How Pissed off would you be if the Yankees get Randy Johnson?

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Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: TheAudit
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: TheAudit
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Yeah, it's all about the size of the market. That's why the Mets, who share the exact same market, have such an awesome history. :roll:

All the spending in the world guarantees you nothing except a good record during the regular season. That?s it. In a short series it is anyone?s game.
Right now the Yankees are outspending everyone.
The Yankees are destroying baseball?
Look at the standings. I count eight teams that are double digit games away from their division leader. The rest of baseball is still in it. Just get to the playoffs, get hot, and any team can win.

Spending doesn?t guarantee anything except a, hopefully, decent product on the field.

EDIT-
CRAP, quoted the wrong post!

The point is that there is one certainty every year : The Yankees will be in the playoffs. There's also another almost certainty : The Yankees will probably win the World Series this year (every year) but hopefully someone will beat them in a 7 game series.

How is that even remotely interesting? I open up watching every baseball season looking for the team that might beat the Yankees. That's stupid.


I would argue that there are plenty of examples of smaller market teams that contend.
If you can?t spend a lot then you need to make good baseball decisions.
How about the Brewers?
Obviously that is a small market team and their budget is marginal. They are five games over .500.
Minnesota contends every year as does Oakland (although Moneyball seems always fall down in the playoffs). St. Louis has the second best record in baseball and their payroll isn?t astronomical. Atlanta, the team of the decade, never has had the highest payroll.

If your team is not winning it?s always easy to blame the bigger market, it never has to do with poor management or with an owner who does not want to invest in his team.

This isn't about freaking contention. You argued nothing and didn't even bother to address the point. Am I wrong when I say 'The Yankees will probably win the World Series every year'?

There's only one team that I can ever see beating the Yankees at the beginning of each and every season. You know who that team is? The Yankees. That is why baseball sucks. The great thing for the league though is that at least the dominant team is in a heavily populated market that can drive ratings AND that it is a historic team that has fans all over the country.

Otherwise this sport would be dead.
 

DWW

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Originally posted by: Strang
That would suck. A-Rod *and* The Big Unit on the Yankees -- they might as well trade for Griffey and Ichiro and tear my heart right out of my chest.

<-- Mariners fan

:confused:

I'm kind of worried why they call him that...
 

imported_Strang

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Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Strang
That would suck. A-Rod *and* The Big Unit on the Yankees -- they might as well trade for Griffey and Ichiro and tear my heart right out of my chest.

<-- Mariners fan

:confused:

I'm kind of worried why they call him that...

Because he's 6'10"? :p
 

MechJinx

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Originally posted by: TheAudit
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: TheAudit
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Yeah, it's all about the size of the market. That's why the Mets, who share the exact same market, have such an awesome history. :roll:

All the spending in the world guarantees you nothing except a good record during the regular season. That?s it. In a short series it is anyone?s game.
Right now the Yankees are outspending everyone.
The Yankees are destroying baseball?
Look at the standings. I count eight teams that are double digit games away from their division leader. The rest of baseball is still in it. Just get to the playoffs, get hot, and any team can win.

Spending doesn?t guarantee anything except a, hopefully, decent product on the field.

EDIT-
CRAP, quoted the wrong post!

The point is that there is one certainty every year : The Yankees will be in the playoffs. There's also another almost certainty : The Yankees will probably win the World Series this year (every year) but hopefully someone will beat them in a 7 game series.

How is that even remotely interesting? I open up watching every baseball season looking for the team that might beat the Yankees. That's stupid.


I would argue that there are plenty of examples of smaller market teams that contend.
If you can?t spend a lot then you need to make good baseball decisions.
How about the Brewers?
Obviously that is a small market team and their budget is marginal. They are five games over .500.
Minnesota contends every year as does Oakland (although Moneyball seems always fall down in the playoffs). St. Louis has the second best record in baseball and their payroll isn?t astronomical. Atlanta, the team of the decade, never has had the highest payroll.

If your team is not winning it?s always easy to blame the bigger market, it never has to do with poor management or with an owner who does not want to invest in his team.


I know that there is bad management involved. Look at my favorite team, the Mets. They are the perfect example of how bad management can spend a ton of money and come up empty handed. As for St. Louis and Atlanta, I'm not positive, but I do believe they are in the top ten. Oakland and Minnesota are perfect examples of MLB farm teams. They develop good young, talent. Then, the Yankees and other big money teams take the best talent when their rookie contracts expire. So, as long as they manage to keep developing young talent, they will compete, sounds real fair. And for kickers, let's take a look at the last 10 world series winners:

Year Winner Payroll Payroll Ranking
1993 Toronto $45.7M 1st
1995 Atlanta $47.9M 3rd
1996 New York (AL) $52.2M 1st
1997 Florida $47.7M 7th
1998 New York (AL) $63.2M 2nd
1999 New York (AL) $88.1M 1st
2000 New York (AL) $92.9M 1st
2001 Arizona $85.2M 8th
2002 Anaheim $61.7M 15th
2003 Florida $49.0M 25th

Hmmm, two teams in the last 10 years that weren't in the top 10 of payroll won the World Series, how surprising.
 

DWW

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Originally posted by: Strang
Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Strang
That would suck. A-Rod *and* The Big Unit on the Yankees -- they might as well trade for Griffey and Ichiro and tear my heart right out of my chest.

<-- Mariners fan

:confused:

I'm kind of worried why they call him that...

Because he's 6'10"? :p

Ah...

but still... why not "The Big Guy" or "The Big Man"
 

imported_Strang

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Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Strang
Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Strang
That would suck. A-Rod *and* The Big Unit on the Yankees -- they might as well trade for Griffey and Ichiro and tear my heart right out of my chest.

<-- Mariners fan

:confused:

I'm kind of worried why they call him that...

Because he's 6'10"? :p

Ah...

but still... why not "The Big Guy" or "The Big Man"

Because those are lame nicknames. :D