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How Obama responds to criticism of 'hope' and 'just words'

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Just Words ... Too Bad they aren't Obama's words

David Axelrod ran both Governor Deval Patrick and Obama's campaigns. Deval Patrick was first to use the "yes we can" moniker. Obama just happened to use it as well 2 years later.
Now, Obama is lifting parts of speeches from Patrick. Imagine if Clinton or Joe Biden did this. Will the press call him out for lifting parts of speeches from other politicians? Is Obama really the empty suit I fear that he is?

 
Originally posted by: chowderhead
Just Words ... Too Bad they aren't Obama's words

David Axelrod ran both Governor Deval Patrick and Obama's campaigns. Deval Patrick was first to use the "yes we can" moniker. Obama just happened to use it as well 2 years later.
Now, Obama is lifting parts of speeches from Patrick. Imagine if Clinton or Joe Biden did this. Will the press call him out for lifting parts of speeches from other politicians? Is Obama really the empty suit I fear that he is?
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Its a good thing no one has ever ran an campaign on experience..ever...

Cause man..that would throw me for a loop, Wait let me go back through all the presidential hopefull speeches ever and see if I can find one that ran on experience..I know it'll be hard.




The point of the matter is neither persons campaign is original, people have run on "hope and dreams" before (Bill Clinton in 92 for example) and people have ran on experience, yes speeches are going to overlap, in my day to day conversation I use tons of sentences, phrase structures, theme structures that I have heard before because they sound good and I remember them and they come out as part of the base of my knowledge. To think that Obama ran out of speeches to say and needed to go back a few years to find a one liner is pretty naive.


With that said, that was an amazing speech with some key points.
 
All hope is false hope. There is only doom death and failure. There is only the misery we deserve. We are up to our necks in shit and all we pray for and chant is please don't make a wave. Oh please do not make a wave.

OBAMA WANTS TO MAKE A WAVE! No no. please Obama, don't make a wave.

He must be stopped, we must destroy him and his hope. We will go under the shit is there's even one wave.

Oh, please. please. please kill hope.
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Obama is full of sh!t. His message basically is "elect me and I'll solve everything". He's only feeding people what they want to hear without offering any substance. What a tool.
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Exactly.
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Hes given just as much detail about his policies as Clinton has.
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Obama reminds me of Hitler. He was inspiring too. What bothers me the most is that you will have no freaking idea what he would do as president. McCain and Clinton we pretty much can predict. Note who is going for Obama: ignorant youths who are easily manipulable.
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As well as the wealthiest and people with the most education.

Who is going for Hilary? Ignorant, uneducated people en masse. I'm guessing your in that group 🙂
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That's a load of crap.
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: chowderhead
Just Words ... Too Bad they aren't Obama's words

David Axelrod ran both Governor Deval Patrick and Obama's campaigns. Deval Patrick was first to use the "yes we can" moniker. Obama just happened to use it as well 2 years later.
Now, Obama is lifting parts of speeches from Patrick. Imagine if Clinton or Joe Biden did this. Will the press call him out for lifting parts of speeches from other politicians? Is Obama really the empty suit I fear that he is?
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Its a good thing no one has ever ran an campaign on experience..ever...

Cause man..that would throw me for a loop, Wait let me go back through all the presidential hopefull speeches ever and see if I can find one that ran on experience..I know it'll be hard.




The point of the matter is neither persons campaign is original, people have run on "hope and dreams" before (Bill Clinton in 92 for example) and people have ran on experience, yes speeches are going to overlap, in my day to day conversation I use tons of sentences, phrase structures, theme structures that I have heard before because they sound good and I remember them and they come out as part of the base of my knowledge. To think that Obama ran out of speeches to say and needed to go back a few years to find a one liner is pretty naive.


With that said, that was an amazing speech with some key points.
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Ironic isn't it that Obama is arguing that words/speeches are important when those words aren't even his.
 
The ironic truth is that words don't matter when they are said by someone who only uses them tactically, who is not trustworthy, and who has no integrity. Hillary Clinton's words DON'T matter, because her words are nothing more than a calculated tool to get elected.

In fact, the entire "words don't matter" attack is itself words that don't matter. It is just words, thrown in desperation by a flailing campaign.
 
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Obama is full of sh!t. His message basically is "elect me and I'll solve everything". He's only feeding people what they want to hear without offering any substance. What a tool.
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Exactly.
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Hes given just as much detail about his policies as Clinton has.
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Obama reminds me of Hitler. He was inspiring too. What bothers me the most is that you will have no freaking idea what he would do as president. McCain and Clinton we pretty much can predict. Note who is going for Obama: ignorant youths who are easily manipulable.
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Didn't Fox News come up with the Hitler thing?

 
If he loses this race, I think he could easily become president of toastmasters.
Obama reminds me of Hitler. He was inspiring too.
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Mmm, tastes good, I love a little Godwin's demagogery in the morning. He reminds you of Hitler. He reminds me of Jesus. He was inspiring, too. In reality, he'll be somewhere between those two.
 
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Obama is full of sh!t. His message basically is "elect me and I'll solve everything". He's only feeding people what they want to hear without offering any substance. What a tool.
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Exactly.
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Hes given just as much detail about his policies as Clinton has.
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Watch any news show and the journalists will freely admit Clinton has far superior in-depth knowledge on all the issues, especially on a national/international level. And she should, she spent 8 years in the white house and 6+ in the senate. But experience hasn't been the trump card she hoped it would be, and a large segment of obama supporters are first time voters, and since when did 18-21 year olds care about in-depth knowledge? "He's cool, she's a bitch, I'll vote for him." Popularity contest 101.
 
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Obama is full of sh!t. His message basically is "elect me and I'll solve everything". He's only feeding people what they want to hear without offering any substance. What a tool.
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Exactly.
Click to expand...

Hes given just as much detail about his policies as Clinton has.
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Watch any news show and the journalists will freely admit Clinton has far superior in-depth knowledge on all the issues, especially on a national/international level. And she should, she spent 8 years in the white house and 6+ in the senate. But experience hasn't been the trump card she hoped it would be, and a large segment of obama supporters are first time voters, and since when did 18-21 year olds care about in-depth knowledge? "He's cool, she's a bitch, I'll vote for him." Popularity contest 101.
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You are focusing too much on the negative of ill-experience. People know that "experience" coincides with having had plenty of time to get poisoned by the system as well. This is some effort to wipe the slate clean.
 
Another good sized segment of Obama supporters are politically experienced voters that are tired, tired, tired of the Clinton and Bush dynasties and don't want to see that dynasty continue.

If it's true that Obama is primarily being supported by young, first time voters I doubt he'd be getting the turnout numbers he has been. That younger demographic generally doesn't actually get their booty to a voting booth. So someone else besides those first timers is pulling the lever for Obama. I guess it's a comforting talking point for the Shrillary supporters though to believe that those inexperienced in the way of politics are the ones voting for Obama. Let them think that too.
 
Originally posted by: QuaziK
obama is such a fraud
check out this youtube - obviously planting "fainters" in his audience (6+ seperate venues? coincidence?) so as to appear compassionate etc - each time offering his water bottle lol...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwzVLP2NcqI
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Yeah, I bet the 3 women who passed out at the Van Halen concert I went to the other night were plants too, because people never faint in large crowds. Old Diamond Dave is a tricky bastard.
 
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Obama is full of sh!t. His message basically is "elect me and I'll solve everything". He's only feeding people what they want to hear without offering any substance. What a tool.
Click to expand...

Exactly.
Click to expand...

Hes given just as much detail about his policies as Clinton has.
Click to expand...

Watch any news show and the journalists will freely admit Clinton has far superior in-depth knowledge on all the issues, especially on a national/international level. And she should, she spent 8 years in the white house and 6+ in the senate. But experience hasn't been the trump card she hoped it would be, and a large segment of obama supporters are first time voters, and since when did 18-21 year olds care about in-depth knowledge? "He's cool, she's a bitch, I'll vote for him." Popularity contest 101.
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Hillary Clinton spent 8 years in the White House? Interesting spin. Yes, she spent them in the White House, but it wasn't being President!

How does she get away with claiming all this experience? She has been a senator - that's it.
 
we'll never know as long as they (stupidly) keep her first lady records sealed, but she had arguably more influential and was more important in the chain of command during the Clinton years than the VP. she was basically assumed to be the power behind the throne, but the Clintons are sabotaging themselves by not releasing her records.
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Another good sized segment of Obama supporters are politically experienced voters that are tired, tired, tired of the Clinton and Bush dynasties and don't want to see that dynasty continue.

If it's true that Obama is primarily being supported by young, first time voters I doubt he'd be getting the turnout numbers he has been. That younger demographic generally doesn't actually get their booty to a voting booth. So someone else besides those first timers is pulling the lever for Obama. I guess it's a comforting talking point for the Shrillary supporters though to believe that those inexperienced in the way of politics are the ones voting for Obama. Let them think that too.
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IMHO, most of the younger voters went for Ron Paul.
 
Originally posted by: Farang
alphatarget1 sure is good at completely ignoring what someone else is saying and responding with irrelevant one-liners.
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Don't forget, if you like Obama, you're ignorant and young!
 
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
People need to get over the "Ron Paul Saviour" crap. He's a good speaker, thats it. /thread
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/see how that works both ways?
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Don't pick on the RPB's hero. I am just warning you man, they'll defend him until they die, even though all of his policies suck.
 
Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Obama is full of sh!t. His message basically is "elect me and I'll solve everything". He's only feeding people what they want to hear without offering any substance. What a tool.
Click to expand...

Exactly.
Click to expand...

Hes given just as much detail about his policies as Clinton has.
Click to expand...

Watch any news show and the journalists will freely admit Clinton has far superior in-depth knowledge on all the issues, especially on a national/international level. And she should, she spent 8 years in the white house and 6+ in the senate. But experience hasn't been the trump card she hoped it would be, and a large segment of obama supporters are first time voters, and since when did 18-21 year olds care about in-depth knowledge? "He's cool, she's a bitch, I'll vote for him." Popularity contest 101.
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Hillary Clinton spent 8 years in the White House? Interesting spin. Yes, she spent them in the White House, but it wasn't being President!

How does she get away with claiming all this experience? She has been a senator - that's it.
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And a jr. senator at that, for not much longer than Obama.
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
we'll never know as long as they (stupidly) keep her first lady records sealed, but she had arguably more influential and was more important in the chain of command during the Clinton years than the VP. she was basically assumed to be the power behind the throne, but the Clintons are sabotaging themselves by not releasing her records.
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Are you sure of that? They are keeping it under wraps for a reason.
 
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