They are amazing, but people on here are so blinded by their hate for everything Beats. So I thought I'd bring up a couple "respected" audio names. Bluetooth + an apt-X source you won't be able to tell tell the difference between wired and wireless. Both my Senn's & Klipsch support it and I'd say especially the Senn's sound reasonably close to my Grado SR 225i's, which are the best sounding pair I have. They sound so good they replaced my Audio Technica ATH-M50's for my go to cans. I have a closet full of headphones, I guess I'm somewhat of a collector. I honestly can't remember the last time I used a wired pair. My Beats win out because they easily have the best blend of comfort and SQ.
Bluetooth & A2DP use to blow monkey balls, but the technology has come along way. IMHO apt-X is the future of wireless audio.The downside is to get the level of SQ that's on par with wired isn't cheap. My Senn's cost as much as my 3 favorite wired pairs combined. So there's definitely a big trade-off.
I wouldn't say blinded makes any sense. They built a reputation, not for quality sound, but for essentially jewelry. I haven't seen any thorough tests for the bluetooth Beats, so I'll remain skeptical until I see otherwise.
I'd have figured you for a basshead so I'm pretty surprised that you really go for Grado sound. I have a hunch it might be the open baffle that is what you're liking, as all the other headphones you've mentioned are closed.
It has come a long way, but that's because it was just awful before. Like I said, its fine if they work well for you but there's absolutely some limitations. Its possible plenty of people would be ok with though. But plenty of people are ok with ibuds too.
Hey I have a pair of Beats. It's true however that people love to knock on popular trends and it's obvious to point out the people that actually never really owned or experienced whatever it is they are ragging on. Beats in particular are expensive compared to some but many of those others don't use silver cladded OFC shielded cable, all metal housings and glossy paint either. Everything has trade offs but they do sound equal quality in comparison to my Ultrasones in that it produces all the frequencies and achieves the full harmonics in recording but warmer which is my personal preference for sound. It's like boring vs exciting.
Most important thing to remember about audio is that everyone listens differently. What frequencies and even specific instruments and ranges they notice vs what they don't notice or physically can't hear are the roots that divide everyone's opinion on what sounds good. Most people can't even listen enough to what someone is saying to repeat it word for word much less listen to music completely.
My condolences.
Actually Beats aren't that expensive (there are a lot of headphones in the $300+ range), the problem is they're ~$100 in quality (if that really) that are sold for much more because of some glossy paint and them catering to people that don't know headphones.
Yeah, too bad they might have put all that in and then skimped on a poor housing and driver which is by far the thing that you most need to get right when it comes to headphones. You basically just described why Beats are such a joke, its flash and style over substance.
Ultrasones aren't exactly considered great either. They have their own gimmick. They're really hit and miss.
Sorry that's immaterial, as we can measure how they sound. That's no guarantee that it will still sound good but there's a very strong correlation, especially when you know what measurements tend to be exhibited by good sounding headphones.
What sucks about Bluetooth A2DP from a digital source? Bit rate?
There's several. Namely, bluetooth will be wireless, so it'll suffer from the same problems other wireless headphones have (it'll have to have an amp and DAC within the headphone, deal with battery issues, wireless problems such as transmission distance, etc). Then couple that with syncing issues (I don't have a need to bother with bluetooth but I see a lot of complaints about bluetooth audio syncing problems, especially in portable setups). And yeah bitrate, although that's apparently changing and I don't think it would be that big of an issue. Maybe latency but I don't know.
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