How much is the world worth?

Moonbeam

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I was wondering what the monitary value of the earth is if you wanted to buy it lock, stock, and barrel. I was reading the tort reform thread where people were talking about giving high damage settlements to charity or the government and it occurred to me, as it often does, that one of the reasons that people sue is because they want the money and one of the reasons they want the money is that economic concerns, not having money is scarry since everything about our society revolves around money. Well that led me to think about something I also often think about and that is, what would life be like if we invested some fraction of our wealth annually, say in the stock market for starters, for our children. Now this investment won't be able to be touched for maybe numerous generations till there's a pot big enough to pay say our great great grand kids a living wage maybe when they are old.

But we could keep investing and eventually maybe their great great grand kids would have a pot so big they could retire when they were born. Well naturally you would have to invest in stuff like the stock market, but maybe we're talking sums here bigger than the total value of the market in which case maybe we would have to start buying other countries markets and eventually other countries and antiques and art and eventually the fund would own everything on earth. So that got me to thinking how much it would cost to own everything and if it's enough for everybody to retire. We could always buy the moon and mars and the asteroids too, for that matter and space colonies. There's not much end in sight to the additional value we could produce with that kind of wealth.

Well naturally that kind of makes you wonder what the earth is worth in today's market. Instead of a tax cut or dividend tax reduction to fuel the economy, I was wondering what would happen if you just gave everybody their share now if maybe the economy wouldn't take off like a shot. One easy way, just as a possibility to get some sense of value, would be to ask people what it's worth to them to be on earth as opposed to say being sent to Mars. Since there's no oxigen there I would suspect it's a lot. And since we're talking 'market value' here naturally we'd want to ask Bill Gates what he'd pay to stay on Earth. That would give us some notion of the value of life here and we could just give everybody on earth that much. That kind of inflow of capital all over the world ought to stimulate the economy tremendously.

Maybe that last part won't work, but if, over time, we bought everything, how much do you suppose that investment would yield annually?
 

MacBaine

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If all of our great great great grandkids retired at birth, there would be nobody to run the companies, and the world economy would collapse.
 

Moonbeam

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MacBaine, the fact that I'm comfortable financially doesn't mean I don't throw a log on the fire when I feel like a glass of sherry.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
MacBaine, the fact that I'm comfortable financially doesn't mean I don't throw a log on the fire when I feel like a glass of sherry.

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Argo

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Why would somebody buy it? It's used and is in pretty bad shape. There are cracks here and there and don't get me started on ozone layer.
 

Kyteland

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Bucause parts of the earth are owned by so many independant groups it would be impossible for one person to flat out buy the Earth with money. If you started buying up land then that in turn would drive up the property values of all the land you hadn't bought yet. Eventually the land you didn't own would be at such a premium that owners simply wouldn't part with it at any price.
 

Moonbeam

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ELFenix, I mean that just because a person has money doesn't mean they are willing to do relevant things. I vacuum my house occasionally, for example. :D
 

MacBaine

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
ELFenix, I mean that just because a person has money doesn't mean they are willing to do relevant things. I vacuum my house occasionally, for example. :D

So you think if everyone was rich, they would still do all the jobs that nobody wants to do? Why? There's no incentive for them to do their best, no incentive to improve, etc.
 

Moonbeam

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I do an excellent job of vacuuming. The incentive is that it's my floor. How is the world different than my floor?
 

DaFinn

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I do an excellent job of vacuuming. The incentive is that it's my floor. How is the world different than my floor?

You're saying that everything I can find on the street, I can also find from your floor??? :Q
 

MacBaine

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I do an excellent job of vacuuming. The incentive is that it's my floor. How is the world different than my floor?

Well the fact of life is that if everybody is wealthy from birth, they aren't going to want to do things like work in factories or farm or pick up my garbage. Sure, you'll have a few that do it for sh!ts and giggles, but not nearly enough. Plus, what will happen to the children they have? Every generation, the workforce will decrese more and more, as skills won't be passed down.

It wouldn't work, don't try.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
ELFenix, I mean that just because a person has money doesn't mean they are willing to do relevant things. I vacuum my house occasionally, for example. :D

So you think if everyone was rich, they would still do all the jobs that nobody wants to do? Why? There's no incentive for them to do their best, no incentive to improve, etc.

Gates was born "rich".

 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I do an excellent job of vacuuming. The incentive is that it's my floor. How is the world different than my floor?

Well the fact of life is that if everybody is wealthy from birth, they aren't going to want to do things like work in factories or farm or pick up my garbage. Sure, you'll have a few that do it for sh!ts and giggles, but not nearly enough. Plus, what will happen to the children they have? Every generation, the workforce will decrese more and more, as skills won't be passed down.

It wouldn't work, don't try.


Funny thing is there was a thread recently floating around "if money did'nt matter what job would you choose" Survey says, almost all were the types of jobs you seem to think no one wants. You need to think outside the box, money means nothing under moonbeams society.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
ELFenix, I mean that just because a person has money doesn't mean they are willing to do relevant things. I vacuum my house occasionally, for example. :D

So you think if everyone was rich, they would still do all the jobs that nobody wants to do? Why? There's no incentive for them to do their best, no incentive to improve, etc.

Gates was born "rich".
the key word is jobs no one wants to do. computers was and is gates' hobby.