How not to run a restaurant 101

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I rarely do fine dining, but this is weird. Certainly small businesses can be sensitive to chargebacks, so why did the restaurant encourage the consumer to go talk to the CC company? That is how NOT to do things. Secondly, travel insurance is a perk that's always contracted to a third party insurer. If the cardholder tried to file a claim, it wouldn't have resulted in a chargeback unless the CC issuer walked him down that path.

And finally if it's such a successful restaurant, WTF go nutso over $250? I'd understand if it was a hole-in-the-wall joint struggling to stay afloat, but like you said, this restaurant is asking to go under.
Yeah, certain aspects of the story don't quite add up, but the restaurant owner hasn't done herself any favors to earn the benefit of the doubt with her current brash behavior (and long history of it), and that cancellation fee is also pretty absurd. Plus, if not having 2 people at a table impacts your bottom line so much, your business model is shit.
 
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I would have laughed at that lady.... had the fee been (still unreasonable IMO) $40-$50 TOTAL I still would have charged back myself.

It would be one thing to get all pissy over a "no-show no-call" but that's not what happened here.
 
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I have a feeling how the restaurant handles the cancellation fee could also have played a role into why the CC's insurance issued a charge back instead of just cutting a check via insurance policy.

If they collected the fee at the initial booking, and said you get a credit of that amount towards your bill (or refund if you cancel with appropriate notice), it might have been fine (ie, insurance keeps both parties whole). Instead, TABLE issued a charge, as a restaurant, in a window of time that the customer says they were in a hospital, so to the CC company and their merchant terms, they are like "we're going to look at our bottom line" and potentially view the charge as illegitimate or violating some other terms or laws (ie, excessively high cancellation fee).

Also, if they are so popular, but don't have any walk-ins, they could have had a waitlist to draw people from to cover some of the cancellations.
I'll also say that as a general rule, despite our intense love affair with capitalism, you generally don't get to charge someone for no services rendered, regardless of what the fine print says. Now issuing charge backs may put you in some black books, so it may not be advisable to do it to say, an airline... Let's just say if I'm missing a flight due to being on my death bed, I might just issue one last middle finger via the bank.
 

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As a small business owner I can empathize with this woman. Do I agree with the way she goes about responding to customers who leave bad reviews? No of course not but it is really frustrating to get a negative review for something that may or may not be true.

Here is an example of a negative review my business received. A person left us a two star review because we don't sell house plants. We have never sold house plants and never advertised that we sell house plants. Its just something we don't get into but yet this person decided to leave a bad review because of this.

The worst part is these reviews are there forever with little or no way to correct them besides the response which doesn't really help because most people just look at the 5-star rating. When you're a small business who only has 86 or so reviews like mine it can be really disappointing.

Anyway, I don't want anyone to think I'm defending this woman for her actions but in a weird way I can understand why she lashes out in frustration.
 

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I always read reviews cause people are idiots. I like top reviews, and worst reviews. with those, I can generally get a feel for what the product really is after accounting for nonsense. I could be in the minority. Dunno.
I mean this in the most sincere way possible. After being here 10+ years and reading your posts you are far from what most normal people are like. At least that's the vibe I get from you when you post.
 
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This seems to intermingle the terms 'travel insurance' and 'credit card dispute', and also raises questions about the reason for cancellation and how it was done.


That part seems fishy for sure on dispute vs insurance. Though, if he was using insurance and his trip was delayed, trip delay insurance would also cover stuff, so the purported reason for the initial cancellation seems immaterial (ie, giving up because of severely delayed train vs genuine hospitalization). And the $125/person cancellation fee is excessive.

Regardless, if you're a business owner, don't slide into the social media DMs of a patron you might be looking to have a conversation with and start off with a nasty gram. I don't think that's ever going to end well.
As a small business owner I can empathize with this woman. Do I agree with the way she goes about responding to customers who leave bad reviews? No of course not but it is really frustrating to get a negative review for something that may or may not be true.

Here is an example of a negative review my business received. A person left us a two star review because we don't sell house plants. We have never sold house plants and never advertised that we sell house plants. Its just something we don't get into but yet this person decided to leave a bad review because of this.

The worst part is these reviews are there forever with little or no way to correct them besides the response which doesn't really help because most people just look at the 5-star rating. When you're a small business who only has 86 or so reviews like mine it can be really disappointing.

Anyway, I don't want anyone to think I'm defending this woman for her actions but in a weird way I can understand why she lashes out in frustration.
Yeah, sorry you have to deal with those kinds idiots and troubles. I would say if I was evaluating reviews of a new place, and I saw professional, even-keeled responses to negative reviews (that are also factually weird), I'd be more likely to side with the business owner. But if every time the business owner responded to any sort of criticism, legitimate or otherwise, by going nuclear angry, I might think there was some truth the negative reviews.
 
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Scarpozzi

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A place like that would be burned to the ground in my city. I'm surprised Boston puts up with it.

I went back and read yelp reviews and saw a string of them from this viral situation, but many more reaching back to last year echoing similar circumstances. Appears to be a legitimately terrible place.
 

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A place like that would be burned to the ground in my city. I'm surprised Boston puts up with it.

I went back and read yelp reviews and saw a string of them from this viral situation, but many more reaching back to last year echoing similar circumstances. Appears to be a legitimately terrible place.
Aren't Bostonians kinda ornery? Maybe this isn't such a huge faux pas locally, or it's been accepted as her shtick. What Bostonian doesn't like sticking it to a New Yawker? :p
The restaurant's rating in Google is 4.5, so it can't be that bad (I didn't check Yelp). In the Boston .com article she claims they are very busy, so the bad press hasn't hurt them yet.

More generally, there was a time when business policy was "the customer is always right." In 2024, that isn't universally accepted anymore and this owner relishes antagonizing her critics. Like you, I'd never support a business like that but apparently others are more flexible.
 
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Aren't Bostonians kinda ornery? Maybe this isn't such a huge faux pas locally, or it's been accepted as her shtick. What Bostonian doesn't like sticking it to a New Yawker? :p
The restaurant's rating in Google is 4.5, so it can't be that bad (I didn't check Yelp). In the Boston .com article she claims they are very busy, so the bad press hasn't hurt them yet.

More generally, there was a time when business policy was "the customer is always right." In 2024, that isn't universally accepted anymore and this owner relishes antagonizing her critics. Like you, I'd never support a business like that but apparently others are more flexible.
Who knows. I'm guessing they had money and decided to make a business....most restaurant owners I've dealt with in the past in a joint like that are real entitled jerks (in general) and it would seem they're just trying to maximize profits without being nice about it. Charging someone a cancellation fee is one thing, but $125 per person is kind of stupid.
 
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Appears to be a legitimately terrible place.
The restaurant's rating in Google is 4.5, so it can't be that bad (I didn't check Yelp). In the Boston .com article she claims they are very busy, so the bad press hasn't hurt them yet... ....Like you, I'd never support a business like that but apparently others are more flexible.

It must be good food, unless people are only going there to brag about going there, like a local status symbol or something.

I think it's more likely that it's legitimately good dining. It just has a vindictive c*nt owner with not just terrible social skills but temper as well. Obviously can't handle any criticisms, valid or not. She's the owner, but also the chef.
 

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Google says it’s permanently closed. Did that change since you posted? I can’t imagine they were making ends meet if the restaurant had to shut down over a $250 cancellation fee chargeback.
 

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Updated story from the Daily Mail.

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Apparently she’s now getting death threats? Jesus. It’s just a snotty restaurant owner. More common than you might think in the Northeast. We’re all rude sumbitches. No need to threaten her life.
 
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Google says it’s permanently closed. Did that change since you posted? I can’t imagine they were making ends meet if the restaurant had to shut down over a $250 cancellation fee chargeback.
Business owners will change the open status to permanently closed to stop review bombing. They're still open and taking reservations.
 
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Updated story from the Daily Mail.

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Apparently she’s now getting death threats? Jesus. It’s just a snotty restaurant owner. More common than you might think in the Northeast. We’re all rude sumbitches. No need to threaten her life.
Apparently, the potential patron is also getting death threats. Such a stupid story to go threatening death on anyone.
 

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Apparently, the potential patron is also getting death threats. Such a stupid story to go threatening death on anyone.
I agree. People can have an opinion but who gets so invested they have to threaten someone’s life? Ridiculous. Seems like people these days need to grow some thicker skin. I wonder if it has to do with how kids are getting raised? Any form of criticism is considered taboo. Everybody gets a trophy. Teachers are told they can’t grade papers with red ink because it’s too harsh on the kids fragile egos. Don’t dare yell at them when they misbehave in class. Parent’s immediately defend their kids when the school is telling them the kid is fucking up. It’s getting real stupid and I think we’re seeing the results. A little more discipline goes a long way.
 
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I agree. People can have an opinion but who gets so invested they have to threaten someone’s life? Ridiculous. Seems like people these days need to grow some thicker skin. I wonder if it has to do with how kids are getting raised? Any form of criticism is considered taboo. Everybody gets a trophy. Teachers are told they can’t grade papers with red ink because it’s too harsh on the kids fragile egos. Don’t dare yell at them when they misbehave in class. Parent’s immediately defend their kids when the school is telling them the kid is fucking up. It’s getting real stupid and I think we’re seeing the results. A little more discipline goes a long way.
I don't think it's an issue of "kids these days". It's the anonymity that the Internet provides that enables people to act off their baser instincts and just be a complete jerks.
 
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