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Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
You really think the buttstock of a Garand will help dissipate 3,000 foot pounds of force? A 30-06 has a recoil force of around 20 footpounds. http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm
The very first line on the link you provided proves my point:
"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction; that is one of the physical laws of our universe. This means that the momentum of a rifle's reaction will exactly equal the momentum of the bullet and powder gasses ejected from the barrel"
It says exactly what I've been saying all along... EQUAL AND OPPOSITE REACTION.
Does shooting an M1 Garand knock you off your feet when you shoot it? NO. Therefore the person getting shot will not be knocked off their feet.
Simple physics (to those intelligent enough to understand the concepts, which you obviously are not)
Jmmsbnd007
Diamond Member
IDIOT, read the table. Just because the recoil is lighter than the actual bullet force doesn't mean that the person won't get knocked down if they're wearing kevlar.Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
You really think the buttstock of a Garand will help dissipate 3,000 foot pounds of force? A 30-06 has a recoil force of around 20 footpounds. http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm
The very first line on the link you provided proves my point:
"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction; that is one of the physical laws of our universe. This means that the momentum of a rifle's reaction will exactly equal the momentum of the bullet and powder gasses ejected from the barrel"
It says exactly what I've been saying all along... EQUAL AND OPPOSITE REACTION.
Does shooting an M1 Garand knock you off your feet when you shoot it? NO. Therefore the person getting shot will not be knocked off their feet.
Jmmsbnd007
Diamond Member
And you really think you're feeling 3,000 foot pounds of recoil?Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
You really think the buttstock of a Garand will help dissipate 3,000 foot pounds of force? A 30-06 has a recoil force of around 20 footpounds. http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htmOriginally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
If that were true, everyone who served in world war 2 would have a permanently damaged shoulder.
LOL
Reading comprehension isn't your strongpoint is it?
I *HAVE* an M1 Garand, you idiot. I am well aware of what it feels like to shoot it. Don't try to tell me about my own gun.
Jmmsbnd007
Diamond Member
Oops, proved wrong again, and yet you're so defensive. Read the table, and go away.Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
Whatever. 3,000 foot pounds, yet a slight push is enough to knock some people over. You're clueless.Originally posted by: Marshallj
This country is doomed. People are so fvcking stupid nowadays, they don't know about basic physics and cannot grasp simple concepts.
I'm done trying to educate people, my only wish is that I can find a way to harvest this cash crop.
You have no clue about the physics involved. Stop throwing around numbers, and Stop posting.
And you really think you're feeling 3,000 foot pounds of recoil?[/quote]Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
I *HAVE* an M1 Garand, you idiot. I am well aware of what it feels like to shoot it. Don't try to tell me about my own gun.
Considering the fact that you are failing to understand one of THE MOST BASIC laws of physics, I do not think that I can hold an intelligent conversation with you.
It is a simple fact that the SAME FORCE YOU FEEL IN THE RECOIL IS THE SAME AMOUNT OF FORCE THE BULLET AND GASES HAVE.
What part of "equal and opposite reaction" do you not understand?
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
And you really think you're feeling 3,000 foot pounds of recoil?
I *know* that I'm feeling the same amount of recoil that the bullet and gases contain.
This is one of the most elementary physics problems relating to guns. You fail to understand it. I feel like I am talking to a kid who doesn't understand any better.
I own an M1 Garand and an M1 Carbine. I know what they feel like. Do not try to be an internet genius when you are actually a real life moron.
Jmmsbnd007
Diamond Member
Originally posted by: Marshallj
And you really think you're feeling 3,000 foot pounds of recoil?Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
I *HAVE* an M1 Garand, you idiot. I am well aware of what it feels like to shoot it. Don't try to tell me about my own gun.
Considering the fact that you are failing to understand one of THE MOST BASIC laws of physics, I do not think that I can hold an intelligent conversation with you.
It is a simple fact that the SAME FORCE YOU FEEL IN THE RECOIL IS THE SAME AMOUNT OF FORCE THE BULLET AND GASES HAVE.
What part of "equal and opposite reaction" do you not understand?[/quote]
You obviously cannot read. Chuck Hawks says the exact same thing. Do you even know how powerful 3,000 foot pounds of energy is? Probably enough to instantly shear a 1" Steel bolt. I'll tell you one thing, most car engines aren't even close to 3,000 foot pounds and if you even think about grabbing the drive shaft it'll rip your arm off.
You obviously cannot read. Chuck Hawks says the exact same thing. Do you even know how powerful 3,000 foot pounds of energy is? Probably enough to instantly shear a 1" Steel bolt. I'll tell you one thing, most car engines aren't even close to 3,000 foot pounds and if you even think about grabbing the drive shaft it'll rip your arm off.[/quote]Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
What part of "equal and opposite reaction" do you not understand?
Stop throwing around terms that you obviously do not comprehend.
You are a moron. You have failed this physics course. F
Jmmsbnd007
Diamond Member
No moron, you just proved yourself incorrect. You're not feeling 3,000 ft/pounds of recoil. You're feeling 20. However, the rifle is absorbing almost all of the inital reactionary energy.Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
And you really think you're feeling 3,000 foot pounds of recoil?
I *know* that I'm feeling the same amount of recoil that the bullet and gases contain.
This is one of the most elementary physics problems relating to guns. You fail to understand it. I feel like I am talking to a kid who doesn't understand any better.
I own an M1 Garand and an M1 Carbine. I know what they feel like. Do not try to be an internet genius when you are actually a real life moron.
I *know* that I'm feeling the same amount of recoil that the bullet and gases contain.
You said it yourself that you're feeling 3,000 foot pounds of recoil. Good day, fool.The reason the gun doesn't rocket through your arm is due to conservation of momentum
Jmmsbnd007
Diamond Member
YOU ARE NOT FEELING 3,000 FOOT POUNDS. The rifle absorbs almost all of it; you end up with 20 foot pounds.Originally posted by: Marshallj
You are feeling the exact same amount of kick from the gun as the bullet and gases contain. There is no way around this.
Jmmsbnd007
Diamond Member
That's recoil SPEED, not FORCE, you fool. Who's mentally challenged now? You said it yourself that you are feeling 3,000 foot pounds of recoil when you fire that Garand, and I just proved you wrong. Go away.Originally posted by: Marshallj
another link for the mentally challeneged.
Jmmsbnd007
Diamond Member
Stupidity should be a crime. You'd be in for life. I think I can figure out that a rifle has recoil due to Newton's 3rd law.Originally posted by: Marshallj
And another link for those who are obviously too stupid to get the hint by now
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
YOU ARE NOT FEELING 3,000 FOOT POUNDS. The rifle absorbs almost all of it; you end up with 20 foot pounds.Originally posted by: Marshallj
You are feeling the exact same amount of kick from the gun as the bullet and gases contain. There is no way around this.
Conservation of energy. Read up on it. The gun does not have the ability to "absorb" energy. Neither do you. It's transferred from the bullet, to the gun, to you, through your feet, and to the ground.
Simple physics.
Jmmsbnd007
Diamond Member
Face it dumbass, you said it yourself that you feel the same amount of force in recoil that the bullet has at the muzzle. 3,000 foot pounds would rip your arm off.Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
YOU ARE NOT FEELING 3,000 FOOT POUNDS. The rifle absorbs almost all of it; you end up with 20 foot pounds.Originally posted by: Marshallj
You are feeling the exact same amount of kick from the gun as the bullet and gases contain. There is no way around this.
Conservation of energy. Read up on it. The gun does not have the ability to "absorb" energy. Neither do you. It's transferred from the bullet, to the gun, to you, through your feet, and to the ground.
Simple physics.
Face it dumbass, you said it yourself that you feel the same amount of force in recoil that the bullet has at the muzzle. 3,000 foot pounds would rip your arm off.[/quote]Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
Simple physics.
You are misunderstanding the units of force that they are quoting.
My GOD you are a moron!
Jmmsbnd007
Diamond Member
Originally posted by: Marshallj
Face it dumbass, you said it yourself that you feel the same amount of force in recoil that the bullet has at the muzzle. 3,000 foot pounds would rip your arm off.Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
Simple physics.
You are misunderstanding the units of force that they are quoting.
My GOD you are a moron![/quote]
Misunderstanding? What the hell is there to misunderstand? All they quote is foot pounds, no other measure of force! Quit changing the subject.
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
That's recoil SPEED, not FORCE, you fool. Who's mentally challenged now? You said it yourself that you are feeling 3,000 foot pounds of recoil when you fire that Garand, and I just proved you wrong. Go away.Originally posted by: Marshallj
another link for the mentally challeneged.
You are misunderstanding the units of force. You are not feeling 3,000 lbs on your shoulder. And a person getting hit by the bullet does not feel 3,000 lbs of force either.
I find it amuzing that you are sticking so strongly to this number you've heard, yet you obviously do not understand it.
My father shoots high power silhouette matches, and he uses his 30-06 in the competitions. You'd think 3,000 lbs would easily knock over a 75 lb ram silhouette, but the fact is that sometime the silhouette will not go down. This is because there is NOT really 3,000 lbs of force being exerted on the object being hit.
And I have a video here of a guy getting shot with a rifle, and he does not get blown off his feet.
You are uninformed. I am informed, I shoot all the time, sometimes competitively.
Jmmsbnd007
Diamond Member
You know why? This is MUZZLE VELOCITY. As far as I know, he's shooting at 1,000 yards, kind of a crappy distance for a 30-06. You said it yourself that you feel the same amount of energy in recoil as the bullet itself has, aka, ~3,000 foot pounds for a 30-06.Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
That's recoil SPEED, not FORCE, you fool. Who's mentally challenged now? You said it yourself that you are feeling 3,000 foot pounds of recoil when you fire that Garand, and I just proved you wrong. Go away.Originally posted by: Marshallj
another link for the mentally challeneged.
You are misunderstanding the units of force. You are not feeling 3,000 lbs on your shoulder. And a person getting hit by the bullet does not feel 3,000 lbs of force either.
I find it amuzing that you are sticking so strongly to this number you've heard, yet you obviously do not understand it.
My father shoots high power silhouette matches, and he uses his 30-06 in the competitions. You'd think 3,000 lbs would easily knock over a 75 lb ram silhouette, but the fact is that sometime the silhouette will not go down. This is because there is NOT really 3,000 lbs of force being exerted on the object being hit.
And I have a video here of a guy getting shot with a rifle, and he does not get blown off his feet.
You are uninformed. I am informed, I shoot all the time, sometimes competitively.
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