how much more of this can we as a society take?

Binarycow

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http://kfor.com/2013/07/30/police-release-surveillance-photos-from-store-clerk-murder/

These scumbags day in and day out mug/rob/kill innocent hard-working people for a few bucks instead of of putting in a honest day of labor like everyone else. That POS looks like he's more than physically capable of overturning a tractor on his own and yet does not have the decency to do something useful for himself or the society.

How much more of this can we as a society take?
 
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woolfe9998

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Crime is way down over the past 20 years. It's unclear how a single incident would prompt anyone rational to query

How much more of this can we as a society take?
 

nextJin

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I'll give people 3 guesses on 3 things:

Race
Political Leanings
Legally owned firearm
 

Binarycow

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What, random acts of violence? I suppose you have a solution.

theres nothing random about it. You watch your nightly local news lately? I do, and it has become to the point of being oh so predictable.

Do I have a solution? yea I do, but it will get me in trouble just to say it here much less carrying it out. Look at Zimmerman if you dont believe me.
 

gevorg

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24/7/365 drone surveillance + mandatory chipping of everyone

no need for any profiling, everyone is a suspect, and everyone is safe
 

Svnla

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Where are all the marching, screaming, and outrage for this cold blood murder victim? Oh, never mind, carry on... <look at the victim name and color>
 
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theres nothing random about it. You watch your nightly local news lately? I do, and it has become to the point of being oh so predictable.

Do I have a solution? yea I do, but it will get me in trouble just to say it here much less carrying it out. Look at Zimmerman if you dont believe me.

So despite the fact that violent crime has been lessening over the past 30 years, you're convinced it's a serious concern because of your viewership of television news. I think the problem that needs answering isn't "what is to be done about all this violence" but "what is to be done when the most active news viewers in the country are the least informed citizens?" Shouldn't the news be reporting reality in an accurate way?
 

justoh

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http://kfor.com/2013/07/30/police-release-surveillance-photos-from-store-clerk-murder/

These scumbags day in and day out mug/rob/kill innocent hard-working people for a few bucks instead of of putting in a honest day of labor like everyone else. That POS looks like he's more than physically capable of overturning a tractor on his own and yet does not have the decency to do something useful for himself or the society.

How much more of this can we as a society take?

Why turn over a tractor, when you could this:

Crane-ception-e1340470167121.jpeg


Talk about being useful.
 
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If I ran a retail establishment I would absolutely ban hoodies.


Almost every single violent crime involves a thug wearing a hoodie in deep cover.
 

Nintendesert

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The solution is to stop watching the news. That will take care of your perceived crime problem.
 

berzerker60

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Violent crime is way down since the 1990s, and some places in Europe survived both Genghis Kahn and the Black Plague once upon a time, so I should imagine we could survive with considerably more.
 

Attic

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Thought for sure i'd come into to see this.

U.S. Accuses JPMorgan of Manipulating Energy Markets

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/07/29/energy-regulator-details-case-against-jpmorgan/?_r=0

To transform the power plants into profit generators, the agency contends, JPMorgan’s traders adopted eight different “schemes” from September 2010 to June 2011. Under the plan, the traders offered the electricity at prices that appeared falsely attractive to state energy authorities. The effort prompted authorities in California and Michigan to make excessive payments that helped drive up energy prices, the regulator said.
The settlement could cost the bank as much as $500 million, people briefed on the matter said. Accusations of market manipulation surfaced this spring in a confidential commission document, reviewed by The New York Times, which outlined a pattern of illegal trading in the electricity markets of California and Michigan. The document, a warning that investigators would recommend civil charges, also contended that a senior JPMorgan executive, Blythe Masters, gave “false and misleading statements” under oath. Ms. Masters, however, was not included in the regulator’s formal notice on Monday. JPMorgan denies that she made false statements under oath.

Yes, they manipulated the energy markets. Criminals should do jail time, not negotiate paltry fines against the backdrop of massive profiteering.
 

monovillage

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Isn't it funny that the same people that are saying crime is "way down" are exactly the same people that say the US incarcerates too many criminals.
 

Jaskalas

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theres nothing random about it. You watch your nightly local news lately? I do, and it has become to the point of being oh so predictable.

I suppose I could point out Chicago and suggest that's not random at all. Yet I don't live there. Is Chicago crime still a threat to me? I hope you're not suggesting anything generalized or stereotyped to a particular segment of the population. If for no other reason than there a good honest people from all parts that need our help. Who would join us against violent thugs of all color.

Do I have a solution? yea I do, but it will get me in trouble just to say it here much less carrying it out. Look at Zimmerman if you dont believe me.
I believe you may already concealed carry, or at least the general population can. To protect yourself from becoming a Zimmerman, document your life. Grab a cell phone and record when something goes down. The reason people can attack Zimmerman is due to the lack of evidence.
 

berzerker60

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Isn't it funny that the same people that are saying crime is "way down" are exactly the same people that say the US incarcerates too many criminals.
It does. The first one isn't an argument, it's an objective fact. FBI statistics are easy to google. Saying the US incarcerates too many people is an argument rather than a fact, but considering we jail way, way more than all but a very small handful of oppressive, authoritarian countries on a per capita basis...
Land of the Free, people!
 

dank69

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Isn't it funny that the same people that are saying crime is "way down" are exactly the same people that say the US incarcerates too many criminals.
No, the real joke (besides the OP) is that you think the two beliefs are mutually exclusive. Also, when you say "the US incarcerates too many criminals," what you mean is "the US incarcerates too many non-violent criminals," a distinction all but the most dim-witted understand.
 

monovillage

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No, the real joke (besides the OP) is that you think the two beliefs are mutually exclusive. Also, when you say "the US incarcerates too many criminals," what you mean is "the US incarcerates too many non-violent criminals," a distinction all but the most dim-witted understand.

I don't think that the US incarcerates too many criminals, I think they execute far too few.
 

woolfe9998

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I don't think that the US incarcerates too many criminals, I think they execute far too few.

So you support the drug war, which is where the largest portion of those incarcerated are drawn from? End the drug war right now and there's no argument that we incarcerate too many people.

As for the declining crime rate, it's a fact.
 

Jhhnn

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No, the real joke (besides the OP) is that you think the two beliefs are mutually exclusive. Also, when you say "the US incarcerates too many criminals," what you mean is "the US incarcerates too many non-violent criminals," a distinction all but the most dim-witted understand.

You don't really need to be dim-witted, you just need an intellect tainted by absorption of too much right wing propaganda.

Like alcoholics, these people aren't stupid- they're afflicted.
 

Jhhnn

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I don't think that the US incarcerates too many criminals, I think they execute far too few.

Nothing like a little self righteous blood lust to brighten up the day, huh?

Countries who don't execute anybody have lower murder rates, and states w/o the death penalty have lower murder rates than states who do.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state#MRord

Not that you'll allow facts to interfere with the formulation of your opinions. Why change now, right?