How much advantage is gained for gaming using a Quad Vs a Dual?

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
how about choose any of the games on gamespot.com?

If you're not too busy having all that fun getting 12,000 distributed computing points, or watching your frames per second counter in gordian knot.

This is only if the average enthusiast takes time out of his eventful compiling and sorting of major databases to play some crysis.

Sure.. let me pop my Q6600ES on my 780i, migrate over my other 2 8800GTX's on my other machines.

And TRI-SLI. oh wait.. but you sold your machine, so it would be pointless... wanna have it out on laptop vs laptop?

I have a 8710P. But she has a T7700 @ 2.4ghz with 4gb ram. Nvidia NVS320 using moded drivers as an 8700M GT. But that would probably kill your Laptop unless your running a 8800M card, which i highly doubt.


Sorry jared... im not in your ballgame to compete against. Your picking the wrong person to go up against.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: jaredpace
how about choose any of the games on gamespot.com?

If you're not too busy having all that fun getting 12,000 distributed computing points, or watching your frames per second counter in gordian knot.

This is only if the average enthusiast takes time out of his eventful compiling and sorting of major databases to play some crysis.

Sure.. let me pop my Q6600ES on my 780i, migrate over my other 2 8800GTX's on my other machines.

And TRI-SLI. oh wait.. but you sold your machine, so it would be pointless... wanna have it out on laptop vs laptop?

I have a 8710P. But she has a T7700 @ 2.4ghz with 4gb ram. Nvidia NVS320 using moded drivers as an 8700M GT. But that would probably kill your Laptop unless your running a 8800M card, which i highly doubt.


Sorry jared... im not in your ballgame to compete against. Your picking the wrong person to go up against.

I'm not going up against you in any game, You know as well as i do that an overclocked e8400 is faster than an overclocked q6600 in every PC game except supreme commander.

and the e8400 is faster at stock vs. stock as well.


Oh, and its cheaper

so that will give you more Cash to spend on your triple 8800gtx setup (which also works with a dual core penryn.)

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: jaredpace

so that will give you more Cash to spend on your triple 8800gtx setup (which also works with a dual core penryn.)

And how would having more cash help when i can already get both?

Uhhh actually i already have both, just triple 8800GTX is split amungst 2 systems. And 1 is coming next week from the 420 dollar newegg deal that went on this week.

Budget only applies when you cant exceed it. If your budget fits everything, why would you want to compromise on what you want when you can get it?

This is what i mean about application which you cant understand. An analogy is you telling people go go out and buy civics because they eat little gas, and are fairly cheap. Then your telling all the BMW and BENZ owners to ditch there car because its old technology and uses too much gas.

Sorry, id rather pull up in a BENZ then a CIVIC expecially when i meet my clients. But id take the civic if i was going shopping for groceries.

Do you understand now?

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: jaredpace

so that will give you more Cash to spend on your triple 8800gtx setup (which also works with a dual core penryn.)

And how would having more cash help when i can already get both?

Uhhh actually i already have both, just triple 8800GTX is split amungst 2 systems. And 1 is coming next week from the 420 dollar newegg deal that went on this week.

Budget only applies when you cant exceed it. If your budget fits everything, why would you want to compromise on what you want when you can get it?

This is what i mean about application which you cant understand. An analogy is you telling people go go out and buy civics because they eat little gas, and are fairly cheap. Then your telling all the BMW and BENZ owners to ditch there car because its old technology and uses too gas.

Sorry, id rather pull up in a BENZ then a CIVIC expecially when i meet my clients. But id take the civic if i was going shopping for groceries.

Do you understand now?

makes sense, but the civic is still faster in games, and that is the subject which you keep avoiding.

Does that make any sense to you?

edit: seems to me like you are bragging about your q6600 comparing it to a benz, and calling a cheaper e8400 a honda civic.

If you like to use your computer and say, "ah great, this is a benz" then so be it.

If you want it to run games faster, it won't

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: jaredpace

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: jaredpace

so that will give you more Cash to spend on your triple 8800gtx setup (which also works with a dual core penryn.)

And how would having more cash help when i can already get both?

Uhhh actually i already have both, just triple 8800GTX is split amungst 2 systems. And 1 is coming next week from the 420 dollar newegg deal that went on this week.

Budget only applies when you cant exceed it. If your budget fits everything, why would you want to compromise on what you want when you can get it?

This is what i mean about application which you cant understand. An analogy is you telling people go go out and buy civics because they eat little gas, and are fairly cheap. Then your telling all the BMW and BENZ owners to ditch there car because its old technology and uses too gas.

Sorry, id rather pull up in a BENZ then a CIVIC expecially when i meet my clients. But id take the civic if i was going shopping for groceries.

Do you understand now?

makes sense, but the civic is still faster in games, and that is the subject which you keep avoiding.

Does that make any sense to you?

edit: seems to me like you are bragging about your q6600 comparing it to a benz, and calling a cheaper e8400 a honda civic.

If you like to use your computer and say, "ah great, this is a benz" then so be it.

If you want it to run games faster, it won't

Well, not all games, and not for sure in the future. I believe that there is at least one game that makes use of a quad, and there will be more to come. "except supreme commander. " By your own admission is faster on a quad.

Your rant goes on in all the threads ???

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: jaredpace

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: jaredpace

so that will give you more Cash to spend on your triple 8800gtx setup (which also works with a dual core penryn.)

And how would having more cash help when i can already get both?

Uhhh actually i already have both, just triple 8800GTX is split amungst 2 systems. And 1 is coming next week from the 420 dollar newegg deal that went on this week.

Budget only applies when you cant exceed it. If your budget fits everything, why would you want to compromise on what you want when you can get it?

This is what i mean about application which you cant understand. An analogy is you telling people go go out and buy civics because they eat little gas, and are fairly cheap. Then your telling all the BMW and BENZ owners to ditch there car because its old technology and uses too gas.

Sorry, id rather pull up in a BENZ then a CIVIC expecially when i meet my clients. But id take the civic if i was going shopping for groceries.

Do you understand now?

makes sense, but the civic is still faster in games, and that is the subject which you keep avoiding.

Does that make any sense to you?

edit: seems to me like you are bragging about your q6600 comparing it to a benz, and calling a cheaper e8400 a honda civic.

If you like to use your computer and say, "ah great, this is a benz" then so be it.

If you want it to run games faster, it won't

And what if someone comes with a QX9650. Your comment still aplies? The QX9650 will oc higher then a wolfdale. Fugger showed it off.

And if it follows the kentfield conroe scheme, it will be faster clock per clock then wolfdale. Right here your entire arguement = VOID.

Or even a Q9550? Same multi, cost more, im willing to bet under good cooling it would probably scale better then a E8400 Wolfdale like the Q6600 are doing now vs the E6600.


Anyhow sorry for the explosion Zap (*twiddling my thumbs* ). This will be my last rant to this little kid. I dont think he understands why people buy computers to begin with. Once again i think your just ranting cuz you couldnt get what you wanted off your computer. And it was causing too many problems for you to debug and keep. So ultimately you sacrificed and said f it, i'll get a laptop.

 

[Tempered81]

@mark: this thread is titled, "how much of an advantage is gained in gaming using quad versus dual?"

The game you're thinking of is "Supreme Commander". But so far, that is the only game which is better on a quad.

 

[Tempered81]

@aigomorla:

Yes, a qx9650 will Overclock better than an e8400 and outscore it stock and overclocked in just about every video game. But it costs over a grand.

I think what the average gamer in this thread is concerned about is a mainstream quad vs. a mainstream dual. And i still think an e8400 would beat a q9550 in games, when both are overclocked. And the q9550 will cost about twice as much as the e8400.

According to you, people buy computers to do distributed computing quickly. I think people buy computers to be productive, and to entertain themselves on when not being productive.

Back on topic, an overclocked e8400 is faster than an overclocked q6600 in games.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
@mark: this thread is titled, "how much of an advantage is gained in gaming using quad versus dual?"

The game you're thinking of is "Supreme Commander". But so far, that is the only game which is better on a quad.

Yes, thats the title, and quads ARE faster in one game today, and next year it may be 10 games the are faster in, so my argument is complete, and by your own admissions now, they are faster.

Edit: as to this quote:

Back on topic, an overclocked e8400 is faster than an overclocked q6600 in games.

That only applies to most games, and only today, not next year...

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: jaredpace
@mark: this thread is titled, "how much of an advantage is gained in gaming using quad versus dual?"

The game you're thinking of is "Supreme Commander". But so far, that is the only game which is better on a quad.

Yes, thats the title, and quads ARE faster in one game today, and next year it may be 10 games the are faster in, so my argument is complete, and by your own admissions now, they are faster.

Lol.

If they are faster in One game, that does not make them faster in 1000 games.

that means the dual core penryns are faster in the other 999 games.

 

[konakona]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: jaredpace
@mark: this thread is titled, "how much of an advantage is gained in gaming using quad versus dual?"

The game you're thinking of is "Supreme Commander". But so far, that is the only game which is better on a quad.

Yes, thats the title, and quads ARE faster in one game today, and next year it may be 10 games the are faster in, so my argument is complete, and by your own admissions now, they are faster.

Edit: as to this quote:

Back on topic, an overclocked e8400 is faster than an overclocked q6600 in games.

That only applies to most games, and only today, not next year...

Maybe it is just me, but I get a feeling people in this thread are arguing for the sake of arguing, not what really counts toward answering OP's question. So what if quads become faster eventually, when both platforms have nearly phased out? More often than not when you have to bet on something that claims to be quasi future proof, I would bet on the side that says no. Regardless of whether the claims actually get substantiated or not, it is time that matters above all.

jared is right (I think) about an e8400 being faster than a q6600 in overwhelming majority of gaming situations, and aigo is right about building systems depending on the needs of the user in question. But you guys still persist to argue... I noticed how jared posted a thread on quad bashing and there is some bad blood going on between some of you people here. Though I hate to act like a mod here, I suggest you take that arguing out of this thread if you will.

now, read this:

I don't really need the quad core capability for what I'm doing so what I'd like to know is, would it be worth it to put the Q6600 in my new board and overclock it, versus leaving things the way they are now?

I guess what I really want to know is, how much more will the Q6600 increase my gaming experience Vs just the Dual Core? I'm using an 8800GT for the videocard if that helps any. Thanks in advance!

From what I can tell, the OP did not ask for any suggestions for a new build for general use. He already has both a dual core AND a quad core, and wants to know which would be faster for gaming, and gaming only. As far as I am concerned, SC alone is about enough reason for me to go out and buy a physX card so I could glorify their custom made demos all day.

BTW, this happens to be a topic I have been quite interested myself for quite some time, and cardio appears the most helpful respondent here. Good to know gaming could be enjoyed at the same level for us that cant afford multiple GTXs like nobody's business.

Come to think of it though, you could be right about quad cores being a worthwhile investment for gaming, in the sense that historically CPU has played relatively insginficant role in gaming compared to video in terms of demands for upgrade to stay aflot. So if you get a quad now, the chance are you wouldnt need another CPU upgrade for years to come where the only difference is quad vs dual rather than clock speed and IPC. (though I still doubt this)

 

[djnsmith7]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: jaredpace
how about choose any of the games on gamespot.com?

If you're not too busy having all that fun getting 12,000 distributed computing points, or watching your frames per second counter in gordian knot.

This is only if the average enthusiast takes time out of his eventful compiling and sorting of major databases to play some crysis.

Sure.. let me pop my Q6600ES on my 780i, migrate over my other 2 8800GTX's on my other machines.

And TRI-SLI. oh wait.. but you sold your machine, so it would be pointless... wanna have it out on laptop vs laptop?

I have a 8710P. But she has a T7700 @ 2.4ghz with 4gb ram. Nvidia NVS320 using moded drivers as an 8700M GT. But that would probably kill your Laptop unless your running a 8800M card, which i highly doubt.


Sorry jared... im not in your ballgame to compete against. Your picking the wrong person to go up against.

I'll be your huckleberry ...

I'll have (3) 9800GTX's at release...