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how many people died in the holocaust?

Originally posted by: BaboonGuy
what's the holocaust?
rolleye.gif

 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Total number....

All I can turn up is the number of Jewish people that died.

Use encyclopedia.com...

name given to the period of persecution and extermination of European Jews by Nazi Germany

yet another site that only focuses on the jews who died.... there were plenty of other victims besides the jews, just not in as great of numbers....
 
6 million I've heard. but im not sure if thats just the jewish people. More people died in Russia tho 22 million from the war I think.
 
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Total number....

All I can turn up is the number of Jewish people that died.

Use encyclopedia.com...

name given to the period of persecution and extermination of European Jews by Nazi Germany

yet another site that only focuses on the jews who died.... there were plenty of other victims besides the jews, just not in as great of numbers....

6 million jews died.. Homosexuals, the disabled, and some other ethnic groups died as well but they were cleary not the main focus... Why is the focus on jews? Not some liberal jew conspiracy - 6 MILLION OF THEM WERE SLAUGHTERED.. so dig a little deeper for your number.. just don't get pissy (I hint that you're being a bit pissy about the other groups not getting equal recognition)
 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Total number....

All I can turn up is the number of Jewish people that died.

Use encyclopedia.com...

name given to the period of persecution and extermination of European Jews by Nazi Germany

yet another site that only focuses on the jews who died.... there were plenty of other victims besides the jews, just not in as great of numbers....

6 million jews died.. Homosexuals, the disabled, and some other ethnic groups died as well but they were cleary not the main focus... Why is the focus on jews? Not some liberal jew conspiracy - 6 MILLION OF THEM WERE SLAUGHTERED.. so dig a little deeper for your number.. just don't get pissy (I hint that you're being a bit pissy about the other groups not getting equal recognition)

Their deaths dont deserve to overshadow the other 5million. But they do.
 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Total number....

All I can turn up is the number of Jewish people that died.

Use encyclopedia.com...

name given to the period of persecution and extermination of European Jews by Nazi Germany

yet another site that only focuses on the jews who died.... there were plenty of other victims besides the jews, just not in as great of numbers....

6 million jews died.. Homosexuals, the disabled, and some other ethnic groups died as well but they were cleary not the main focus... Why is the focus on jews? Not some liberal jew conspiracy - 6 MILLION OF THEM WERE SLAUGHTERED.. so dig a little deeper for your number.. just don't get pissy (I hint that you're being a bit pissy about the other groups not getting equal recognition)
Honestly the only post in this thread that resembles "pissy" is yours..
 
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Total number....

All I can turn up is the number of Jewish people that died.

Use encyclopedia.com...

name given to the period of persecution and extermination of European Jews by Nazi Germany

yet another site that only focuses on the jews who died.... there were plenty of other victims besides the jews, just not in as great of numbers....

6 million jews died.. Homosexuals, the disabled, and some other ethnic groups died as well but they were cleary not the main focus... Why is the focus on jews? Not some liberal jew conspiracy - 6 MILLION OF THEM WERE SLAUGHTERED.. so dig a little deeper for your number.. just don't get pissy (I hint that you're being a bit pissy about the other groups not getting equal recognition)
Honestly the only post in this thread that resembles "pissy" is yours..

Hey, I was just picking up some vibes from the OP comment.. No need to jump in my friend... I'm too dehydrated to get into a pissing contest.. Maybe some arm wrestling .. though via a flash based website...
 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Total number....

All I can turn up is the number of Jewish people that died.

Use encyclopedia.com...

name given to the period of persecution and extermination of European Jews by Nazi Germany

yet another site that only focuses on the jews who died.... there were plenty of other victims besides the jews, just not in as great of numbers....

6 million jews died.. Homosexuals, the disabled, and some other ethnic groups died as well but they were cleary not the main focus... Why is the focus on jews? Not some liberal jew conspiracy - 6 MILLION OF THEM WERE SLAUGHTERED.. so dig a little deeper for your number.. just don't get pissy (I hint that you're being a bit pissy about the other groups not getting equal recognition)

Well I just read a few links online about how the soviets overestimated the numbers of their jewish people killed by 3.5 million. If true, it would put the numbers of jews killed at 2.5 million and not 6 million....

I just need the overall total for a paper im finishin right now

 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Total number....

All I can turn up is the number of Jewish people that died.

Use encyclopedia.com...

name given to the period of persecution and extermination of European Jews by Nazi Germany

yet another site that only focuses on the jews who died.... there were plenty of other victims besides the jews, just not in as great of numbers....

6 million jews died.. Homosexuals, the disabled, and some other ethnic groups died as well but they were cleary not the main focus... Why is the focus on jews? Not some liberal jew conspiracy - 6 MILLION OF THEM WERE SLAUGHTERED.. so dig a little deeper for your number.. just don't get pissy (I hint that you're being a bit pissy about the other groups not getting equal recognition)
Honestly the only post in this thread that resembles "pissy" is yours..

Hey, I was just picking up some vibes from the OP comment.. No need to jump in my friend... I'm too dehydrated to get into a pissing contest.. Maybe some arm wrestling .. though via a flash based website...
Lol... just making an observation, no worries. Have a glass of water on me. :water;😀

 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Total number....

All I can turn up is the number of Jewish people that died.

Use encyclopedia.com...

name given to the period of persecution and extermination of European Jews by Nazi Germany

yet another site that only focuses on the jews who died.... there were plenty of other victims besides the jews, just not in as great of numbers....

6 million jews died.. Homosexuals, the disabled, and some other ethnic groups died as well but they were cleary not the main focus... Why is the focus on jews? Not some liberal jew conspiracy - 6 MILLION OF THEM WERE SLAUGHTERED.. so dig a little deeper for your number.. just don't get pissy (I hint that you're being a bit pissy about the other groups not getting equal recognition)

Also Stalin's numbers are just as shocking as Hitlers. He slaughtered 2million Soviet Muslims, 7million Ukranians, 2million germans. Thats the reason why present day Russia has a problem in Chechnya.
 
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Total number....

All I can turn up is the number of Jewish people that died.

Use encyclopedia.com...

name given to the period of persecution and extermination of European Jews by Nazi Germany

yet another site that only focuses on the jews who died.... there were plenty of other victims besides the jews, just not in as great of numbers....

6 million jews died.. Homosexuals, the disabled, and some other ethnic groups died as well but they were cleary not the main focus... Why is the focus on jews? Not some liberal jew conspiracy - 6 MILLION OF THEM WERE SLAUGHTERED.. so dig a little deeper for your number.. just don't get pissy (I hint that you're being a bit pissy about the other groups not getting equal recognition)

Well I just read a few links online about how the soviets overestimated the numbers of their jewish people killed by 3.5 million. If true, it would put the numbers of jews killed at 2.5 million and not 6 million....

I just need the overall total for a paper im finishin right now

Hey, you do NOT want to post that stat that you got from some website.. Post the accepted number - 6 million jews.. I had a holocaust lit class and we dug into that number..The number is in fact 5,XXX,XXX... The thing about the holocaust is that they documented every death.. There was no estimate - we know how many people died (The nazis were very clinical about everything).. I'm digging for a site with the number of non-jew deaths..
 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Jewish deaths - exact number is between 5,596,029 and 5,860,129 (60% of their population)]http://www.arts.monash.edu.au/affiliates/hlc/holocaust/statistics/losses.html

Missed that.
 
wow.. 6+ million jews and 5 to 6 million non-jews (homosexuals, catholics, etc.)

Question
Is there a resource detailing the breakdown of deaths i.e. Jews, Catholics, etc? Also, is there a breakdown of the types of deaths involved - gassing, starvation, firing squad, etc. and a detail of other crimes committed - rape, experiments on humans using Jews and others as test subjects?

Gordon McFee answers:
I just noticed that your question had not yet ben answered. Sorry about that.

Most statistical breakdowns I have seen list the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust. The estimates vary from around 4.1 to 6.0 million, with more recent research supporting an even higher figure. Hilberg's Destruction of the European Jews gives a detailed breakdown of Jewish deaths. It is estimated that another 5-6 million non-Jews (Gypsies, homosexuals, prisoners of war - especially Russians - were killed during the Holocaust period.

As for the methods, Hilberg (op.cit.) gives a breakdown for Jews.

Hope this helps a bit.
 

Overall jewish population prior to WWII was 17million. The jewish population lost 1/3.

More telling is Poland, they lost 6million of their people, 3million jews, 3million catholics to the Holocaust. In total 11million people died in the German Holocaust, 6million jews, 5million others. At the same time Stalin slaughtered 7million Ukranians, and 2million soviet muslims, the two years after the war he continued to kill upwards to 2million germans. Like someone else said the "jewish holocaust" gets more attention than it deserves, there were just as many other astrosities in WWII.
 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Total number....

All I can turn up is the number of Jewish people that died.

Use encyclopedia.com...

name given to the period of persecution and extermination of European Jews by Nazi Germany

yet another site that only focuses on the jews who died.... there were plenty of other victims besides the jews, just not in as great of numbers....

6 million jews died.. Homosexuals, the disabled, and some other ethnic groups died as well but they were cleary not the main focus... Why is the focus on jews? Not some liberal jew conspiracy - 6 MILLION OF THEM WERE SLAUGHTERED.. so dig a little deeper for your number.. just don't get pissy (I hint that you're being a bit pissy about the other groups not getting equal recognition)

the amount of attention given to the holocaust is still disproportionate, given other atrocities that have occured in history, imo (like the japanese occupation of china).
 
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Total number....

All I can turn up is the number of Jewish people that died.

Use encyclopedia.com...

name given to the period of persecution and extermination of European Jews by Nazi Germany

yet another site that only focuses on the jews who died.... there were plenty of other victims besides the jews, just not in as great of numbers....

6 million jews died.. Homosexuals, the disabled, and some other ethnic groups died as well but they were cleary not the main focus... Why is the focus on jews? Not some liberal jew conspiracy - 6 MILLION OF THEM WERE SLAUGHTERED.. so dig a little deeper for your number.. just don't get pissy (I hint that you're being a bit pissy about the other groups not getting equal recognition)

the amount of attention given to the holocaust is still disproportionate, given other atrocities that have occured in history, imo.

A friend of mine had a talk about that the other day.. I just think that the holocaust gets a lot of attention (deserved or not I won't say) because it's in people's recent memories and involved people who have are an important part of american culture... Americans don't really know much about what they don't experience first hand.. Armenian genocides? What's Armenia? Jewish people a major part of our popular culture and society and there are still people whom are alive today who have first hand memories of the events (show me a native american who witness the European slaughter of the natives and I'll give you a cookie).. So it's not an odd conspiracy, it's just that we're narrow minded people who don't know much about history!
 
A friend of mine had a talk about that the other day.. I just think that the holocaust gets a lot of attention (deserved or not I won't say) because it's in people's recent memories and involved people who have are an important part of american culture... Americans don't really know much about what they don't experience first hand.. Armenian genocides? What's Armenia? Jewish people a major part of our popular culture and society and there are still people whom are alive today who have first hand memories of the events (show me a native american who witness the European slaughter of the natives and I'll give you a cookie).. So it's not an odd conspiracy, it's just that we're narrow minded people who don't know much about history!

yes i agree... i don't think it is a conspiracy, just that jewish people are really good at pushing for things that are important to them. the event i had in mind was the occupation of china by japan in wwii. which is obviously just as recent... the difference is that most survivors just wanted to forget about it, nobody made a huge deal out of it like was done with the holocaust. and they're a smaller part of american culture to begin with. but more and more stuff is starting to come out, i just wish schools would spend even a fraction of what they spend on the holocaust on it. well and that the chinese were more like their jewish counterparts to begin with.
 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Total number....

All I can turn up is the number of Jewish people that died.

Use encyclopedia.com...

name given to the period of persecution and extermination of European Jews by Nazi Germany

yet another site that only focuses on the jews who died.... there were plenty of other victims besides the jews, just not in as great of numbers....

6 million jews died.. Homosexuals, the disabled, and some other ethnic groups died as well but they were cleary not the main focus... Why is the focus on jews? Not some liberal jew conspiracy - 6 MILLION OF THEM WERE SLAUGHTERED.. so dig a little deeper for your number.. just don't get pissy (I hint that you're being a bit pissy about the other groups not getting equal recognition)

the amount of attention given to the holocaust is still disproportionate, given other atrocities that have occured in history, imo.

A friend of mine had a talk about that the other day.. I just think that the holocaust gets a lot of attention (deserved or not I won't say) because it's in people's recent memories and involved people who have are an important part of american culture... Americans don't really know much about what they don't experience first hand.. Armenian genocides? What's Armenia? Jewish people a major part of our popular culture and society and there are still people whom are alive today who have first hand memories of the events (show me a native american who witness the European slaughter of the natives and I'll give you a cookie).. So it's not an odd conspiracy, it's just that we're narrow minded people who don't know much about history!

How many innocents did Japan slaughter? How many innocents did Stalin slaughter? Stalin slaughtered more people than Hitler, and Japan did a nasty number on China. I dont know the number of Polish, Russians, Ukranians, and Chinese in the US, but there are only 6million jews in the US, 12.9million worldwide. Stalin used the Holocaust to cover up his own misdeeds.
 
Originally posted by: gopunk
A friend of mine had a talk about that the other day.. I just think that the holocaust gets a lot of attention (deserved or not I won't say) because it's in people's recent memories and involved people who have are an important part of american culture... Americans don't really know much about what they don't experience first hand.. Armenian genocides? What's Armenia? Jewish people a major part of our popular culture and society and there are still people whom are alive today who have first hand memories of the events (show me a native american who witness the European slaughter of the natives and I'll give you a cookie).. So it's not an odd conspiracy, it's just that we're narrow minded people who don't know much about history!

yes i agree... i don't think it is a conspiracy, just that jewish people are really good at pushing for things that are important to them. the event i had in mind was the occupation of china by japan in wwii. which is obviously just as recent... the difference is that most survivors just wanted to forget about it, nobody made a huge deal out of it like was done with the holocaust. and they're a smaller part of american culture to begin with. but more and more stuff is starting to come out, i just wish schools would spend even a fraction of what they spend on the holocaust on it. well and that the chinese were more like their jewish counterparts to begin with.

a) the schools don't teach much about the holocaust.. Most schools consider showing "schindler's list" their holocaust education program
b) jews are very vocal.. i'm not making a value judgement. but they make movies about it, talk about it, speak about it.. You're right, asians do not..
c) being asian I'm frustrated by asians american culture quite a bit.. we're VERY quiet about stuff.. we take a lot of sh1t and don't fight for our rights.. one example is the stereotype of an indian guy wearing a turban driving a cab saying somtehing stupid in a think indian accent (very popular in adam sandler like comedies).. now, i don't think it's harmful and I'm not the PC police.. but the fact is that if a black or jew was portrayed like that there would be protests.. indians and other asians do not protest so they don't get equal recognition.. it's as simple as that..
 
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