How QAnon Conspiracy Is Moving Closer To Political Mainstream

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hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Look at this horse. This horse is amazing.
Once again, this brings to mind a Frank Zappa song. Only the clean part.

[FATHER RILEY B. JONES:]
This is the story 'bout Bald-Headed John

[FORMER EXECS:]
Dong work for Yuda, Dong, Dong

[FATHER RILEY B. JONES:]
He talks a lot 'n it's usually wrong

[FORMER EXECS:]
Dong work for Yuda, Dong, Dong

[FATHER RILEY B. JONES:]
He said Dong was Wong,
'N Wong was Kong
'N Dong work for Yuda,
N John was wrong

[FORMER EXECS:]
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
Dong work for Yuda
Dong, Dong
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
He said Dong was Wong
And Wong was Kong
And Dong was Gong
'N John was wrong
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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Looks like the Tea Party morphed into a more virulent hideous strain of political vector. Had to go there or die in the chamber of horrific experimental conservative breeding pools from whence they came.
 
Mar 11, 2004
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Looks like the Tea Party morphed into a more virulent hideous strain of political vector. Had to go there or die in the chamber of horrific experimental conservative breeding pools from whence they came.

Did it though? It was always a complete sham, full of conspiracy nutjobs and corrupt assholes willing to whore themselves out for pennies on the dollar.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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I think this is exactly what 'Muricans voted for. Enjoy your sky fairies and conspiracy theories. And fuck other people's feels, or something
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Its an ok experiment.
What you get in a liberal democracy that

1. heavily weighs the 1st.
2. refuses to educate its population properly
3. lets capitalistic corruption run rampant.

?

One third that believes in Alex Jones.

Can we end the experiment now?
 

FaaR

Golden Member
Dec 28, 2007
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It's 'Murican ya Damn commie.
:) To me, this smells an awful lot like chinese or the like through an online translator, honestly... Maybe machine speech to text dictation gone horribly wrong. Something along those lines.

Looks like the Tea Party morphed into a more virulent hideous strain of political vector. Had to go there or die in the chamber of horrific experimental conservative breeding pools from whence they came.
Self-radicalization tends to happen when bad ideas are left to themselves to rot and fester. Tea partyers always did radiate a general aura of low-brow willful ignorance/anti-culturalism and anti-intellectualism and outspoken racism, so no genuine surprise the same types of people would be appealed to by nonsense like QA.
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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I hate saying it, especially because I know I didn't like it when they were saying it about liberals for the last 40 years, but it's true: this country has a serious disease. What's worse is I dont know how we fix it because it's a free country and they are free to try to fuck it up as fast and as much as possible. The best I can come up with is let them finish fucking it up. Any attempt to fix even the slightest little thing just makes them madder. Like fucking livid.

IMO a decent leader who isn't afraid of going head-to-head intellectually with pretty much anyone out there, coupled with a communications platform that encourages reasoned debate, would be a start. Basic discussions like the need for a nuclear deterrent, surveillance, etc, need to be honestly had and heard by the masses.

People need to get used to the idea of a leader actually acting like one, who is willing to listen and respond honestly, who listens to the science behind whatever topic.

I think this is essential if one wishes to minimise the perpetual loop of society advancing and changing, and some of the populace feeling left behind because they don't understand how their society basically works.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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I hate saying it, especially because I know I didn't like it when they were saying it about liberals for the last 40 years, but it's true: this country has a serious disease. What's worse is I dont know how we fix it because it's a free country and they are free to try to fuck it up as fast and as much as possible. The best I can come up with is let them finish fucking it up. Any attempt to fix even the slightest little thing just makes them madder. Like fucking livid.
You gerrymander and votesuppress the fuck out of them till they are gone, you need to remove the dum dum as a tool for the rich.
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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You gerrymander and votesuppress the fuck out of them till they are gone, you need to remove the dum dum as a tool for the rich.
That is not an option. People are free to be fucking morons if they want to be. People are free to elect morons if they feel those morons represent them.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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That is not an option. People are free to be fucking morons if they want to be. People are free to elect morons if they feel those morons represent them.
That's the entire bases of democracy. If stupid people are the majority then stupid people get to make the rules. Your well informed and carefully thought out vote is negated by the village idiot.
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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The question I have is... if you ban the QAnon people from Twitter, aren't you reinforcing the "Big government doesn't want people to know the truth!" mindset in their heads?

Wouldn't it be better to post a "This link is total BS, and here's the reason why" type tag under these type of posts, instead of forcing them to go underground?
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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The question I have is... if you ban the QAnon people from Twitter, aren't you reinforcing the "Big government doesn't want people to know the truth!" mindset in their heads?

Wouldn't it be better to post a "This link is total BS, and here's the reason why" type tag under these type of posts, instead of forcing them to go underground?
I would prefer the warning label approach myself.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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That is not an option. People are free to be fucking morons if they want to be. People are free to elect morons if they feel those morons represent them.

Are they though? Free that is? Cause all I see is chains. You wouldnt go to the zoo either and open the chimp cages and go "Be free apes, go do what you wanna do, you free now" .. you would probably also move to intervene in a Jim Jones scenario, even if that took away peoples rights for a second.
I get the ideal, constitution and all, I also just think its already lost. Maybe now you gotta decide what side wins? Continuing to show up to the gun fight with a butter knife is not how you win. If you cant pull up the conservative brain washing machine by the roots, its game over. Only one way to get em by the roots. What you wanna do? Fight? Or go quietly into that dark night?
 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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The question I have is... if you ban the QAnon people from Twitter, aren't you reinforcing the "Big government doesn't want people to know the truth!" mindset in their heads?

Wouldn't it be better to post a "This link is total BS, and here's the reason why" type tag under these type of posts, instead of forcing them to go underground?
they will twist any facts/logic to suit their world view anyways you can't reason with determined crazy
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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The question I have is... if you ban the QAnon people from Twitter, aren't you reinforcing the "Big government doesn't want people to know the truth!" mindset in their heads?

Wouldn't it be better to post a "This link is total BS, and here's the reason why" type tag under these type of posts, instead of forcing them to go underground?

Read past the headlines. Qanon isn't being banned from twitter. Twitter is banning users that are violating its "multi-account' policy, ie users with multiple sockpuppets, etc that coordinate in order to falsely amplify their messages. That those violators happen to be Qanon isn't necessarily a coincidence, because people who knowingly spread defamatory lies and conspiracy theories aren't exactly known for being ethical, but being Qanon isn't the reason they're being banned.
As to your 2nd paragraph, even a warning label, those users would still make that claim of "Big government doesn't want people to know the truth!" And with public sentiment and public policy finally turning against the spread of defamation, twitter is being smart IMO to mitigate its risk in that regard, while 'forcing them underground' will get rid of that sockpuppets as bullhorns problem.
 
Nov 29, 2006
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The question I have is... if you ban the QAnon people from Twitter, aren't you reinforcing the "Big government doesn't want people to know the truth!" mindset in their heads?

Wouldn't it be better to post a "This link is total BS, and here's the reason why" type tag under these type of posts, instead of forcing them to go underground?

I think i’d rather force them underground where they belong. some shitty website the gov can easily track the nutters. Plus Twitter isn’t the gov so they’d be barking up the wrong tree at a private company that doesn’t want to host idiots.
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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I think i’d rather force them underground where they belong. some shitty website the gov can easily track the nutters. Plus Twitter isn’t the gov so they’d be barking up the wrong tree at a private company that doesn’t want to host idiots.

I'd be worried that when these people do find themselves on some secret Dark Web forum buried deep on the Tor network, they're going to come up some really stupid and highly illegal shit to do that the government isn't going to notice until it's too late.
 

Viper1j

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Jul 31, 2018
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The question I have is... if you ban the QAnon people from Twitter, aren't you reinforcing the "Big government doesn't want people to know the truth!" mindset in their heads?

Wouldn't it be better to post a "This link is total BS, and here's the reason why" type tag under these type of posts, instead of forcing them to go underground?

People's lives weren't being threatened over a link.

Q cult needed to be dealt with.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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The question I have is... if you ban the QAnon people from Twitter, aren't you reinforcing the "Big government doesn't want people to know the truth!" mindset in their heads?

Wouldn't it be better to post a "This link is total BS, and here's the reason why" type tag under these type of posts, instead of forcing them to go underground?

How is a proclaiming such information to be BS any better at not reinforcing their conspiratorial beliefs? You can’t reach those who are willfully ignorant but you can prevent more from being indoctrinated by limiting their exposure.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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IMO a decent leader who isn't afraid of going head-to-head intellectually with pretty much anyone out there, coupled with a communications platform that encourages reasoned debate, would be a start. Basic discussions like the need for a nuclear deterrent, surveillance, etc, need to be honestly had and heard by the masses.

People need to get used to the idea of a leader actually acting like one, who is willing to listen and respond honestly, who listens to the science behind whatever topic.

I think this is essential if one wishes to minimise the perpetual loop of society advancing and changing, and some of the populace feeling left behind because they don't understand how their society basically works.
You’re right, that Barack Obama guy is going to fix everything.
 
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digiram

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Apr 17, 2004
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This Q stuff is likely psyops by the GOP to string their base along. The question is, what happens when none of their claims come to fruition? At what point do the believers realize it's all bullcrap? How many boogie men can they keep throwing out there at people?

Also, the whole Bill Gates, George Soros, etc. Cabal thing is mind boggling. As these are the same people that want less taxes and less government. The owner class worked hard, so why should they help anyone type people. Now, Bill Gates is gonna chip you all, and George Soros is gonna take all your kids /sarcasm. Money is power.
 

Phokus

Lifer
Nov 20, 1999
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This Q stuff is likely psyops by the GOP to string their base along. The question is, what happens when none of their claims come to fruition? At what point do the believers realize it's all bullcrap? How many boogie men can they keep throwing out there at people?

Also, the whole Bill Gates, George Soros, etc. Cabal thing is mind boggling. As these are the same people that want less taxes and less government. The owner class worked hard, so why should they help anyone type people. Now, Bill Gates is gonna chip you all, and George Soros is gonna take all your kids /sarcasm. Money is power.

That already happened. Everyone was supposed to be arrested like 2 years ago. They follow the same pattern as those raving lunatics who scream that the world is going to end on XXX date, when it doesn't happen, they just give another date. If Trump loses the election, Q is just going to say that Trump left some loyalists in the government to go after the Clintons afterwards or some dumb shit.