How much does an OC-3 connection cost?

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AndrewR

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Phalkon: It's most definitely a server side problem, though not exactly server related. They only have two T1's for our complex, and the connection drops to sub-56K speeds during peak times (even into early morning hours). They simply do not have the bandwidth for their customer base. I was told there was a guaranteed 256K bandwidth on this connection, but they now say that there's no such guarantee at all. I've sent a letter alleging fraud and negligent misrepresentation, but the cowards are now ducking my phone calls. Next step is to contact PUC or PSC or even attorney general. I have several legal avenues if they refuse to deal with me.

Oh, Dean, I almost forgot -- fsck you. :D 7 Mbps DSL...Are you on Nortel's board of directors or something?!?
 

RedCross

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Dean Are you kidding me $40 CA fora 7mbps connection???????$#!@#$!@#$

That is like $25 American. If you aren't lyin, you are a serious pimp

/me bows
 

FlashG

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I design these things, but don't get involved in the pricing aspects. Most businesses connect themselves together using IOF fibers and various pieces of add/drop equipment. OC-192 is becoming popular.

I imagine that the total cost for a simple OC-3 Point to Point system would be about $50 to 70K (minimum). Your monthly fee would be based on a Tariff or Special Assembly design estimate.
 

Dean

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Red Cross that's what it costs here. I believe we had dsl available here in Nova Scotia before anywhere. They gave us the big chunk of bandwidth to compete with cable(which has been out here a long time also). I don't see the full 7mbit though...i peak at around 5mbits because of where i'm located on the loop. But i do seem to get the full 1.5mbit upload speed or at least close to it.
 

AndrewR

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Aw, Dean, I feel your pain -- only 5?? How do you cope? ;)

I'm stuck with a cable connection that bottoms out at 20K -- it's seriously ticking me off.

FlashG: What are the installation requirements for OC? Do you know if new areas are generally laid with OC on the chance that future needs will require them? This is all rather fascinating, and I know very little about it.

 

FlashG

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AndrewR,

Sorry about the long time lapse.

<<FlashG: What are the installation requirements for OC? Do you know if new areas are generally laid with OC on the chance that future needs will require them? This is all rather fascinating, and I know very little about it.>>

Briefly,

Optical Channel &quot;OC&quot; is the optical transmission bandwidth rate over fiber cables. Most companies in the US of A use the following optical bandwidth rates:
OC-3, 12, 48 and now 192

OC Level - Line Rate (Mbit/s)

OC-1 - 51.840
OC-3 - 155.520
OC-12 - 622.080
OC-48 - 2488.320

There are other digital hierarchies that are used called Digital Signal Rates or &quot;DS&quot; for short. Typically they range from DS0 (0.064 Mb/s), DS1 (1.544 Mb/s) to DS3 at (44.736 Mb/s).

Usually these are transported over a Synchronous Optical NETwork or SONET system.

I hope this gives you some additional insight into the wonderful world of bandwidth.

BTW,
I had to pull one of my old training books out for this one.
 

dawks

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I couldnt give you any real prices, but a guess, if you say, wanted to lease one for your business is like $20,000 + per month. Have fun :)

3 seconds to download 1,000MB on OC-48
That would be nice, but of course, we all know, no hard drive can transfer at those speeds. Those lines are just meant for thousands of users.

This is my third time posting these, but they are just so damn cool.
AboveNet's Network Map
UU Net's Network

OC-192 10GBits *droool* :p
 

FlashG

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Just for giggles.

I have (recently) heard people (equipment venders) talking about creating an actual &quot;Hollow Room&quot; using an OC-12. Gawd... shades of Star Trek.

Beam me up Snotty.
 

Rastus

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OC stands for Optical Carrier.

I have 6 OC192's operating right now in my POP and 4 more being installed. The new one's will carry up to 32 OC192's on each pipe.

I don't know how much the service costs, but one circuit card I use has a price tag on it of $192,000. Buy Nortel stock, they can't make them fast enough for us.
 

FlashG

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Rastus,

Not to get to anal but back in the days when fiber was new and DS3's were hi-tech we called it &quot;Optical Channel&quot;. Most everything was channeled electronically.

I guess I need to go to one of those new &quot;feel good&quot; acronym seminars.



Getting old. Need a nap now.
 

HaVoC

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zippy,

Even if you could run the fiber from the POP (point-of-presence) to your house and afford the bandwidth charges, an OC192 would drown the PCI bus which would become the limiting factor. These optical lines are designed for internet backbones, with thousands of circuits running across a tiny optical fiber core.

The kewl thing is that you can use more than one wavelength of light to carry multiple OC-48 or OC192 channels across one fiber. Nortel's new Optera line of long haul SONET equipment can currently handle over 160Gbits/sec over one fiber! That's damned amazing.

I think eventually even connections from the home will go to fiber because fiber is where the bandwidth is.
 

FlashG

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Actually I heard that the internet is based on an OC-12 backbone. They want to upgrade it to a more state of the art solution.

Right now we are using DWDM based at a (relatively) low 16 lamda per fiber. I think they can actually go into the hundreds. Can you even imagine hundreds of OC-192's (future 384's) on one single fiber???