How much faster is a GF4 MX440 compared to TNT2?

[zCypher]

Just curious. The card is only like $40usd and i'm pretty sure it'd kick the crap out of my tnt2 right?

and another question my bro's GF2 MX440 died, so he replaced it with a cheap card.. thing is he got a GF2 MX400 for the same price as he could have gotten a GF4 MX440! :Q

He was satisfied with his GF2 MX440... and he thinks the MX400 sucks BALLS compared to it (he can't play GTA3 for crap anymore). Would the GF4 MX440 be a worthwhile purchase at such a low price for both of us?

 

[erikiksaz]

Didn't THG do a huge review of 31 video cards? This might be on there, head on over to their video section.

 

[human2k]

GF4MX series are crap, but hey, if you can get it for under $50, its a decent card. Personnally I'd spend a lil more and get a higher performing 8500LE 64MB AGP @ newegg for $72 shipped. Only other card that can outperform is the TI4200 which is only marginally faster at stock speeds (10-15FPS more).

 

[paralazarguer]

GF4MX series are crap

No they're not. The MX440 performs on par with a geforce 2 Ultra. Now, I GeForce 2 Ultra was the best card on the market when the TNT2 was being sold as the MX440 is now. It will be head and shoulders above the TNT, no doubt.
For futureproofing you might want to wait for the GeForce FX 5200 vanilla which is supposed to retail at $79 have a passive heatsink and be fully DX9 compliant.

 

[KDOG]

I had a GF4MX440, and they're not crap. They're just not the best. They are DX 8.1 compliant, but as someone else said, wait till you can get a DX9 card - its worth it. I went from that card to a Radeon 9500PRO and didn't know what I was missing!!! Just wait dude....

 

[butch84]

Actually, the GF4mx series is NOT dx8 compliant. The gf4mx is basically a gf2 an steroids, two generations old, and a directx 7 part.

But, it sounds like it will be a big improvement for ya. I would go for the radeon8500 at newegg as somebody else suggested tho.

best of luck,
butch

 

[moonshinemadness]

Dont diss the TNT2 its a fantastic card for its age(still running one figured its a tad old wont run unreal 2 going for a radeon 9700 pro)! i personally would go with the nVIDIA Ti4600 my mate has one and its fantastic for the price

 

[paralazarguer]

They are DX 8.1 compliant,

No, it's not. It has DX 8.1 compatible drivers though. It does not have pixel or vertex shaders and thus is not DX 8.1 compliant. It is a DX7 card.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

THG... is that Tom's Hardware Guide?

 

[paralazarguer]

yes.

 

[Insidious]

Shop around for a Ti4200... they're getting pretty cheap.....

Enormous gains above what you are considering!

edit: (I forgot to mention...... (anything MX => EVIL commit it to memory )

 

[Maverickman]

The GeForce4 MX 440 shares many of the same features as the GeForce4 Ti features. It does not have pixel and vertex shaders that would make it a DX 8 card. It's simply a faster version of the GeForce2 MX series. It would probably perform on par with a GeForce2 Ultra. The GeForce3 series cards are DX 8 cards. I'd go for a GeForce3 Ti 200 before a GeForce MX card.

 

[BFG10K]

The GF4 MX440 will kick the crap out of a TNT2 but as others have pointed out there are much better choices (Radeon 8500, GF3 Ti200 etc).

The GeForce4 MX 440 shares many of the same features as the GeForce4 Ti features.

No, it shares most of the features from the GF2 core.

 

[DannyBoy]

GF4MX440, infact all gf4 mx's are revised gf2 cores. Is it that hard to understand

Dan

 

[zCypher]

OK, so for $70cdn you can get a Ti200, Radeon 8500... ????

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: zCypher
OK, so for $70cdn you can get a Ti200, Radeon 8500... ????

For $75 I'd buy a Radeon 9100 with VGA/DVI (or 8500 if you can find one).

 

[Intelman07]

Originally posted by: zCypher
Just curious. The card is only like $40usd and i'm pretty sure it'd kick the crap out of my tnt2 right?

and another question my bro's GF2 MX440 died, so he replaced it with a cheap card.. thing is he got a GF2 MX400 for the same price as he could have gotten a GF4 MX440! :Q

He was satisfied with his GF2 MX440... and he thinks the MX400 sucks BALLS compared to it (he can't play GTA3 for crap anymore). Would the GF4 MX440 be a worthwhile purchase at such a low price for both of us?

To answer your question yes. If you can find a cheap MX460 that would be even better. But go ahead and get the MX440 if you desire to.

 

[zCypher]

Ok here are the prices right now from shoplci.com in $cdn currency

ATI Radeon 9000 64Mb DDR [TV Out] This item is Available $99.01
ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 128Mb DDR [TV Out] *OEM* This item is Available $157.25
ATI Radeon 9100 128Mb DDR [TV Out] This item is Available $135.12
Generic nVidia Geforce 4 MX440 64Mb [TV Out] DDR This item is Available $67.50
Generic GF4 TI4200 64Mb [TV Out] This item is Available $154.8
Generic Geforce FX5200 128Mb [TV Out] This item is Available $168.48

Your choice?

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: zCypher
Ok here are the prices right now from shoplci.com in $cdn currency

ATI Radeon 9000 64Mb DDR [TV Out] This item is Available $99.01
ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 128Mb DDR [TV Out] *OEM* This item is Available $157.25
ATI Radeon 9100 128Mb DDR [TV Out] This item is Available $135.12
Generic nVidia Geforce 4 MX440 64Mb [TV Out] DDR This item is Available $67.50
Generic GF4 TI4200 64Mb [TV Out] This item is Available $154.8
Generic Geforce FX5200 128Mb [TV Out] This item is Available $168.48

Your choice?

ATI Radeon 9100 64 MB DDR DVI - CAD$110.

 

[zCypher]

Originally posted by: Eug

Originally posted by: zCypher
Ok here are the prices right now from shoplci.com in $cdn currency

ATI Radeon 9000 64Mb DDR [TV Out] This item is Available $99.01
ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 128Mb DDR [TV Out] *OEM* This item is Available $157.25
ATI Radeon 9100 128Mb DDR [TV Out] This item is Available $135.12
Generic nVidia Geforce 4 MX440 64Mb [TV Out] DDR This item is Available $67.50
Generic GF4 TI4200 64Mb [TV Out] This item is Available $154.8
Generic Geforce FX5200 128Mb [TV Out] This item is Available $168.48

Your choice?

ATI Radeon 9100 64 MB DDR DVI - CAD$110.

Big (or any) difference between that and the 128MB? Any diff between the 9000 and 9100?

 

[LouPoir]

Big difference between a TNT2 and a GF4mx440.

 

[zCypher]

Originally posted by: LouPoir
Big difference between a TNT2 and a GF4mx440.

Yes I know, but as you can see (but probably haven't due to not reading the thread), this thread has progressed and is no longer discussing the TNT2/MX440, really.

 

[Eug]

Big (or any) difference between that and the 128MB? Any diff between the 9000 and 9100?

The 64 has less memory.

Whether this matters or not is debatable. You'll get differing opinions. I have never had the 9100 128 MB so I can't compare.

Also important though is that many 64 MB cards use FASTER memory than the 128 MB version. Thus if 64 MB is enough for your purposes then a 64 will actually often run faster than the 128 MB.

Both are significantly faster than the 9000. The 9100 is similar to the 8500LE.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

The question still has merit. It's another tick mark beside "Yes, upgrade already, and kick that sluggish TNT2 out"

- M4H

 

[zCypher]

Yeah yeah yeah, but my computer isn't very high up on the priority list right now. Getting a loan for a car, paying off my $800 visa bill and doing interesting things with my life are all much higher up on the list. Nevertheless, I do want to fix up a couple things on the comp sometimes, hence this thread.

So, the 9100 is similar to the 8500LE which is also superior to the 9000? All these numbers are st00pid. They should keep things simple like they used to be with video cards. TNT2. TNT2 Ultra. Banshee. Voodoo 2, Voodoo 3. SIMPLE! none of this 7000, 7500 8000 8500 8500LE 9000 9100 bullsh!t! Geforce this geforce that! blah!

Anyway... so the best bang for the buck would be a 64MB 9100 then? Any downsides? Drivers?