"How old do you think the Earth is?" Marco Rubio: "I'm not a scientist, man."

[zinfamous]

I often wondered if the term "The Big bang theory" implied that God was having a giant orgy up there.....

Not exactly...

 

[ShawnD1]

Dude, it wasn't a chili contest; bringing the Universe and everything in it into existence is all about endurance! Plus he wasn't just saying words, think about the distance at which he had to shout them because he's not part of our Universe.

He was jerking off while creating the universe. First he's like OMG LET SEE SOME LIGHT and then OMG LETS SEE ANIMALS AND STUFF. He blew his load on the 6th day and stopped to ask wtf he was doing a second ago. Since then, he walked away from the project to do something sensible like play world of warcraft.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

You're looking at it wrong. God simply is not a part of the universe. The idea is that the universe and everything that is in it and all that has ever happened or will happen is like a book. God can see all the pages at once while not being contained within the "book" or something like that.😉

"The universe" generally denotes the totality of things that exist. There are no things that exist that are not members of this set. If it is your contention that something exists which is not in the universe, it is your burden to demonstrate that your idea is coherent and meaningful.

Good luck with that.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

If God began to exist then you may have a point.

Please present your evidence that the universe began to exist.

 

[buckshot24]

"The universe" generally denotes the totality of things that exist. There are no things that exist that are not members of this set. If it is your contention that something exists which is not in the universe, it is your burden to demonstrate that your idea is coherent and meaningful.

Good luck with that.

Darnit!

You used a definition to prove that God doesn't exist!😵

Look, believe what you want I couldn't care less.

 

[buckshot24]

Please present your evidence that the universe began to exist.

I wasn't presenting any argument here.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Darnit!

You used a definition to prove that God doesn't exist!😵

No I didn't. Did you understand what I wrote, at all?

Look, believe what you want I couldn't care less.

Seems like you couldn't care less about reading comprehension, either.

I wasn't presenting any argument here.

Neither was I.

 

[buckshot24]

Neither was I.

Well good. We can keep this short then. 😉

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Well good. We can keep this short then. 😉

Wanna bet?

 

[buckshot24]

Wanna bet?

We as in me and you. I'm done.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

We as in me and you. I'm done.

Yeah I figured you were all out of arguments. That happens when facts do not bear out your position.

 

[buckshot24]

Yeah I figured you were all out of arguments. That happens when facts do not bear out your position.

lol

I didn't make one argument and you said you didn't make any either so whats the problem?

Have a happy thanksgiving.

 

[TechAZ]

"The universe" generally denotes the totality of things that exist. There are no things that exist that are not members of this set. If it is your contention that something exists which is not in the universe, it is your burden to demonstrate that your idea is coherent and meaningful.

Good luck with that.

I am agnostic, but how do you feel about the multiverse theory? That theory says that there could be more out there than this universe. What is in that universe? Could universes be born from other universes in some way? From something else?

One could say (and be scientifically correct) that there is nothing that exists that is not in our universe, or that the big bang theory is the absolute beginning of the universe, but theories can and do be proven wrong when science is able to observe and calculate alternatives.

I believe that long after I am dead some physics theories and cosmological facts will be changed. There is a lot of unknown in the physics world and observable universe.

 

[davmat787]

I often wondered if the term "The Big bang theory" implied that God was having a giant orgy up there.....

Figures your brain would come up with something as complex and meaningful as an orgy while pondering the beginnings of the universe and origins of life. 🙄

 

[davmat787]

I am agnostic, but how do you feel about the multiverse theory? That theory says that there could be more out there than this universe. What is in that universe? Could universes be born from other universes in some way? From something else?

I know you are not asking me, and CerpinTaxt will no doubt provide a more interesting response, but I can help but wonder if super massive blackholes have something to do with the creation of a universe. Consider that all the matter in our universe that has ever existed was present right after the big bang.

Where did all this matter come from and so quickly?

I believe that long after I am dead some physics theories and cosmological facts will be changed. There is a lot of unknown in the physics world and observable universe.

I kind of assume this to just be a fact, that our knowledge in regards to the cosmos will only continue to grow and evolve. Would be very boring were this not to be the case.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

lol

I didn't make one argument and you said you didn't make any either so whats the problem?

If there is no problem, what use were your comments?

Have a happy thanksgiving.

Thanksgiving is capitalized.

 

[buckshot24]

Thanksgiving is capitalized.

Wow, what a prick. Ok since you shit on my well-wish. How about you stick that turkey up your ass?

 

[UberNeuman]

Wow, what a prick. Ok since you shit on my well-wish. How about you stick that turkey up your ass?

lol.... Ladies, please - Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.....

\a turkey up the ass would be a Turdtuckin.....

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Wow, what a prick. Ok since you shit on my well-wish. How about you stick that turkey up your ass?

There's those true colors shining through! Don't worry, you're surprising exactly nobody.

 

[buckshot24]

There's those true colors shining through! Don't worry, you're surprising exactly nobody.

I wished you a happy thanksgiving and you corrected my capitalization in return. That was a prick move pure and simple.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I wished you a happy thanksgiving and you corrected my capitalization in return. That was a prick move pure and simple.

If you say so, Sunshine.

P.S. Thanksgiving is still capitalized.

 

[stormkroe]

If the existence of a watch implies a watchmaker then the existence of a god implies a godmaker.

The answer to this one (at least) is very easy. The law of causality requires a one-directional movement in time. The Bible teaches that God CREATED all matter, space, and time, so there is no violation of cause and affect before the Universe began at the Big Bang™. No beginning required because without time, there's no such thing as a beginning.

I've never heard the gradual day-lengthening theory before, but I can tell you right now exactly why it's a very disprovable theory: We can see almost every stage of the universe' existence through telescopes and there is NEVER any record that the laws of physics have changed. It'd make red-shift detection of universal expansion pretty unreliable.

The Genesis account fits perfectly with the scientifically-accepted model of today, that being everything came from a near-infinitely dense and hot singularity around 14 billion years ago.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

The answer to this one (at least) is very easy. The law of causality requires a one-directional movement in time.

Which law is that?

The Bible teaches that God CREATED all matter, space, and time, so there is no violation of cause and affect before the Universe began at the Big Bang™. No beginning required because without time, there's no such thing as a beginning.

Incoherent. Without time creation cannot happen.

I've never heard the gradual day-lengthening theory before, but I can tell you right now exactly why it's a very disprovable theory: We can see almost every stage of the universe' existence through telescopes and there is NEVER any record that the laws of physics have changed. It'd make red-shift detection of universal expansion pretty unreliable.

The Genesis account fits perfectly with the scientifically-accepted model of today, that being everything came from a near-infinitely dense and hot singularity around 14 billion years ago.

Where does Genesis indicate that 7 days amount to billions of years?

 

[stormkroe]

Which law is that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality_(physics)

Incoherent. Without time creation cannot happen.

It's kinda funny, you just answered your first question with your second 🙂
Think about this for a minute, I feel like this is just your opinion because the big bang model states that all matter, space and time came from a single point, before which there was no matter, space and time. I think we can all agree that the universe 'happened' 🙂

Where does Genesis indicate that 7 days amount to billions of years?

It doesn't state that 7 24 hour periods actually equals billions of years. The Hebrew word 'yom' has 4 different meanings, one of which is 'an indefinite period of time'. We see 'day' instead of 'era' in english translations of Genesis because there was no reason to think otherwise until relatively recent discoveries in science.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality_(physics)

I don't find this alleged law of causality in that page. I did find a description of non-causal phenomena, however. That shouldn't be if there is a "law" against it, right? Please, educate me how that can be.

It's kinda funny, you just answered your first question with your second 🙂
Think about this for a minute, I feel like this is just your opinion because the big bang model states that all matter, space and time came from a single point, before which there was no matter, space and time.

That's not what the big bang model describes.

I think we can all agree that the universe 'happened' 🙂

No, I will agree that the universe is.

It doesn't state that 7 24 hour periods actually equals billions of years. The Hebrew word 'yom' has 4 different meanings, one of which is 'an indefinite period of time'. We see 'day' instead of 'era' in english translations of Genesis because there was no reason to think otherwise until relatively recent discoveries in science.

So where are those revisions in the text?