How much can the 6800GS be overclocked?

[Sonikku]

I was about ready to pull the trigger on an Connect 3D X800GTO. Being able to unlock from 12 pipes to 16 pipes, and being able to overclock the core from 400mhz to over 600mhz according to users posts, I thought it was the best value given the $179 the Connect 3D goes for on newegg. But according to aatech's review, the GTO can hardly hold a candle to the GS and simply does not match the value the new 6800 has. I need to upgrade from an 9600XT, make no mistake. But will the GS be a better value after it's overlocked?

 

[Nextman916]

I doubt anyone has the 6800gs yet and if they did they're probably having a blast benching and gaming with it. Wait a couple days and threads will start to open up about it.

 

[Sonikku]

Wait, can the GS unlock from 12 pipes to 16 like the Connect 3D GTO can? Did AATech review the unlocked GTO in their bench or not?

 

[erwos]

Unlock a quad and get 50mhz more out of the RAM, and you'll have a 6800 Ultra. The RAM overclock should be easy - the question is whether you can get that last quad going.

If they had an AGP version of this card, it would _definitely_ be on my holiday wishlist.

-Erwos

 

[Nextman916]

I seriously doubt it. They are probably manufactured without them as nvidia learned from the 6800 series, the 7800gt cannot be unlocked to gtx. So why would they risk leaving extra pipelines intact in an even newer card?

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: erwos
Unlock a quad and get 50mhz more out of the RAM, and you'll have a 6800 Ultra. The RAM overclock should be easy - the question is whether you can get that last quad going.

If they had an AGP version of this card, it would _definitely_ be on my holiday wishlist.

-Erwos

NV40 (or 45) core = 130nm, used in 6800GT/Ultra.
NV41/2(?) = 110nm core used in 6800GS (NU?). You can't unlock it because it's not the same core, doesn't physically have the extra quad.

 

[lifeguard1999]

Guru3d o/c the 6800 GS rom 425 MHz core to 480 MHz core

 

[fbrdphreak]

You cannot unlock it; this is the NV42 core, from the mobile 6800 GPU's.

HotHardware (I think) OC'd it to like ~530MHz core & 1.2GHz mem IIRC. Read the review in the AT News link

 

[MustangSVT]

i guess 6800 from last year's deal was pretty good

 

[christopherzombie]

Hot Hardware had the eVGA 6800GS clocked to 540/1230. Guru3D got 480/1110 out of the POV 6800GS. I wonder if there are any NV41 parts that don't OC as much. Maybe POV uses the NV41?

 

[Sonikku]

Originally posted by: lifeguard1999
Guru3d o/c the 6800 GS rom 425 MHz core to 480 MHz core

Wha? That's it? Bearing in mind that the Connect 3D GTO can be unlocked from 12 pipes to 16 and can be clocked from 400mhz core to 600mhz or more with good cooling, what makes the GS the better value in AAtechs mind?

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Sonikku

Originally posted by: lifeguard1999
Guru3d o/c the 6800 GS rom 425 MHz core to 480 MHz core

Wha? That's it? Bearing in mind that the Connect 3D GTO can be unlocked from 12 pipes to 16 and can be clocked from 400mhz core to 600mhz or more with good cooling, what makes the GS the better value in AAtechs mind?

The fact that it's cheaper than the GTO2 most likely.

The Connect3D card is an exception in that it unlocks and you can find such good deals on it.

Also usually websites talk about cards based on stock performance, not overclocked/unlocking potential...

I think the 6800GS looks like a solid card; once prices dip under $200 it will be quite attractive.

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: christopherzombie
Hot Hardware had the eVGA 6800GS clocked to 540/1230. Guru3D got 480/1110 out of the POV 6800GS. I wonder if there are any NV41 parts that don't OC as much. Maybe POV uses the NV41?

POV used NV42.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Hot hardware got their 6800GS to 540/1230

Link

3dmark of 6364!!

Is it me or this 12pipe card is faster than the 16 pipe GT?

 

[fliguy84]

it's almost as fast

maybe the .11 micron technology is more efficient? either way, can't wait for the 16-pipe 7800GS(?) to come out

 

[Kalessian]

Edit: Strange... I posted a bunch of stuff.

I'm too lazy, now, so I'll just say FS got 522/1.20 on theirs.

Grain of salt, blah blah.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: fliguy84
it's almost as fast

maybe the .11 micron technology is more efficient? either way, can't wait for the 16-pipe 7800GS(?) to come out

It is using the 7800 series PCB design you know. We might expect some insane clocks from these badboys.

Anyway, the cheapest 6800GS goes around $210.

2x 6800GS Sli seems really affractive. Look at the benches!!

Link

Half life2
16x12 4xAA 8xAF
6800GS - 70.1
7800GTX - 69

Quake4
16x12 4xAA 8xAF
6800GS - 73.6
7800GTX - 65.4

F.E.A.R
16x12 4xAA 8xAF
6800Gs - 28
7800GTX - 29

And this is at a price of $420!!, imagine when the prices are lower. What you guys think?

 

[fliguy84]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
And this is at a price of $420!!, imagine when the prices are lower. What you guys think?

Buy 10 cards now and sell them later at FS/FT forum after price skyrockets past MSRP

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: fliguy84

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
And this is at a price of $420!!, imagine when the prices are lower. What you guys think?

Buy 10 cards now and sell them later at FS/FT forum after price skyrockets past MSRP

:laugh:

 

[JimmyH]

2x 6800GS Sli ~ $420
Don't forget the monster powersupply ~ $100
Don't forget the SLI mobo ~ $120
Don't forget the huge electric bill every month.
Hope u got large LCD or 21" or greater CRT.

~$640 with the added bonus of higher electric bills. Those sli scores are awesome though I think a single 7800gtx or x1800xt would be a more reasonable upgrade.

As to Sonikku's original question, I'd be surprised if a oc'd 6800GS is faster than a oc'd c3d x800gto. The 6800gs seems to overclock well and is fast for a 12 piper. Till peeps get them, its still out there. I grabbed c3d at newegg, but monarch has them for $154 if you don't mind the rebate. I'd say its a no lose situation either way you choose.

 

[ScrewFace]

What does the 'GS' stand for? GrandStanding? LOL!

 

[jiffylube1024]

The funny thing about the new/improved GS is that, aside from 110nm, its specs are awefully similar to the much-lambasted X800 Pro (which really wasn't that different from a 6800GT in performance, although many people claimed otherwise). Especially since many/most X800Pro's were o/c monsters: you either got a VIVO one that would unlock the extra 4 pipes and or a non vivo that would still overclock to around 525+/1100+ .

 

[WhipperSnapper]

I ordered a Connect3D x800 GTO from Monarch just yesterday morning for $144 after rebate. ($179 with free shipping - $10 coupon code - $25 rebate).

I would bet that $144 for that card is a better value than $189 for the 6800 GS ($199 at Monarch I think - $10 coupon). Also, if the 6800 GS is the equivalent of a 6800 GT and if an unlocked and overclocked Connect3D x800 GTO is the equivalent of an x800xt, wouldn't the proper comparisson be that of an x800xt to a 6800 GT? We already have benchmarks for that and the x800xt seems to beat it. Of course, that isn't to say that the 6800 GS couldn't overclock and beat the x800xt.

I suppose that the real issue is, which card is better when it's been unlocked and overclocked to its highest stable speeds? I'd put my money on the Connect3D x800 GTO simply because it would have 16 pipes. The downside is that you don't get Shader Model 3.0

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
The funny thing about the new/improved GS is that, aside from 110nm, its specs are awefully similar to the much-lambasted X800 Pro (which really wasn't that different from a 6800GT in performance, although many people claimed otherwise). Especially since many/most X800Pro's were o/c monsters: you either got a VIVO one that would unlock the extra 4 pipes and or a non vivo that would still overclock to around 525+/1100+ .

Would anyone care to confirm whether it was possible to unlock those cards in PCI-E? I read a couple comments in a thread, the one at TechPowerup I think, where people were saying that you could only unlock those cards if they were AGP but that it failed for PCI-E.

 

[Sunrise089]

To state something very clearly for the OP, when AT was talking about the GS being faster and a better value than an X800 GTO they were talking about a STOCK GTO. The GS is a GREAT card at stock for its price, but if you arn't worried about OC'ing (and there are concerns with warrenties, heat, etc) then the C3D GTO is probably going to be faster, and certainly going to be cheaper.