How much $ could I get on this trade in?

krunchykrome

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How much do you think an Acura dealership would give me on a trade in on a 2004 Acura TSX (without gps). The car has 114k miles, no mechanical problems at all. A small dent on the side panel, a few dings and scratches common with a car of it's age. I was rear ended a while back, but the cosmetic collision damage was fixed and repaired professionally.

Assume I'd tarde it in towards the purchase of a new Acura, say a new TSX or TL.
 

ViviTheMage

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I've only traded cars in that were near death ... ie failing turbo, major oil leakage, etc.

Why not get the most for your buck, and sell it private?
 

krunchykrome

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I've only traded cars in that were near death ... ie failing turbo, major oil leakage, etc.

Why not get the most for your buck, and sell it private?

I guess I'd rather not deal with the extra hassle. Plus, Im assuming that I'll get a fair trade in value if I buy a new Acura.
 

RKS

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Even though they tried to reign in the hideous TL, it's still awful compared to how nice it used to look.
 

krunchykrome

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Even though they tried to reign in the hideous TL, it's still awful compared to how nice it used to look.

yea, Im not a big fan of the new styling, especially the back

I do like the look of the new TSX's though
 

mvbighead

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You're assuming wrong...trade-in values are only fair to the dealers. They are a business.

This. Not only this, but it also complicates the sale, IMO.

Essentially, you trade in a 6k dollar car for 30k dollar car. You negotiate both values, to come up with a final value of 24k, but they will try and try and try to weasle, whether by adjusting the new or trade-in value. If you were to sell the car for 5k cash (less than whatever trade-in value is offered), you can focus on what you're giving for the new car.

Not to mention, chances are they'll offer X, and you'll be able to sell the car private for at least 1.2X. And, you likely help someone else buy a serviceable vehicle at a fraction of what the dealer would sell it for. At least, that's how I look at it.
 

mvbighead

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Oh, and according to KBB:

About 9800 for private party, about 8000 for trade in (in my area).
 

the DRIZZLE

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The flip side is that there is some sales tax savings by trading in your old car. That gives you some of the money back that you are losing by getting ripped off on the trade in price.
 

PricklyPete

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The flip side is that there is some sales tax savings by trading in your old car. That gives you some of the money back that you are losing by getting ripped off on the trade in price.

Agreed, and I am not saying that it doesn't make the process "easier"...it just isn't the best financial decision. The same way that buying a new car vs. an old car is not the best financial decision. So if the ease of process appeals to you, by all means trade it in. I have noted several times on this forum that I rarely make car decision from a financial perspective, but if that is your focus, you can certainly do better selling it private party.
 

Vette73

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They will give either what they can get for it at auction or that plus what ever extra they can tack on the new car to make it look like a better deal.

Sell at craigslist and then go in with the extra cash to get a better deal.
 

NutBucket

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Also try Carmax. Doesn't hurt any and at least you'll have a baseline to negotiate from at the dealer.
 

ajskydiver

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I just sold my S2000 privately and was very hesitant to do so for all the usual reasons.

Having done it now, it's really not a big deal and well worth the thousands extra you'll put in your pocket.

Just general tips:

-Detail the car inside and out including the engine bay
-Take good pictures
-Set a realistic price

I had my car sold in less then 24 hours for more than my asking price. I would definitely sell again privately if I had to.
 
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Just be sure to bring some astroglide and a pack of smokes cause you're going to ge betting screwed if you trade it in. Any car with that many miles isn't going to be sold by the dealership. The dealership isn't even going to buy the car.
What's going to happen is they will call around and see which bargin used lot will buy it. That used lot is going to have a low buying price,then the dealership you are at is going to offer you even less and pocket the difference.
 

allthatisman

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I just sold my S2000 privately and was very hesitant to do so for all the usual reasons.

Having done it now, it's really not a big deal and well worth the thousands extra you'll put in your pocket.

Just general tips:

-Detail the car inside and out including the engine bay
-Take good pictures
-Set a realistic price

I had my car sold in less then 24 hours for more than my asking price. I would definitely sell again privately if I had to.

Just curious, what did you sell it for? I am in sort of the same situation, 2002 S2000, all stock, clean title, 56,XXX miles, factory hardtop, OEM iPod connector, VERY clean. The car no longer suits me and I want to sell it private party, but I am not sure what I can reasonably ask for it. I was thinking $13,500, with the hopes of getting $13,000.
 

JimW1949

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The same way that buying a new car vs. an old car is not the best financial decision.
No offense, but I don't agree that buying a used car is a better financial decision. A used car CAN be the best decision in some cases, but in general I still think you are better off buying a new car than a used one. Let me explain why I say that.


When you buy a used car you never really know for sure how the car was treated before you bought it. Did the previous owner properly take care of the maintenance on the vehicle? Did the previous owner have kids that drove it and hot-rodded it to death? Why did the previous owner get rid of the vehicle? Was the vehicle continually breaking down and the owner felt it was time to get rid of the piece of junk? There are probably hundreds of possible reasons why the used vehicle is sitting on the dealer's lot. It may even be the previous owner came into some unexpected money and just wanted to purchase a nicer vehicle. But do you really want to take the chance that you may be buying someone else's problems?

Additionally, when you buy a new car you can usually get a rather low interest loan right from the manufacturer. Plus, for some strange reason that I don't fully understand, lending institutions such as banks, credit unions and savings and loans, tend to be more lenient in giving cheap loans on new vehicles than they are lending money for used ones.

Also, when you buy a brand new vehicle, you have a substantial warranty on it. If you have a problem, you can get the problem resolved without all that much of a hassle. Try taking a used vehicle back to the dealer 6 months after you buy it and tell them you want it fixed for free because it now has some major problems with it.

I know you can take precautions when buying a used vehicle. You can take that vehicle to a mechanic you trust and have the mechanic go over it with a fine tooth comb. But unless you are good friends with a mechanic, it will no doubt cost you to have the car checked out. However, doing so can potentially save you a lot of money down the road so it is in your best interest to have the vehicle checked by a mechanic. The only problem is, not very many people do this because it will cost them some money and they don't want to pay it, and that is very unfortunate.

If you purchase a brand new vehicle, and if you take really good care of it, it will most likely last you at least 150,000 miles and probably a lot longer. Right along with this is would be the idea that when you buy a new vehicle you get the latest and greatest technology in-so-far as fuel economy and safety features. If you buy a used vehicle, the odds are it will get fewer miles per gallon, it won't have all the latest safety features, and let's face it, you will have no real way of predicting how long the vehicle will last. How long the used vehicle can last will depend upon several factors. Factors like how many miles the vehicle had on it when you bought it, how well the vehicle was maintained before you got it, how the car was driven before you got it, and no doubt all sorts of other factors that I can't think of off the top of my head.

Anyway, I am of the opinion that buying a new vehicle, in most cases, is a better financial decision than buying a used vehicle. That is just my opinion and I am quite certain there are many others who will disagree. That's OK, this is America, we can disagree and still be friends.
 

simonizor

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You can almost always get at least double what the dealer is offering you for trade in by selling the vehicle private party. Not even trying to sell it for at least a month is just plain lazy. In the end, it's your money; if you want to throw half of it away by trading it in, be my guest.
 

vshah

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i wonder if you and a friend could go in. you bargain down the price of the new car to their "lowest" price. the friend, independently, expresses interest in a different car and gets the max value on the trade in. then, you join forces and pwn the dealership.
 

T2urtle

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what the price you think its worth?

carmax it first and then go to dealership to see what they have.


i'm in the market for a car, well my brother is and a TSX is one on his list.
 

MikeMike

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You can almost always get at least double what the dealer is offering you for trade in by selling the vehicle private party. Not even trying to sell it for at least a month is just plain lazy. In the end, it's your money; if you want to throw half of it away by trading it in, be my guest.

wait... what?

so if a dealer offers me $10k i can get atleast $20k on the private market?

if a dealer offers me 7k, i can get 14k??

LOL
 

bryanW1995

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This. Not only this, but it also complicates the sale, IMO.

Essentially, you trade in a 6k dollar car for 30k dollar car. You negotiate both values, to come up with a final value of 24k, but they will try and try and try to weasle, whether by adjusting the new or trade-in value. If you were to sell the car for 5k cash (less than whatever trade-in value is offered), you can focus on what you're giving for the new car.

Not to mention, chances are they'll offer X, and you'll be able to sell the car private for at least 1.2X. And, you likely help someone else buy a serviceable vehicle at a fraction of what the dealer would sell it for. At least, that's how I look at it.

While it's true that the dealer is obviously not planning to lose money on your trade, it's not always the right decision to retail it. If there are any dings/scratches/mechanical issues/tires/etc/etc/etc the dealer can fix it much cheaper than you can. Also, you don't have to meet random strangers in parking lots at odd hours or (even worse) invite random strangers to your home to check out the car. Plus, in most though not all states you get a tax credit on the trade in. Here in Texas, the credit is $500 on an $8000 car for example. It might still be worth it for you to retail it, but it's by no means a slam dunk that this is always the way to get rid of your old car.

By the way, in the actual negotiation it doesn't matter if you have a trade in or not. You're still negotiating one number, it's just a "trade difference" instead of a "sales price". Many high end stores like Acura are one price stores or even MSRP only, so they can't or won't offer you any discount after their first proposal. If you have a trade in, however, the dealership management can hide some discount for you in a trade in without compromising their "one price" philosophy.
 

bryanW1995

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Also try Carmax. Doesn't hurt any and at least you'll have a baseline to negotiate from at the dealer.

they are often great on nicer/newer cars, but I was offered $17500 by a wholesaler on a mustang cobra a few years ago when carmax only offered me $14k. Carmax is just one more data point, though if you want to ensure a fair trade number you can go there first, get their 3 day 300 mile offer in writing, and take it to the acura dealer as a negotiation aid. If you do, however, keep that in reserve b/c the acura store might end up giving you more money for it.


i wonder if you and a friend could go in. you bargain down the price of the new car to their "lowest" price. the friend, independently, expresses interest in a different car and gets the max value on the trade in. then, you join forces and pwn the dealership.

I've seen people try that. A more common scheme is to negotiate the deal on the car, then say "Oh, by the way, I have a trade in". If you're a competent negotiator then it doesn't matter if you take care of the trade in up front, and if you're NOT a competent negotiator you could very easily talk yourself out of a good deal on a car that you like.
 
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NutBucket

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Well, to be fair a Cobra is bit more of a specialized car compared to your average Honda\Acura.

My only experience with Carmax was when my dad was looking to sell his '01 Camry last year. Carmax gave him over bluebook for trade in and given the prices we were seeing online (and the fact it was a 5MT car) it was a no-brainer. I mean, who but my dad buys a Camry with a 5MT?
 

T2urtle

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^ lol at 5mt camry. ive seen like 4-5 5mt camry's. I wanted one at first.