How Planned Parenthood affected my youth

Riprorin

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How Planned Parenthood affected my youth

Jen Shroder
January 13, 2005

Planned Parenthood and the ACLU DEMAND the right to sway our children to abort their babies, to reprogram our children to their ideals.

"INTOLERANT CHRISTIAN!! RELIGIOUS RIGHT FANATIC!!" I have stood accused. What have I done but expressed my right of religious freedom ? to raise my children to obey the God that I know? Public schools continually attempt to weaken my son's faith. For standing up to that, I have been called names, been publicly mocked in our liberal local paper, I have received perverse threats by those who accuse ME of intolerance.

Public schools insist they know better than I do what to teach my children. Parents of faith are treated as buffoons that don't know anything and are incapable of parenting.

Let me tell you what I learned in public school. I learned about birth control. I learned where the "family planning" clinic was, right next to the high school. My friends and I thought it was so cool to be there without parents, treated as adults by smiling nurses, eager to give us diaphragms with that knowing wink of what we were doing.

It was carefully explained to us that no method of birth control was 100% foolproof. The common thought was if we got pregnant, we'd just have an abortion. It was just another way of being "grown-up" and it all seemed so pleasant. Planned Parenthood takes advantage of a girl's desire to feel independent. The first time out of my mother's grasp, it's so unfortunate I was placed in the hands of an entity like Planned Parenthood, feeling so encouraged to be "on my own" at a doctor's office for the first time. Everyone was so nice and understanding. That's what they were paid to be. Receiving money to contribute to the corruption of my young friends and I. Sick.

By the time I got pregnant, all of my friends had already had at least one abortion. I was surprised to find I couldn't abort. Something deep within me said, "No way." It didn't take courage, it was just out of the question. The baby's father, and every single friend I had, made it their personal crusade to convince me to abort. I realized that by my saying "no" their guilt racked them.

When I started to show, the pressure became too intense. I was a shame to my parents and neighborhood. So I gave away my collie (that almost killed me), sold my car and everything I owned and bought a one-way bus ticket to the unknown far north, Arcata, a place I'd never been before.

There was a two-hour layover in Crescent City in the pouring rain and the bus stop was unexpectedly locked up and deserted. There I was in the middle of nowhere with no shelter, not even an overlay of a rooftop. I sat on the curb, literally in a gutter, the rain pounding down, pregnant, alone, weeping. It couldn't get any worse than this.

Where were the smiling nurses now? Where were the sex education teachers that referred me to them? Who was there to comfort me in my desperation? There was only One, even though I had a new age attitude about Him back then, He was there, and He heard me. He cared, and I went on.

Today I am a born again Christian and I praise Him every day for my two precious sons as I watch them fall asleep. I have scores of girlfriends who never married, are over 40, Prince Charming never came and now they grieve the loss of their aborted children. Some have died of broken dreams, sexual disease and alcoholism. None of us realized the consequences of sitting in the waiting room of the free clinic, giddy with laughter and thrilled at being so "grown-up."

Now this same public school system wants to teach my kids to accept homosexuality as normal, worthy of exploring. What it is and how it's an acceptable choice. Is there a doctor alive that will testify that anal intercourse is healthy? Do educators really think they don't make an impact on our curious children as they validate these options? How lives would be changed if they would take our children to talk to dying AIDS victims rather than hand them condoms! By the way, we never used those condoms. We thought it was really funny to blow them up as balloons and leave them in the backseat of our boyfriend's cars. That would be an appropriate childlike response, because we were children!! But we did pick up on the idea that educated authority figures thought sex at our age was totally appropriate.

I object to so much that public schools teach our children today. I strongly resent the attitude of the administration, that parents are not able to teach their children morals and values, therefore the school must step in. It was the morals and the values of the public school system that got me in so much trouble in the first place! Yes, I was the one who made the choice to be sexually active, but I was a CHILD. And public school made it seem so acceptable, understandable and expected. Of course, the family planning clinic had a solution. They would have been so helpful, holding my hand, smiling that understanding smile, as they would have aborted my children if I'd have allowed them to.

But I didn't. And now my children are in the same school system. School professionals feel it is their right and privilege to teach my children THEIR way of thinking and to question mine. I have paid the price of listening to the schools, I don't want my children to go through that pain. Was the school board there with me weeping in the pouring rain, alone, frightened, fighting everyone and everything to have my children? Were they there to rock my infant sons all night when they were ill or fussy? Every time our children hurt, we are there. Every time they are hungry or frightened in the night, we are there. We love them, pray for them, pay for them, worry about them, sacrifice our lives and careers for them. What gives the schools the right to take away our parental rights? Who are the school officials to tell me that my son MUST know other gods? To ask my children to participate in other religious activities? To learn homosexuality? To read books of sorcery? To learn evolution which has not ONE thread of proof to it? What kind of religious freedom do I have if teachers insist on teaching other faiths to the point of participation and imagination? "Here is the god, this is how they worship him. Now imagine you're in worship to him, and write what's good about it." COME ON!

If I had obeyed God rather than listen to the school advise me on birth control, I would have saved myself so much pain. EVERYTHING God commands us not to do, He tells us for our own good. He doesn't want to see us suffer. It was not God's desire to see me destitute in the pouring rain, or the weeping of my friends over their aborted children. God picks up the pieces that are left behind by public educators, with all their degrees and honorary titles. They dare to inflict their twisted values on our children. What I truly can't understand, though, is why do we, as Christians, say okay? Our silence is an affirmative answer. I can tolerate so much from other people but when they try to teach that to my kids, beware!

I am no longer the only one at the school board meetings objecting. More and more pastors are beginning to protect their flocks. Religious leaders are beginning to stir up the saints to protect our children, while the Los Angeles Times publishes commentaries about the idiocy of religious people.

There is a culture war and it's over our children. As long as the liberal left continues to target our children to their perverted ideals, we will not stop fighting. Call us all the names you want to, but for the sake of our children, we will not submit.

Link

Good editorial on the deception that being to fed to our children and its consequences.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Let me guess. Troll and run?

I don't think you should continually bring threads off-topic and call people trolls you disagree with. I've heard that's vacation-worthy. IMHO, of course.
 

her209

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I agree. Parents shouldn't leave it to the schools to teach their children about sex education. They should be doing it themselves.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Let me guess. Troll and run?

I don't think you should continually bring threads off-topic and call people trolls you disagree with. I've heard that's vacation-worthy. IMHO, of course.

It's not a matter of disagreement. I haven't seen him respond to most of the threads he starts. That highly suggests he's a spammer troll.

EDIT: Most people who start threads actually want to get responses so they can respond in turn. Not just so they can add it to a flood of copy-n'-paste threads about sex being bad.
 

3chordcharlie

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Sorry Rip - That story is utter BS.

And if you really want to 'blame' someone, try blaming the parents in the story, as they certainly did nothing to help their child when she became pregnant and then decided to do what anti-abortion activists would consider the 'right' thing. (I'm not saying it's wrong - it was her choice and she made it).
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: JackStorm
How Planned Parenthood affected my youth

Damn...And here I was thinking Rip was finally coming out about how Planned Parenthood affected his youth. :p

That would require a post beyond cutting and pasting.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Sorry Rip - That story is utter BS.

And if you really want to 'blame' someone, try blaming the parents in the story, as they certainly did nothing to help their child when she became pregnant and then decided to do what anti-abortion activists would consider the 'right' thing. (I'm not saying it's wrong - it was her choice and she made it).

Which she has acknowledged:

Yes, I was the one who made the choice to be sexually active, but I was a CHILD. And public school made it seem so acceptable, understandable and expected.

Maybe it would be easier an easier choice for children if abstinence wasn't mocked and derided.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Sorry Rip - That story is utter BS.

And if you really want to 'blame' someone, try blaming the parents in the story, as they certainly did nothing to help their child when she became pregnant and then decided to do what anti-abortion activists would consider the 'right' thing. (I'm not saying it's wrong - it was her choice and she made it).

Which she has acknowledged:

Yes, I was the one who made the choice to be sexually active, but I was a CHILD. And public school made it seem so acceptable, understandable and expected.

Maybe it would be easier an easier choice for children if abstinence wasn't mocked and derided.
How can you change the behavior of their peers? When I was in school abstinence was pushed as the form of Birth control and it didn't stop most kids who wanted to get laid from doing so. We were as sexually active if not more than kids todays because we didn't have the fear of AIDS where getting some nooky can be a death sentence. At least they are teaching kids todays that if they are going to have sex at least try and protect themselves. Would you prefer they didn't teach kids how to protect themselves?
 

alzan

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If abstinence worked with 100% of the children it was taught to, I wouldn't object. But it doesn't. It needs to be taught, along with safe sex education to our children. Only then will we see reduced rates of STD's, unwanted pregnancies and abortions.

alzan
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: JackStorm
How Planned Parenthood affected my youth

Damn...And here I was thinking Rip was finally coming out about how Planned Parenthood affected his youth. :p

Want my story? :D

Sure, why not. :D

Oh - well, nothing as exciting as this article. Maybe I can be short and sweet.
Saw an ad for a "focus group" on teen sexuality. Made about $150 for several sessions. There was this topheavy redhead girl who started crying when we talked about abortion. First time I'd seen people get emotional over the subject. I never asked her why...instead I hit on her. We ended up making out once or twice but I never got past first base. I was only 15...

So, as you can see, PP perverted my youthful morals and catered to my greed! :D

That and I picked up some free condoms.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: JackStorm
How Planned Parenthood affected my youth

Damn...And here I was thinking Rip was finally coming out about how Planned Parenthood affected his youth. :p

Want my story? :D

Sure, why not. :D

Oh - well, nothing as exciting as this article. Maybe I can be short and sweet.
Saw an ad for a "focus group" on teen sexuality. Made about $150 for several sessions. There was this topheavy redhead girl who started crying when we talked about abortion. First time I'd seen people get emotional over the subject. I never asked her why...instead I hit on her. We ended up making out once or twice but I never got past first base. I was only 15...

So, as you can see, PP perverted my youthful morals and catered to my greed! :D

That and I picked up some free condoms.

Topheavy and only getting to first base should never go together. :(
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: JackStorm
How Planned Parenthood affected my youth

Damn...And here I was thinking Rip was finally coming out about how Planned Parenthood affected his youth. :p

Want my story? :D

Sure, why not. :D

Oh - well, nothing as exciting as this article. Maybe I can be short and sweet.
Saw an ad for a "focus group" on teen sexuality. Made about $150 for several sessions. There was this topheavy redhead girl who started crying when we talked about abortion. First time I'd seen people get emotional over the subject. I never asked her why...instead I hit on her. We ended up making out once or twice but I never got past first base. I was only 15...

So, as you can see, PP perverted my youthful morals and catered to my greed! :D

That and I picked up some free condoms.
You dog!! LOL:laugh:
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Sorry Rip - That story is utter BS.

And if you really want to 'blame' someone, try blaming the parents in the story, as they certainly did nothing to help their child when she became pregnant and then decided to do what anti-abortion activists would consider the 'right' thing. (I'm not saying it's wrong - it was her choice and she made it).

Which she has acknowledged:

Yes, I was the one who made the choice to be sexually active, but I was a CHILD. And public school made it seem so acceptable, understandable and expected.

Maybe it would be easier an easier choice for children if abstinence wasn't mocked and derided.
How can you change the behavior of their peers? When I was in school abstinence was pushed as the form of Birth control and it didn't stop most kids who wanted to get laid from doing so. We were as sexually active if not more than kids todays because we didn't have the fear of AIDS where getting some nooky can be a death sentence. At least they are teaching kids todays that if they are going to have sex at least try and protect themselves. Would you prefer they didn't teach kids how to protect themselves?

Ripronin has been deluded into thinking you can just tell your kids to abstain, and these words will somehow surpress their human instinct to wanna fvck. The only 100% sure fire way to keep your kids from screwing is to lock them in the basement til they're 25. And besides, even boys and then young men who do abstain will almost certainly masturbate, which some bible thumpers believe is immoral because it leads to deviant thoughts. I say screw em all.
 

dgevert

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Sorry Rip - That story is utter BS.

And if you really want to 'blame' someone, try blaming the parents in the story, as they certainly did nothing to help their child when she became pregnant and then decided to do what anti-abortion activists would consider the 'right' thing. (I'm not saying it's wrong - it was her choice and she made it).

Which she has acknowledged:

Yes, I was the one who made the choice to be sexually active, but I was a CHILD. And public school made it seem so acceptable, understandable and expected.

Maybe it would be easier an easier choice for children if abstinence wasn't mocked and derided.

I think the statistics speak for themselves. Europe has proven abstinence-only education is inferior.

When are you going to show some integrity and change your signature?
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Sorry Rip - That story is utter BS.

And if you really want to 'blame' someone, try blaming the parents in the story, as they certainly did nothing to help their child when she became pregnant and then decided to do what anti-abortion activists would consider the 'right' thing. (I'm not saying it's wrong - it was her choice and she made it).

Which she has acknowledged:

Yes, I was the one who made the choice to be sexually active, but I was a CHILD. And public school made it seem so acceptable, understandable and expected.

Maybe it would be easier an easier choice for children if abstinence wasn't mocked and derided.
How can you change the behavior of their peers? When I was in school abstinence was pushed as the form of Birth control and it didn't stop most kids who wanted to get laid from doing so. We were as sexually active if not more than kids todays because we didn't have the fear of AIDS where getting some nooky can be a death sentence. At least they are teaching kids todays that if they are going to have sex at least try and protect themselves. Would you prefer they didn't teach kids how to protect themselves?

Ripronin has been deluded into thinking you can just tell your kids to abstain, and these words will somehow surpress their human instinct to wanna fvck. The only 100% sure fire way to keep your kids from screwing is to lock them in the basement til they're 25. And besides, even boys and then young men who do abstain will almost certainly masturbate, which some bible thumpers believe is immoral because it leads to deviant thoughts. I say screw em all.

What's wrong with surpressing our human instincts? It's called self-control.
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Sorry Rip - That story is utter BS.

And if you really want to 'blame' someone, try blaming the parents in the story, as they certainly did nothing to help their child when she became pregnant and then decided to do what anti-abortion activists would consider the 'right' thing. (I'm not saying it's wrong - it was her choice and she made it).

Which she has acknowledged:

Yes, I was the one who made the choice to be sexually active, but I was a CHILD. And public school made it seem so acceptable, understandable and expected.

Maybe it would be easier an easier choice for children if abstinence wasn't mocked and derided.
How can you change the behavior of their peers? When I was in school abstinence was pushed as the form of Birth control and it didn't stop most kids who wanted to get laid from doing so. We were as sexually active if not more than kids todays because we didn't have the fear of AIDS where getting some nooky can be a death sentence. At least they are teaching kids todays that if they are going to have sex at least try and protect themselves. Would you prefer they didn't teach kids how to protect themselves?

Ripronin has been deluded into thinking you can just tell your kids to abstain, and these words will somehow surpress their human instinct to wanna fvck. The only 100% sure fire way to keep your kids from screwing is to lock them in the basement til they're 25. And besides, even boys and then young men who do abstain will almost certainly masturbate, which some bible thumpers believe is immoral because it leads to deviant thoughts. I say screw em all.

What's wrong with surpressing our human instincts? It's called self-control.

you've obviously forgot what it was like to be a 17yr old, or you never enjoyed that time of your life to begin with..or had a very serious case of blueballs which longterm has affected your entire outlook on sex
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Sorry Rip - That story is utter BS.

And if you really want to 'blame' someone, try blaming the parents in the story, as they certainly did nothing to help their child when she became pregnant and then decided to do what anti-abortion activists would consider the 'right' thing. (I'm not saying it's wrong - it was her choice and she made it).

Which she has acknowledged:

Yes, I was the one who made the choice to be sexually active, but I was a CHILD. And public school made it seem so acceptable, understandable and expected.

Maybe it would be easier an easier choice for children if abstinence wasn't mocked and derided.
How can you change the behavior of their peers? When I was in school abstinence was pushed as the form of Birth control and it didn't stop most kids who wanted to get laid from doing so. We were as sexually active if not more than kids todays because we didn't have the fear of AIDS where getting some nooky can be a death sentence. At least they are teaching kids todays that if they are going to have sex at least try and protect themselves. Would you prefer they didn't teach kids how to protect themselves?

Ripronin has been deluded into thinking you can just tell your kids to abstain, and these words will somehow surpress their human instinct to wanna fvck. The only 100% sure fire way to keep your kids from screwing is to lock them in the basement til they're 25. And besides, even boys and then young men who do abstain will almost certainly masturbate, which some bible thumpers believe is immoral because it leads to deviant thoughts. I say screw em all.

What's wrong with surpressing our human instincts? It's called self-control.

Nothing. You control YOURS and I'll control MINE! :D

 

dgevert

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
What's wrong with surpressing our human instincts? It's called self-control.

When are you going to show some integrity?

Sex isn't immoral. There's no good reason to surpress (sic) our human instincts.
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: dgevert
Originally posted by: Riprorin
What's wrong with surpressing our human instincts? It's called self-control.

When are you going to show some integrity?

Sex isn't immoral. There's no good reason to surpress (sic) our human instincts.

maybe he should do P&N a favor and supress his instinct to eat for a month. I categorize the need to have sex as equal to the need to eat, both instinctual, both are necessary for survival.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Riprorin: (EXCERPT) By the time I got pregnant, all of my friends had already had at least one abortion. I was surprised to find I couldn't abort. Something deep within me said, "No way." It didn't take courage, it was just out of the question. The baby's father, and every single friend I had, made it their personal crusade to convince me to abort. I realized that by my saying "no" their guilt racked them.

When I started to show, the pressure became too intense. I was a shame to my parents and neighborhood. So I gave away my collie (that almost killed me), sold my car and everything I owned and bought a one-way bus ticket to the unknown far north, Arcata, a place I'd never been before.

There was a two-hour layover in Crescent City in the pouring rain and the bus stop was unexpectedly locked up and deserted. There I was in the middle of nowhere with no shelter, not even an overlay of a rooftop. I sat on the curb, literally in a gutter, the rain pounding down, pregnant, alone, weeping. It couldn't get any worse than this.

Where were the smiling nurses now? Where were the sex education teachers that referred me to them? Who was there to comfort me in my desperation? There was only One, even though I had a new age attitude about Him back then, He was there, and He heard me. He cared, and I went on.

From what this woman wrote, it looks like she was naive, took a risk, and blames the system designed to prevent such dilemmas. Notice that she doesn't mention what contraception she used.

Having to face the fact that she was going to have children, like it or not, broke her emotionally. Notice the emotion exhibited when she writes that she was "literally in a gutter, the rain pounding down, pregnant, alone, weeping." From my vantage point, she was just a naive woman who made a grievous mistake, destroyed her confidence, and found religion as an outlet for justification.

In this case religion fixes all of her problems. It justifies her parenthood, it instills confidence, and it keeps her happy. Any objective individual with a modicum of experience dealing with psychological reactions can clearly see that she is masking her failure with the ultimate justification for having failed: divinity.

In my opinion however, whatever makes the person happy, as long as it doesn't affect me is fine. That is why a story such as this is pointless. Not only does it point out her psychological shortcomings and lack of character, but it serves to blame Planned Parenthood who attempted to prevent this from ever happening.
Sadly, so many people will listen to every word people like this write.

If there is a God, and I am not sure, he would truly realize that this person doesn't love him. They simply use God as a justification for their own reckless actions and eventual "epiphany." In my opinion, composed of a myriad of wisdom taken from learned church folk and the erudite elite alike, if there is a God, he is no idiot, and he appreciates honesty.

EDIT: spelling:(
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Let me guess. Troll and run?

I don't think you should continually bring threads off-topic and call people trolls you disagree with. I've heard that's vacation-worthy. IMHO, of course.

It's not a matter of disagreement. I haven't seen him respond to most of the threads he starts. That highly suggests he's a spammer troll.

EDIT: Most people who start threads actually want to get responses so they can respond in turn. Not just so they can add it to a flood of copy-n'-paste threads about sex being bad.

It would be nice and neater if all the Ripping baby Heads off, Pro Choice, Planned Parenthood etc posts were put into one thread like I try and keep Oil with Oil, Economy with Economy etc.

Yes, No???