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How MS will end the Dell - Intel love-in

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TDiddy

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Over the past three years, Dell has hinted time and again that it will pick up AMD's 64-bit Opteron processor. Dell, however, has never actually made the move to AMD, saying it won't do so until customers beg for a second supplier. Well, come mid-2005, Dell's customers may start begging.

In the middle of next year, AMD will beat Intel to market with a dual-core 64-bit x86 processor. Intel isn't expected to match AMD with a similar product until the first quarter of 2006. That gives AMD at least six months to pound away on the singular message that it's the obvious choice for Microsoft customers - or at least those Microsoft customers that care about the price of their software.

http://www.theregister.com/200...24/microsoft_dell_amd/
 
Yeah I saw that on AMDZone. AMD is in a good position with Microsoft right now. They could really gain some marketshare in certain markets.



Jason
 
Wish I would have bought some AMD stock back in the day. I could say the same about a few others too
 
Originally posted by: Rhin0
Wish I would have bought some AMD stock back in the day. I could say the same about a few others too
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In the past 8 weeks or so, I think its went up ~20-30%.

Im only learning about the Stock Markets and the like in my Degree course now and Im very loosely following AMD for some impression of how my studies relates to real life.

Wish Id have invested then, decent profit there IMO.
 
I can tell you, working in the IT business world, that most companies and government agencies will continue to buy Intel CPUs and mobos from Dell.

If you buy AMD and something goes wrong, even today, your peers will question your business sense and IT knowledge. If you buy Intel and something goes wrong, well, it's Intel, who would have thought? Your reputation is untarnished.

As unfair as that may sound, that is the reality. Even with a 64-bit platform, Intel processors provide the power that is needed to do most office production tasks.

I recently built an Asus A8V Wi-Fi deluxe mobo with a 3800+ and 1GB RAM, and it didn't work for the first three months I had it. We got it to work, and then added a case fan and it quit. It is sitting here gathering dust. Fortunately it was just a test rig for work, and no one is blaming me.

I have a 925 board, 3.46 CPU, 4GB RAM, 500GB SATA (40GB PATA), PCI-E 256MB components coming in soon, and I anticipate NO problems with this rig going together and starting up.

Until AMD and it's suppliers can deliver that kind of reliability in the business world, I don't think business users will be ordering these boxes from Dell. We do 350 units from Dell per year, and I for one won't recommend these boxes ... yet!
 
Originally posted by: mmcdonalataocdotgov
I can tell you, working in the IT business world, that most companies and government agencies will continue to buy Intel CPUs and mobos from Dell.

If you buy AMD and something goes wrong, even today, your peers will question your business sense and IT knowledge. If you buy Intel and something goes wrong, well, it's Intel, who would have thought? Your reputation is untarnished.

As unfair as that may sound, that is the reality. Even with a 64-bit platform, Intel processors provide the power that is needed to do most office production tasks.

I recently built an Asus A8V Wi-Fi deluxe mobo with a 3800+ and 1GB RAM, and it didn't work for the first three months I had it. We got it to work, and then added a case fan and it quit. It is sitting here gathering dust. Fortunately it was just a test rig for work, and no one is blaming me.

I have a 925 board, 3.46 CPU, 4GB RAM, 500GB SATA (40GB PATA), PCI-E 256MB components coming in soon, and I anticipate NO problems with this rig going together and starting up.

Until AMD and it's suppliers can deliver that kind of reliability in the business world, I don't think business users will be ordering these boxes from Dell. We do 350 units from Dell per year, and I for one won't recommend these boxes ... yet!
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Yes, cause no Intel machine has ever broken.

Seriously the Opterons are awesome and have the same reliability as any Intel CPU. The dual core Opterons are going to be great.

I have no clue why YOU can't make a machine work. I have seen many offices run exclusively run on AMD machines.
 
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: mmcdonalataocdotgov
I can tell you, working in the IT business world, that most companies and government agencies will continue to buy Intel CPUs and mobos from Dell.

If you buy AMD and something goes wrong, even today, your peers will question your business sense and IT knowledge. If you buy Intel and something goes wrong, well, it's Intel, who would have thought? Your reputation is untarnished.

As unfair as that may sound, that is the reality. Even with a 64-bit platform, Intel processors provide the power that is needed to do most office production tasks.

I recently built an Asus A8V Wi-Fi deluxe mobo with a 3800+ and 1GB RAM, and it didn't work for the first three months I had it. We got it to work, and then added a case fan and it quit. It is sitting here gathering dust. Fortunately it was just a test rig for work, and no one is blaming me.

I have a 925 board, 3.46 CPU, 4GB RAM, 500GB SATA (40GB PATA), PCI-E 256MB components coming in soon, and I anticipate NO problems with this rig going together and starting up.

Until AMD and it's suppliers can deliver that kind of reliability in the business world, I don't think business users will be ordering these boxes from Dell. We do 350 units from Dell per year, and I for one won't recommend these boxes ... yet!
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Yes, cause no Intel machine has ever broken.

Seriously the Opterons are awesome and have the same reliability as any Intel CPU. The dual core Opterons are going to be great.

I have no clue why YOU can't make a machine work. I have seen many offices run exclusively run on AMD machines.
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I see what he's saying though. Intel is percieved as being the more stable platform. If an AMD machine goes bad, instead of replacing with another AMD, many IT people (and non-IT decision makers) will first blame AMD and purchase an Intel machine to replace it. If that machine then works, it is often concluded that AMD was the problem and Intel appears superior.
 
Originally posted by: mmcdonalataocdotgov
I can tell you, working in the IT business world, that most companies and government agencies will continue to buy Intel CPUs and mobos from Dell.

If you buy AMD and something goes wrong, even today, your peers will question your business sense and IT knowledge. If you buy Intel and something goes wrong, well, it's Intel, who would have thought? Your reputation is untarnished.

As unfair as that may sound, that is the reality. Even with a 64-bit platform, Intel processors provide the power that is needed to do most office production tasks.

I recently built an Asus A8V Wi-Fi deluxe mobo with a 3800+ and 1GB RAM, and it didn't work for the first three months I had it. We got it to work, and then added a case fan and it quit. It is sitting here gathering dust. Fortunately it was just a test rig for work, and no one is blaming me.

I have a 925 board, 3.46 CPU, 4GB RAM, 500GB SATA (40GB PATA), PCI-E 256MB components coming in soon, and I anticipate NO problems with this rig going together and starting up.

Until AMD and it's suppliers can deliver that kind of reliability in the business world, I don't think business users will be ordering these boxes from Dell. We do 350 units from Dell per year, and I for one won't recommend these boxes ... yet!
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I'll disagree a bit with that.
Intel has a great mindshare, but in the end, companies buy systems from top tier OEM's, HP, IBM, Dell, etc.
I'd have no trouble buying an Opteron based box as long as HP is willing to sell it under the Proliant name, if HP has enough confidence in it, I have too.

We're looking at a few new database servers in the not so distant future for example, and we're considering the ProLiant DL585, both for it's excellent performance and for the 64bit addressing.
HP backs it just the same as they back their other ProLiants, and that's good enough for us.
 
mmcdonalataocdotgov,

Your testimonial is one I have seen stated by many others in your position, and in the past there has been good reason for it, but that metality isn't as prevalent anymore. While you may still consider AMD less stable and risky, evidently others do not. Opteron server sales are growing by leaps and bounds 😉
 
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