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Originally posted by: KevinH
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
i think he means pre-martial sex
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Oh, thanks for clearing that up!

Wait a minute...nope, it's not ok to stone your child to death for having pre-marital sex.
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not in US laws. Or in your intolerant mind. Capital punishment exists for carrying dope in Singapore. But of course, you Mr. Anti-Islam must have a problem with anything and everything that Islam says 🙂 Keep at it.
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As a "liberal", anti-war, anti-Bush person ...here's a big fat screw you to your justification for that fiendish act as littler more than moral relativism. If EVERYTHING in the world is morally relative, the US would still be a slave owning state and justify the blatant evil's of that by crying "it's how we do it". Screw you. This isn't Anti-Islam. I know tons of Muslims that would also give a big middle finger to you too you barbarian. Fvck you if you think saying it's how we do it can justify the ill treatment of another human being. Mod's...ban me for all I care, this turd can call me anti-Islam as much as he wants but I'm going to have my say. I wish nothing more than to pray for the free-will of his children.
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why dont you ask your Muslim friends what the Islamic Law for committing adultery/fornication is first... if they differ with me regarding the punishment as mandated by Islam, then I will accept that I am wrong. However, because the law exists and I choose to follow divine law is in no way extremist or fundamentalist.
 
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
i think he means pre-martial sex
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Oh, thanks for clearing that up!

Wait a minute...nope, it's not ok to stone your child to death for having pre-marital sex.
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not in US laws. Or in your intolerant mind. Capital punishment exists for carrying dope in Singapore. But of course, you Mr. Anti-Islam must have a problem with anything and everything that Islam says 🙂 Keep at it.
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Oh, great! Singapore has capital punishment for 'carrying dope'? Oh! Go right ahead and stone your child for having sex! :disgust:

It's very interesting that the people who want to stop child abuse are now 'intolerant' and 'ani-Islam'.

Damn barbarian.
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nef
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Why are all you Muslims defending Sultan? Are you all from Pakistan? Did he invite you here?
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I don't think it is that as much as the ridiculousness of it. Entner any thread where both post, and RabidMongoose begings yapping, and sultan also continues to counter....and it gets SOOOOO OLLLDDDD. On top ot it it turns WHATEVER thread was about to stupid accustations from both side. I mean seriously rabidmongoose knows the ridiculousness of a lot of his comments, and sultan ays the same thing. At the same time i don't think sultan would ever do that to his kids because he would have taught them smarter to engage in pre martial sex (then again i maybe one of those rare ppl who think its better to wiat 😛 i dunno 😉 )

but seriously, look at their exchanges...its stupid mud slinging that isn't worth the bandwith it consumes!
 
Originally posted by: magomago
Originally posted by: Aimster
Why are all you Muslims defending Sultan? Are you all from Pakistan? Did he invite you here?
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I don't think it is that as much as the ridiculousness of it. Entner any thread where both post, and RabidMongoose begings yapping, and sultan also continues to counter....and it gets SOOOOO OLLLDDDD. On top ot it it turns WHATEVER thread was about to stupid accustations from both side. I mean seriously rabidmongoose knows the ridiculousness of a lot of his comments, and sultan ays the same thing. At the same time i don't think sultan would ever do that to his kids because he would have taught them smarter to engage in pre martial sex (then again i maybe one of those rare ppl who think its better to wiat 😛 i dunno 😉 )

but seriously, look at their exchanges...its stupid mud slinging that isn't worth the bandwith it consumes!
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Maybe you should teach Sultan not to advocate child abuse and murder and then everything can be OK. Sorry, but I don't know about the 'ridiculousness' about child abuse and murder.
 
In my sig. He also stated it again in Forum Issues, much to the disgust of the people there.

Sultan: I calmly tried to explain to him that adultery/fornication is the second biggest sin in Islam (and not Murder as Aimster said) and the punishment for the above is stoning to death (or capital punishment if you like) / 100 whips. I also tried to explain to him that if my children were found guilty of either of the previous sins, I will have no problem carrying out the punishment.
 
no really, where do you draw the line of accepting different cultures and from condamning them from being different?
 
Originally posted by: Czar
no really, where do you draw the line of accepting different cultures and from condamning them from being different?
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I don't support child abuse and murder. Your argument is falling down the path of accepting Aztec human religious sacrifices. Do you find that an acceptable action?
 
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Czar
no really, where do you draw the line of accepting different cultures and from condamning them from being different?
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I don't support child abuse and murder. Your argument is falling down the path of accepting Aztec human religious sacrifices. Do you find that an acceptable action?
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is it for me or you to judge?
 
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Czar
no really, where do you draw the line of accepting different cultures and from condamning them from being different?
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I don't support child abuse and murder. Your argument is falling down the path of accepting Aztec human religious sacrifices. Do you find that an acceptable action?
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is it for me or you to judge?
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Sure it is. Protecting children and preventing barbarism is a good cause.

If this was something less murderous or less barbaric then you would have a good point. However, murder is murder. Obviously you disagree.

Just answer this question: Would you be against Aztec religious human sacrifices?
 
Originally posted by: Czar
So when is murder justified in your opinion?

About the aztecs, I would not support it no
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I'm not exactly sure where the line is drawn...however only having sex is usually not grounds for throwing rocks at soemone (itself a very barbaric punishment) until they die.

Do you think people should be killed with rocks for having sex?
 
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Czar
So when is murder justified in your opinion?

About the aztecs, I would not support it no
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I'm not exactly sure where the line is drawn...however only having sex is usually not grounds for throwing rocks at soemone (itself a very barbaric punishment) until they die.

Do you think people should be killed with rocks for having sex?
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that is extremely hard to draw the line somewhere, but if you are going to condamn anything like this then you must know where the line is, in your opinion ofcorse. Lets then take another look at this, do you think sex before marrage is something that people shouldnt do?


Nope, I dont think so
 
Originally posted by: Czar
that is extremely hard to draw the line somewhere, but if you are going to condamn anything like this then you must know where the line is, in your opinion ofcorse. Lets then take another look at this, do you think sex before marrage is something that people shouldnt do?
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You don't need to know the exact placement of the 'line'. You didn't need to know where the line was to say that Aztec religious human sacrifices was not something you could support. The murder of children is the same.

I honestly don't care if people do or do not want sex before marriage. All I know is that killing your children by stoning for having sex before marriage or for having an affair is a barbaric act.


Nope, I dont think so
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Good to know that you're on my side then.
 
You don't need to know the exact placement of the 'line'. You didn't need to know where the line was to say that Aztec religious human sacrifices was not something you could support. The murder of children is the same.

I honestly don't care if people do or do not want sex before marriage. All I know is that killing your children by stoning for having sex before marriage or for having an affair is a barbaric act.
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Now lets look at another group of people, those who do think sex before marrige is not acceptable, when they condamn and judge people who do, what do you think of them?

Good to know that you're on my side then.
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yes and no probably 😉
 
Originally posted by: Czar
Now lets look at another group of people, those who do think sex before marrige is not acceptable, when they condamn and judge people who do, what do you think of them?
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It depends. If they condemn and merely judge people in their own minds then I don't find that a very barbaric act.

As far as your question goes, are these people killing (stoning) people having pre-marital sex?

Good to know that you're on my side then.
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yes and no probably 😉[/quote]

How so? Explain your position. 😉

 
Christianity and all real religions are tools for the transcendence of mental illness. The real ones were propounded and operated by people who got free of that illness. To function properly the vision of the Knower is required and when that person dies the tool becomes a religion, a mechanically self replicating device devoid of real functionality. But because all the ingredients are there, even if their purpose is forgotten and invisible, some people who practice them accidentally open a door that takes them to another world. The important point here is that it is humanity that is sick, not the religion. What makes religion dangerous is that because it contains information that can open that door, extraordinary insanity must be applied to avoid that happening. To be religions and blind requires phenomenal hypocrisy and rationalization and the same skills developed there are easily transfered over to killing.
 
It depends. If they condemn and merely judge people in their own minds then I don't find that a very barbaric act.

As far as your question goes, are these people killing (stoning) people having pre-marital sex?
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But what about those who openly and vocaly judge and condamn people who have sex before marrage?

How so? Explain your position. 😉
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I support your moral thinking that it is bad from my perspective but I dont think they are bad people for doing so

 
Originally posted by: Czar
But what about those who openly and vocaly judge and condamn people who have sex before marrage?
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They can choose to do that if they wish.

However, advocating violence and murdering children is barbaric and is on a completely different scale.
 
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