wants to be free you don't have to pay to advertise it via facebook.

If your position is so persuasive to voters you don't need to try to ban others from advertising contrary positions on Facebook.

 

[1prophet]

That's diversionary bullshit. The part you're deliberately missing is the deception, the posing of foreign propagandists as Americans , Brits, or whatever. You're also glossing over the proven ability of algorithm driven facebook ads to target particular demographics in ways invisible to people outside the target group. It's one thing when selling diapers or blue jeans, entirely another when it comes to politics.

No it's not, this race to the bottom, dumbing down, and psychological manipulation of America by corporations using proven techniques like those pioneered by Edward Bernays, nephew of Sigmund Freud, in order to manipulate people using their emotions and selfish desires for consumerism and political purposes, should have been nipped in the bud a long time ago,

some Macedonian teenager exploiting the idiocracy that resulted from decades of brainwashing your country due to your government being in bed with corporations is nothing more than your chickens coming home to roost.

Liberals and Democrats used to be at the forefront warning about psychological manipulative techniques and the value of critical thinking, that is until they got in bed with Silicon Valley type billionaires and abandoned the middle America working class and started compromising the very ideals, rules and regulations they used to espouse.

 

[Jhhnn]

If your position is so persuasive to voters you don't need to try to ban others from advertising contrary positions on Facebook.

If your position is so persuasive to voters you don't need to try to ban others from advertising contrary positions on Facebook.

You keep ignoring the fact that lies can be crafted to have more emotional appeal than the truth. It's the essence of propaganda. It's a very old way of manipulating people. Johnathan Swift referenced it in 1710-

Besides, as the vilest Writer has his Readers, so the greatest Liar has his Believers; and it often happens, that if a Lie be believ’d only for an Hour, it has done its Work, and there is no farther occasion for it. Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it; so that when Men come to be undeceiv’d, it is too late; the Jest is over, and the Tale has had its Effect…

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/07/13/truth/

The advent of social media has served the purposes of malignant actors better than most people even begin to understand or care to admit. The rapidity & viral nature of successful attacks means they can be done & over before truth tellers even understand it's happening. Witness the 2016 election. Witness Brexit.

 

[Victorian Gray]

How much did russia spend again?

How much is bbc media bias, entertainment celebrity pundit etc worth?

What percentage of the official british government media was pro brexit.

Do tell, this is supposed to be fair right?

Have they given you that silver shirt yet?

 

[0roo0roo]

For one I think Russia used Wiki Leaks for one.
How much did Cambridge Analytica use?

I guess that makes Bradley Manning a foreign agent. How much did each campaign spend on data mining, and how much data mining was handed over for free by the woke capital of silicon valley to the left.

https://imgur.com/6gltshV

can you smell the hypocrisy.... foreign influence
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/twitter-bans-tommy-robinson-ukip-14729717


this isn't a corporate meeting, its a political rally

The standards are always double, anything they accuse others of, they are doing it 10 times over themselves.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I guess that makes Bradley Manning a foreign agent. How much did each campaign spend on data mining, and how much data mining was handed over for free by the woke capital of silicon valley to the left.

https://imgur.com/6gltshV

can you smell the hypocrisy.... foreign influence
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/twitter-bans-tommy-robinson-ukip-14729717


this isn't a corporate meeting, its a political rally

The standards are always double, anything they accuse others of, they are doing it 10 times over themselves.

Oh yeah, that fucking criminal nazi, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. Your kinda folks.

 

[Jhhnn]

Oh yeah, that fucking criminal nazi, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. Your kinda folks.

Huh-uhh! Facebook is the real Haters! They're the Fascists!