how much is this 800 serie BW speaker?
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ultimatebob
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B&W speakers are usually pretty good. You're in the wrong forum, though... Try the AV forum instead.
Whoozyerdaddy
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They are unbelievable... religious.
The old (pre- 2006) 800s were 16-20k depending on the cabinet finish. These guys will be in the same price range. To quote Ferris Bueller: "If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."
You'll need a good amp to run them though. It's not just buying the speakers. You'll need Krell or Theta or Levinson or (you know) to make them sing.
But yeah... They are amazing
16-20K? wow! i could buy a brand new car with that money.
16-20K for how many speakers? the whole set 5.1 , 7.1?
16-20K for how many speakers? the whole set 5.1 , 7.1?
Whoozyerdaddy
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For the pair.
I sold several sets of those speakers before I moved on from the industry. A full theater with those speakers as the center piece ran about $100k (including projector, amps, head end, room design, etc)
Edit: Should point out that there are speakers out there that cost a helluva lot more than those do... even from B&W. (Nautilus - which I have also installed)
Whoozyerdaddy
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n00b... you can easily get surround sound for $16k... really good suround sound. Just not with those speakers. Don't dog the price until you hear them. Find a dealer and ask for a demo. Then you'll understand.
AFAIK:
800D costs 20k$
801D costs 16k$
802D costs 12k$
803D costs 8k$
803S costs 6k$
804S costs 4k$
805S costs 2.5k$
They are nice speakers, not for everybody, but they are nice. I personally own the 804S and for my needs, they do the job well. Since speakers are a very subjective thing, many things can come into the picture when deciding on if they are worth the price or not. Ideally, sound quality would be the only deciding factor, but looks and prestige sometime enter the picture and this is where the price can vary greatly.
800D costs 20k$
801D costs 16k$
802D costs 12k$
803D costs 8k$
803S costs 6k$
804S costs 4k$
805S costs 2.5k$
They are nice speakers, not for everybody, but they are nice. I personally own the 804S and for my needs, they do the job well. Since speakers are a very subjective thing, many things can come into the picture when deciding on if they are worth the price or not. Ideally, sound quality would be the only deciding factor, but looks and prestige sometime enter the picture and this is where the price can vary greatly.
of course u can get surround sound out of 16k, u can even get a whole set 5.1 at best buy for $250. are u on crack? im referring to 16k for just a pair of 800 series. thats sad.
It's not sad.
Speakers of this level are simply mind blowing. I've heard these models as well. It's just a whole 'nother world of sound reproduction.
Also, keep in mind that I think all of lucasfilms surround mixing studios use these as their reference (800 or 801s I think). And in all honesty, people do have hobbies and hobbies can be expensive.
well...if u have 16k to spend, would u spend it on a pair of 800 bw speakers or 16k on a 7.1 system?
If you have the 16K to spend on the pair are you really worried about how much the rest of the speakers cost
. BTW our HT had 803S in the front, 805S in the rear and an HTM2 for the center. No need for the movie theater. Try listening to them before you say it's sad.
AgaBoogaBoo
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Yeah, after a certain point, it's a very small marginal gain, IMO. I've tried listening to more exotic/expensive speakers but they don't do anything for me.
EvilYoda
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My most recent trip to Chicago was partially to help a friend hunt for new speakers...just for fun, we went into the shop's reference room and they had big Maggie's on one wall and the other they had these 800D's set up with Ayre components and a nice VPI table. Not the best system I've heard, but it is the best I've heard in a while.
That said...B&W's have never been my cup of tea. I dunno, I've never been too partial to English speakers.
That said...B&W's have never been my cup of tea. I dunno, I've never been too partial to English speakers.
Music isn't done with the band all around you. Most times a nice stereo like this you have a separate home theater with surround sound. One for music, one for movies/games, etc.
Not everything is a movie. There's a lot of two channel stuff out there, you know on CD and horror of horrors, LP. Some people even have two systems, one surround, one two channel so they don't have to compromise. Who woulda thunk it:Q
They're good, probably not $16,000 good however. A solid pair of ~$3000 active monitors would easily surpass any passive speaker in sound quality. World class sound doesn't cost world class dollars anymore.
Even so, I'm still partial towards electrostatic headphones with personalized HRTF, this would leave pretty much all speaker configurations, active or otherwise trailing, and it's even cheaper still.
Even so, I'm still partial towards electrostatic headphones with personalized HRTF, this would leave pretty much all speaker configurations, active or otherwise trailing, and it's even cheaper still.
Whoozyerdaddy
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Any? No. No they wont.
There's a lot to be said about active monitors and the advantages they carry. And yes they can sound better than passive speakers that cost more. But better than ANY passive speaker? :laugh:
I don't think you've ever heard a set of 800's hooked up to a pair of Krell FPB-600s with a Wadia CD and Krell CAST pre-amp. A $3000 pair of active monitors can't touch that... not even close.
I heard them on an FPB-300 out of a Lynx Two. Very nice sound, don't get me wrong, a studio I've been to used them as reference monitors. However that same studio also had a pair of Adam Audio S2A as mixing and mastering monitors, which were only a small fraction of the total cost of the B&W config, and it was unanimous that the Adam Audios outperformed the B&Ws in every conceivable aspect of sound reproduction with the exception of bass extension.
The problem with passive speakers is the electrical component bottleneck. It doesn't matter what kind of ridiculous budget you throw into transducer R&D, the returns will be very diminishing running through passive filters.
Price != performance unfortunately. With a bit of discretion and a knowledge of sound, admirable configurations can be had within modest budgets.
The problem with passive speakers is the electrical component bottleneck. It doesn't matter what kind of ridiculous budget you throw into transducer R&D, the returns will be very diminishing running through passive filters.
Price != performance unfortunately. With a bit of discretion and a knowledge of sound, admirable configurations can be had within modest budgets.
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