How much to declaw a cat? ***UPDATE***

[pyonir]

<< If I post a thread asking the best way to accomplish something that is considered to be wrong, cruel, inhumane, whatever, should people only answer my original question, or would it be considered relatively normal to attempt to dissuade me from my intent? >>


yeah, i mean if someone posts a thread asking what good raps songs are out there...80% of the posts are gonna be "Rap sucks" or "rap = crap". he wasn't asking if it was right or wrong, he was asking the cost. it is considered wrong, cruel and inhumane by some, but some don't see it that way either.

kinda funny...not answering the orginal question when it comes to something like my "rap" example is called crapping, but saying Lucky is inhumane and wrong and cruel in this thread is considered ok and "helping him see the light".

just my two cents

 

[MichaelD]

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<< I will never for the life of me, understand why people keep destructive pets! My buddy's new dog completely destroyed a $4,000 leather living room set in one morning. I would've blown the dogs brains out, right there in the middle of the living room. One shotgun shell later, no more problems. That's not cruel; it's a fact >>


Forgive me, but I hope you never own a pet. Pets are high maintenance. They do things for a reason. If an animal gets destructive, killing it will not solve the problem. When you take an animal into your home, you take on the responsibility for it's welfare and care. If a two year old breaks your favorite antique vase that's been in the family for generations, do you shoot the two year old? Of course not, and you need to remember that a lot of animals have the equivalent of two year old mentality. Find the root of the problem and solve it, do not blame or punish the animal for letting the owner know that something's wrong. >>




No offense taken. There are cats and dogs, and then there are destructive cats and dogs. I know many folks that have a cat/dog/both that are very well trained and never destroy anything. Personally, I wouldn't keep a destructive pet. Oh, and I do own pets. Non-destructive ones. Three snakes and some little fishies. My snakes are my little buddies. Well, they're not actually little

 

[Rallispec]

i still like my soft paws idea the best. It is cheap and doesnt hurt the cat. And i can speak from experience that they work great.

 

[Lucky]

<< i still like my soft paws idea the best. It is cheap and doesnt hurt the cat. And i can speak from experience that they work great. >>




fair enough, but as I said, 2 vets told me the claw caps were innefective. (in terms of when they fall off, the time needed to continously be putting new ones on, etc.).

 

[Goosemaster]

<< How much to declaw a cat? >>




you fing bastard



fing is for "felinedeclawing"

 

[Jzero]

<< i would not compare shooting people to declawing cats. That would be like comparing shooting people to killing cattle for food. Better stop eating those burgers. >>


LMAO
You said this to be ironic, right?
B/c you bemoaned people criticizing and not answering the question and then when ViperGTS asked you a question, you didn't answer it, right?

RIGHT?

MichaelD, you mention "destructive" pets, but any pet that roams the house freely has the potential to be destructive. You specifically stated your buddy's "new dog" tore up his furniture.
Well if it's a new dog, then it's fairly safe to assume that A)it's a puppy and is obviously not trained yet or B)he adopted it, so there's no way to know just how well-trained the dog was.
In either case, I'd fault your buddy for allowing a new pet to get within paw's-reach of expensive furniture before I fault a dog for doing what dogs do.

I am much the same way, though. My apartment allows me to have one cat. Every once in awhile I think maybe I'll get a little kitten. They're cute and fun to play with and all that.
But then I think about coming home from work and finding the rice-paper divider I use to block off my closet full of little claw-holes.
Or scratches in my nice oak aquarium stand.
Scratches in my leather office chair.
A turd on my kitchen table.
A stanky litter-box somewhere in my small studio apartment.

No matter how well-trained an animal is, they can ALWAYS get into mischief. I'll stick to fish for the time being. If they get loose, somehow, they just croak.
hehe

 

[Ultima]

<< I was under the impression it usually cost about $200, but today I scheduled my cat for the procedure and they told me it would only be $70 or so. Im now concerned my vet may be cutting corners. How much did you pay? >>



I didn't pay anything cause we've never declawed one of our cats. We've never felt the need, as we take care of our cats and have nothing to fear from them
If you do it, NEVER let him outside. It's very inhumane as you're taking away his only means of self defense.

 

[Lucky]

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If you do it, NEVER let him outside. It's very inhumane as you're taking away his only means of self defense. >>




Its interesting you say that. I'd never let my cat outside, but....my stepmom does. He's a real hardy cat, sometimes doesnt come back for a day or two but i wouldnt call it an "outside" cat. He's gotten in several fights, two of which we have seen, and he comes out the winner (apparently) in all of them, even though he is declawed. He got his nose clawed up once in a fight we saw, but he kicked the other cats ass and left him bleeding more than himself.

 

[Azraele]

<< He's gotten in several fights, two of which we have seen, and he comes out the winner (apparently) in all of them, even though he is declawed. >>


This is just wrong in all sorts of ways. What if he had a run in with a cat he can't handle, or even a dog? Not too long ago, I rushed my neighbor's cat to the vets (she wouldn't :| ) because he'd had half of his tongue ripped off in what we think was a fight. I've seen other cats that have been in fights and they have won, but winning comes at a price. Teeth are not always enough, if a cat is going to be exposed to the dangers of the outside world, then it needs every available outlet at its disposal to help protect it.

 

[Sephy]

I didn't realize I was posting on the PETA forum.

 

[Entity]

<< I didn't realize I was posting on the PETA forum. >>


You aren't; it's just that declawing is almost universally agreed upon as being a cruel treatment of an animal.

Rob

 

[pyonir]

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<< I didn't realize I was posting on the PETA forum. >>


You aren't; it's just that declawing is almost universally agreed upon as being a cruel treatment of an animal.

Rob >>


then why is it legal (for the most part) and still being done?

 

[Viper GTS]

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<< I didn't realize I was posting on the PETA forum. >>


You aren't; it's just that declawing is almost universally agreed upon as being a cruel treatment of an animal.

Rob >>


then why is it legal (for the most part) and still being done? >>



There are lots of things that are legal that probably shouldn't be done, this one should be a no-brainer - Do you really need the government to tell you so to know that ripping your cat's toes off isn't a nice thing to do?

Viper GTS

 

[pyonir]

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<< I didn't realize I was posting on the PETA forum. >>


You aren't; it's just that declawing is almost universally agreed upon as being a cruel treatment of an animal.

Rob >>


then why is it legal (for the most part) and still being done? >>



There are lots of things that are legal that probably shouldn't be done, this one should be a no-brainer - Do you really need the government to tell you so to know that ripping your cat's toes off isn't a nice thing to do?

Viper GTS >>


the toes and claws are seperate.

 

[Azraele]

<< the toes and claws are seperate. >>


This procedure doesn't just take the claw, it takes the toe at the first joint.

 

[Jzero]

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<< I didn't realize I was posting on the PETA forum. >>


You aren't; it's just that declawing is almost universally agreed upon as being a cruel treatment of an animal.

Rob >>


then why is it legal (for the most part) and still being done? >>



There are lots of things that are legal that probably shouldn't be done, this one should be a no-brainer - Do you really need the government to tell you so to know that ripping your cat's toes off isn't a nice thing to do?

Viper GTS >>


the toes and claws are seperate. >>


Somebody didn't read the links....

 

[Entity]

<< the toes and claws are seperate. >>


You may want to read up on this subject a bit before continuing posting. Here you go:



<< Removal of the last digits of the toes drastically alters the conformation of their feet and causes the feet to meet the ground at an unnatural angle that can cause back pain similar to that in humans caused by wearing improper shoes. >>



Rob

 

[Viper GTS]

<< the toes and claws are seperate. >>



Have you actually looked at the diagrams?

Here you go, one click

If they just eliminated the claw itself, I might not have a problem with it.

That is not, however, the case. How you can say that in good conscience is beyond me.

Viper GTS

 

[pyonir]

Ok. i looked over the links. so they are saying that the tip of the toe is amputated. is that done in 100% of the cases? i doubt it. i looks like the easy and cheap way to do it. that is why you can have it done for $75. the links are obviously animal rights groups and frankly i don't trust all of the info they produce. i found nothing on the American Veterinary Medical Association website that said it was cruel and dangerous.
I'm not going to argue about this because:
1) arguing about what is and isn't cruel is a judgement call (in this case)
2) many people i know have had this done to their cats and have not had ANY problems
3) there are not enough unbiased facts to render a 'correct' decision
4) i'm not going to change any of your minds and you are not going to change mine
5) i just don't care enough about the topic to do anymore arguing or searching, if i have a cat and it is having problems controlling itself as far as clawing up furniture (which my cats i left at my parents house don't and are not declawed) then i will have this procedure done and i don't feel it makes me any less of a loving owner of my cat.

since this is my last post in this thread: go ahead now and call me ignorant, cruel, hateful, not worthy of owning pets etc etc. and continue to use this against me in other threads like i am certain some of you will. Frankly, i don't really care. Good day to you all...

 

[Azraele]

<< it is having problems controlling itself >>


I know your stance on the issue, but I have a problem with this statement. First, cats scratch because of natural instinct/impulse. Second, you act as if the cat has a mind that can reason on a human level. The cat is simply doing what instinct tells it to do. You as the owner must either redirect that instinct (buy a cat tree or scratching post) or train the cat otherwise. You cannot simply go up to your kitty and say "control your scratching impulses" and expect it to stop.

 

[Aceman]

I agree with all of pyonir's points. My cat is declawed in the front. We puposely looked for a declawed cat when we adopted him at the Humane Society. He was a barn cat. (Now I found that odd and somewhat stupid.) Our cat does not seemed phased by being declawed. He catches mice and defends himself (Usually instigates the attack) against our two dogs.

 

[Ultima]

mlah. 99% of people who declaw their cats just don't know how to take care of them. Wonder what kind of parents they are, as well, if their solution is to evade the problem?

 

[BooneRebel]

<< mlah. 99% of people who declaw their cats just don't know how to take care of them. Wonder what kind of parents they are, as well, if their solution is to evade the problem? >>

Guess all parents with declawed cats should put their kids up for adoption, hmmm?

 

[rufruf44]

<< mlah. 99% of people who declaw their cats just don't know how to take care of them. Wonder what kind of parents they are, as well, if their solution is to evade the problem? >>



Moronic response like this, and you wonder why PETA got such a bad rep?

 

[dawks]

You may want to check with your local authorities about the legality of this issue in your particular area. I know its illegal in my area, and in several parts of the US.

Not only is it illegal in my area, its sick :disgust: