how much/mo is minimum for living in SoCal?

[kyutip]

Why don't you try to live in a dorm ?
It is definitely cheaper but you probably have to have a roomate.

I couldn't begin to imagine your problems at home.

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: kyutip
Why don't you try to live in a dorm ?
It is definitely cheaper but you probably have to have a roomate.

I couldn't begin to imagine your problems at home.

dorms got filled before they were even built. there is no room.

 

[KEV1N]

Originally posted by: yoda291
if you really hate your family that much. just leave. Don't take the 500, don't say a word to anyone...just pack up the crap that is actually yours and leave. Shack up with some friends while you grab some manual work and can afford your own place and branch out. bickering with the family accomplishes nothing and it's glaringly obvious you aren't open to communicating calmly with them. So long as you live under your father's dime and eat the fruits of his labor, you really don't have much of a foot to stand on in terms of who's being unfair to who.

You might not want to burn bridges at this point in your life. Don't make hasty decisions and keep in mind that you are far from self sufficient at this point.

 

[kyutip]

What you want is close to impossible to have without some work on your part.
You want the cake and eat it too. Some people here gave you good advice and you dismiss them all.
You don't want a roomate, yet you only have $500 and don't seem to have any other income.
You can live with your parent, yet you can't stand them and want to leave them.
Just enter your name in the waiting list for the dorm spot, but it's unlikely since you don't like other people living with you.

Have you ever consider that the problems lie with you, rather than with your parents?
This is what you want exactly. You want $2,000 a month so you can live by yourself nicely and don't have to deal with others, but you want your father to foot the bill.

If this is not what you want, then go find a job and you can live the way you want to live.

 

[SoyBoy004]

Originally posted by: phreakah
i'm moving into a studio in westwood w/ my gf and it's gonna be 700/mo each just for rent/utilities alone

 

[SoyBoy004]

Originally posted by: phreakah
i'm moving into a studio in westwood w/ my gf and it's gonna be 700/mo each just for rent/utilities alone

yeah. that sounds about right...

 

[amnesiac]

For the record, my brother used to have a lot.
Wife, two cars, house, and half the family business.

Now, my dad is a notoriously stubborn and hard-headed individual but he is not impossible to live with. However, my brother was too prideful and stubborn himself to ever admit his mistakes, and this conflict drove them apart and my brother to heroin. Last month, at the age of 40, my brother died penniless and alone, of a drug-related illness.

There are regrets all around, most notably the "what if..." my brother had sucked it up and controlled his selfish and stubborn behavior.

Pride is a dangerous thing. Be careful what you say.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Don't live in Southern California.

You can get a multi-room apartment, cable, power, and water for $500/mo here in southern Indiana. It's not a happening place, but we have pretty much everything here:

Theme park
Multiple Universities
Lots of nature parks
Broadband

Be smart with the money your dad gives you. Use it to save up and build some wealth.

Edit: Also, southern Indiana is what I like to call "Old Time American". Lots of churches, a very 50s society. That's one of the things I like about it. It's a (for the most part) very moral area.

If you want to lead a completely mundane and "moral" (read: holier than thou bible thumpers telling you how to live even though this state once had the most KKK members in the US) life then by all means move to Indiana. If you actually want to experience life I'd suggest moving else where. Indiana is kinda like the Matrix. As long as you don't push the boundries and are content w/the crap you are given you'll be happy here.


Lethal

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: kyutip
What you want is close to impossible to have without some work on your part.
You want the cake and eat it too. Some people here gave you good advice and you dismiss them all.
You don't want a roomate, yet you only have $500 and don't seem to have any other income.
You can live with your parent, yet you can't stand them and want to leave them.
Just enter your name in the waiting list for the dorm spot, but it's unlikely since you don't like other people living with you.

Have you ever consider that the problems lie with you, rather than with your parents?
This is what you want exactly. You want $2,000 a month so you can live by yourself nicely and don't have to deal with others, but you want your father to foot the bill.

If this is not what you want, then go find a job and you can live the way you want to live.

i dont object to working. but i dont know anywhere where i could make enough money with a very erratic schedule to make living...

 

[Chaotic42]

The only place I'd hate to live in more than Indiana is California.

Besides, he seems to be having some problems, and Indiana sounds a lot better than where he is now.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
The only place I'd hate to live in more than Indiana is California.

Besides, he seems to be having some problems, and Indiana sounds a lot better than where he is now.

I think Indiana would be a good place to "catch your breath" but I could never stand to live here my whole life. I was out in LA for ~8 months before I completlely ran outta cash and drove back on my credit cards (never knew McDonald's took plastic before ) and I'm planning on going back in a few months. The idea of teaching at my old college (Ball State) and retiring here seems plausible, but I'll need to spend 30 or 40 years some place else before Indiana will start looking appealing again.


Lethal

 

[deerslayer]

Originally posted by: amnesiac
I'm sorry dude, but even though your dad seems to fly off the handle easily, you blow up even worse. In fact, you're an ass, and no better than him if that's how your exchanges go.

You catch more flies with sugar than vinegar, remember that.

Sometimes you have to tuck away your pride and admit you were wrong, even if it means taking a step or two backwards. For fvck's sake, the man gave you food, shelter, and education for 18 years. At least be grateful for that. Plus, at least he's giving you money to live on. I know people whose parents greeted them at the door with packed bags when they turned 18, and said "you're an adult. Find a job and a place. See ya."

No sh!t. When you talk to your father like that what do you expect? If I were him, I would have kicked your disrespectful ass out a long time ago, and I sure as hell woudln't be giving you $500 a month. :disgust:

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: LethalWolfe


I think Indiana would be a good place to "catch your breath" but I could never stand to live here my whole life. I was out in LA for ~8 months before I completlely ran outta cash and drove back on my credit cards (never knew McDonald's took plastic before ) and I'm planning on going back in a few months. The idea of teaching at my old college (Ball State) and retiring here seems plausible, but I'll need to spend 30 or 40 years some place else before Indiana will start looking appealing again.


Lethal

Don't get me wrong, I hate Indiana. I also moved here to catch my breath. Once I leave, I hope I never come back. It is cheap to live in, but the people here have no culture or personality, and there aren't many hot girls here.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
The only place I'd hate to live in more than Indiana is California.

Besides, he seems to be having some problems, and Indiana sounds a lot better than where he is now.

Indiana > Florida > California. In my experience living and working in Indiana while going to college... people in Indiana are pretty darn stupid. But then again, the county I was in was one of the worst in the state in terms of poverty, teenage pregnancy, etc. Indianapolis is a very nice, clean city, and I'd rather live on Meridian Street than most other places in this country.

Walleye - cut your losses, move to Indiana.

 

[Chaotic42]

Orange County, IN?

 

[mugs]

Grant County (one of the worst, not the worst). There's an Orange County in Indiana? Jeez, that place was doomed from the get go.

 

[Chaotic42]

Orange County, the county directly to the south of Lawrence County (where I live) consistently has the highest unemployment and has hundreds of drug arests per year. It's extremely hilly, so they can't get any infrastructure there.

 

[mugs]

Woah woah woah... you say there's HILLS in Indiana now? j/k. Well you said you're down in southern Indiana - it doesn't surprise me that the areas closer to Kentucky would be that bad. Can you get Ale81 down there? People at my college went nuts over that stuff...

 

[Chaotic42]

Are there hills?

I'm lucky if I don't freaking slide into a ravine in the winter. There are cliffs and huge drop-offs everywhere. My car can't make it up some hills in the winter.

My roomate had a 6-pack of Ale81, but he drank all of it. I've never had it, but it exists.

What I *can't* get here is sweet tea. :|

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Are there hills?

I'm lucky if I don't freaking slide into a ravine in the winter. There are cliffs and huge drop-offs everywhere. My car can't make it up some hills in the winter.

My roomate had a 6-pack of Ale81, but he drank all of it. I've never had it, but it exists.

What I *can't* get here is sweet tea. :|

Cliffs? In Indiana? A steep hill or a gravel pit does not equal a cliff. Ravine I'll give you but cliff is pushing it abit don't you think?


Lethal

 

[EvilYoda]

Are you just seeing where you can live solely with what he gives you per month, and you can afford more, or are you somehow completely unable to get a job to pay for a better place? I'm just curious and all, to see what your situation is...as for tuition/books and gas, how are those things paid for?

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: LethalWolfe


Cliffs? In Indiana? A steep hill or a gravel pit does not equal a cliff. Ravine I'll give you but cliff is pushing it abit don't you think?


Lethal

Well, I don't know if they are man made, like abandoned quarries or what not, but they are here.

I think I have a pic I took at Spring Mill State park, if you're interested. There are lots of caves and cliffs and things. Not thousands of feet deep, but still a cliff.

Also, I grew up in Biloxi, MS. Elevation 0ft, so what someone from Colorado might call flat, I call mountainous.

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Are you just seeing where you can live solely with what he gives you per month, and you can afford more, or are you somehow completely unable to get a job to pay for a better place? I'm just curious and all, to see what your situation is...as for tuition/books and gas, how are those things paid for?

i'm good for tuition/books because of a few scholarships i got in high school... that will at least get me thru 1 year... gas is paid on a credit card, and my brother and sister both got a gas card, i got one too.


i dont know where to start looking for a job... i would certainly prefer to be able to afford living on 500/mo for everything, and then just working to get money for me, but that wont happen, i know.


i dont care where i live. a bed, a bathroom, and a kitchen are enough for me.

 

[0roo0roo]

your judgement sounds scary. even if your mother was a whore, you shouldn't call her that unless she beats you or something why in the world is she a whore anyways? where you a mistake? and don't bite the hand that feeds you, you bite after your free and clear. simple logic, yet it seems to evade you. sure you might bite hard after all the repression, but its better that way.

fact is, the bank balance is heavy in their favor, it takes 250?k+ half mil? depends on the source of info to raise a kid for 18 years.

get roommates, lots, live in a dive. work and go to school at the same time. 500 could probably cover your portion of the rent and nothing else, rest is work.

 

[Chaotic42]

Ok, I'll ask. Are you sure there is no way that you can repair things with your parents?