How Much Better This Graphic Card Than Intel's HD Graphics?

[ttechf]

Hi,

I was just wondering about something which is exactly how much better is the HD 7770 than Intel's HD4000 integrated graphics? I ask because the HD 7770 is around $125 or so and is it worth the $125 for the card's power of graphics or is HD4000 right near or close to it? Can I save the $125 or is it better to have the card?



Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this. Thank you. : )

 

[Homeles]

The 7770 is somewhere between 3-4x the speed of HD 4000. It's absolutely an improvement.

Are you just trying to game? What resolution are you running?

 

[Durvelle27]

its worth every cent for a HD 7770 and it overclocks well

 

[ttechf]

The 7770 is somewhere between 3-4x the speed of HD 4000. It's absolutely an improvement.

Are you just trying to game? What resolution are you running?

Well it's not really nothing to do with gaming. I'd like to in the future but nothing heavy and I don't need crazy resolution to do it.

I'll be buying a 27 inch Asus monitor. Really, I just think it's better having a graphics card, especially when I'm trying to decide to have Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge in the new HTPC I am trying to price up and build. I like Sandy Bridge due to the low heat, but Ivy due to it's newer architecture but it seems if that card is 3-4 times better than HD4000, then Sandy Bridge would be a good choice for me as theres no real reason I can think of to get Ivy Bridge?


Thanks : )

 

[Homeles]

I like Sandy Bridge due to the low heat, but Ivy due to it's newer architecture but it seems if that card is 3-4 times better than HD4000, then Sandy Bridge would be a good choice for me as theres no real reason I can think of to get Ivy Bridge?

Ivy Bridge generates less heat than Sandy bridge. The chip runs hotter, but the total amount of heat generated is lower.

Anyways, if you're not using the IGP, Sandy Bridge might be the better idea if you're able to pick it up for less money.

 

[ttechf]

Ivy Bridge generates less heat than Sandy bridge. The chip runs hotter, but the total amount of heat generated is lower.

Anyways, if you're not using the IGP, Sandy Bridge might be the better idea if you're able to pick it up for less money.

Well yeah, I can get the i7-2700k for about $60 less than the i7-3770k, lol. When overclocked [and not even that high] the i7-2700k is within spitting distance of performance to the i7-3770k. At least that's what I've read on several places thus far.

 

[Arkadrel]

Pictures:

 

[ttechf]

Thanks for that. Appreciate it. : )

 

[RussianSensation]

HD7770 is an awful videocard. Stay away.

What you want is to catch a deal on a $100 HD6850 or $120-130 for HD6870. HD6870 is 35% faster than the HD7770.

HD7750/7770 are the most disappointing videocards for the $ that AMD has made in the last 4 years. Seriously, don't waste your $ on those. These cards don't deserve HD7000 series branding.

 

[Homeles]

HD7770 is an awful videocard. Stay away.

What you want is to catch a deal on a $100 HD6850 or $120-130 for HD6870. HD6870 is 35% faster than the HD7770.

HD7750/7770 are the most disappointing videocards for the $ that AMD has made in the last 4 years. Seriously, don't waste your $ on those. These cards don't deserve HD7000 series branding.

Not really any more disappointing than any other GPUs this generation. Heck, the GT640 is far and away a larger disappointment.

Really, if you've been paying any attention to AMD's nomenclature since the 6000 series, you'd realize that the 7770 and 7750 are successors to the 6770 and 5770, with the 7770 having slightly higher power draw and therefore having the need for a power connector. It doesn't look bad at all in that light.

So, before you go and call the 7000 series a disappointment, be sure to express your disappointment with Nvidia's answer, the GT640. It's no wonder why AMD has priced their "value" cards so high.

 

[ttechf]

I'm actually not looking to do any intensive gaming, just a good value card for under $145, that is better than the integrated graphics. I know the 7770 can handle SOME gaming.

 

[Homeles]

I'm actually not looking to do any intensive gaming, just a good value card for under $145, that is better than the integrated graphics. I know the 7770 can handle SOME gaming.

The 7770 is your best option in that price range. Still, it's a shame that prices are so bloated right now... the thing shouldn't be selling for much more than $100.

 

[ttechf]

The 7770 is your best option in that price range. Still, it's a shame that prices are so bloated right now... the thing shouldn't be selling for much more than $100.

Well Im not buying right now today, probably not for another couple of months. So who knows. Also, I was looking and the 6870 IS a better card than the 7770 and is the same price.


http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html

 

[nsavop]

You can get a 6870 for $129 AR which is much faster then the 7770.

 

[Jaydip]

+1 for the 6870

 

[KompuKare]

Not really any more disappointing than any other GPUs this generation. Heck, the GT640 is far and away a larger disappointment.

Really, if you've been paying any attention to AMD's nomenclature since the 6000 series, you'd realize that the 7770 and 7750 are successors to the 6770 and 5770, with the 7770 having slightly higher power draw and therefore having the need for a power connector. It doesn't look bad at all in that light.

So, before you go and call the 7000 series a disappointment, be sure to express your disappointment with Nvidia's answer, the GT640. It's no wonder why AMD has priced their "value" cards so high.

+1. I though that Cape Verde was a disappointment given its transistor budget (1.5 billion is almost Barts but of course a 128-bit bus) but...

...only until I saw GT640. GK107 is 1.3 billion transistors and although so far I haven't seen the GDDR5 benched, but the DDR3 performs about the same as the 0.7 billion transistor HD6670.

 

[Meghan54]

You can get a 6870 for $129 AR which is much faster then the 7770.

You need to check your linked card.....when I go there, I see a 6870 for $155 AR, substantially more expensive than the cheapest 7770, an MSI which is hitting just around $110 AR. So, you're right, a 6870 is faster, but also more expensive (cheapest on Newegg right now is $150 AR).

The more equivalent card is the 6850....a toss-up as to which is faster. But the 6850 still has a little price penalty compared to the 7770 ($135 AR for the 6850 vs. $110 AR for the 7770).

So, you picks yer price and live with whatcha get.

 

[Arkadrel]

The thing with the 7770 is.... you cant overclock the GPU much (maybe 100-150+ mhz or so).

The memory overclocking goes up alot though:
1125 -> 1450-1550 mhz. (this helps aton cuz of the 128bit bus it has, it needs the extra Mem BW)

A 7770 @ 1150mhz core / 1450mhz memory is pretty much equal to a 6850.

Which considering this is pretty neat:
(7770) is a 128bit bus chip, with 16 RoPs around 123mm^2.
(6850) is a 256bit bus chip, with 32 RoPs around 255mm^2.

That said AMD should be makeing these puppies pretty cheap,
these cards should be around the 99$ mark.

 

[Homeles]

Also, I was looking and the 6870 IS a better card than the 7770 and is the same price.

If you can get a hold of one for that low, go for it.

 

[ttechf]

If you can get a hold of one for that low, go for it.

Okay, thanks, the difference after mail in rebate is like $5-$8 dollars or something. Thanks to everyone who helped me. : )

 

[Carson Dyle]

If there's no pressing need, buy the i7-3770k and run with the integrated graphics for a few days and see whether you really think it sucks (if you're not gaming, you won't). Then decide if you want/need a graphics card. At worst you lose a few days waiting for a card to be shipped to you. At best you wait until you do feel like gaming and everything is cheaper in a couple months time.

 

[WMD]

It's not really that bad but it's exceptionally good in 3d mark 11 and other tessellation bottlenecked benchmarks because high clocks which makes it look better than it really is.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

HD7770 is an awful videocard. Stay away.

What you want is to catch a deal on a $100 HD6850 or $120-130 for HD6870. HD6870 is 35% faster than the HD7770.

HD7750/7770 are the most disappointing videocards for the $ that AMD has made in the last 4 years. Seriously, don't waste your $ on those. These cards don't deserve HD7000 series branding.

Two words. "power consumption."

77x0 series are basically htpc / silent pc cards that are cake to passively cool, and are incidentally as powerful as midrange gaming cards from two years ago (5770).

The 5770 was $160 at launch, too.

Seems like gpu prices in general are higher than they used to be. 4670s were <$100.