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conjur

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Originally posted by: Yzzim
LOL

Imperfection sucks ;)

And not to get too technical on ya, you'd have to actually take those lambs to sanctuary, have the sins be transfered from you to the lamb, then sacrafice the lamb on the altar of burnt offerings. After you were done with the lamb, the High Priest took the blood of the lamb into the "Holy Place" within the sanctuary and sprinkled the blood in front of the veil by the altar of incense.

So your sin pretty much went from you, to the lamb, to the sanctuary.

What made the sanctuary so important? Well, inside the sanctuary was the "Holy Place" where the High Preist did his work, and then the "Most Holy Place" where the Ark of the Covenant was held. Anyone who touched the Ark other then a High Preist was killed instantly :Q

Luckily for us, Christ is everything mentioned above.

What if the sanctuary burned? I guess a new Holy Place would have to be made? I wonder if I can just declare the dead spot in my backyard (where the kids' inflatable pool was) as a 'Holy Place'. And does it have to be a lamb? There's some riding stables next to my neighbor's lot...I could use a horse. That might be worth, what, 10 lambs??
 

GtPrOjEcTX

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Originally posted by: Yzzim
LOL

Imperfection sucks ;)

And not to get too technical on ya, you'd have to actually take those lambs to sanctuary, have the sins be transfered from you to the lamb, then sacrafice the lamb on the altar of burnt offerings. After you were done with the lamb, the High Priest took the blood of the lamb into the "Holy Place" within the sanctuary and sprinkled the blood in front of the veil by the altar of incense.

So your sin pretty much went from you, to the lamb, to the sanctuary.

What made the sanctuary so important? Well, inside the sanctuary was the "Holy Place" where the High Preist did his work, and then the "Most Holy Place" where the Ark of the Covenant was held. Anyone who touched the Ark other then a High Preist was killed instantly :Q

Luckily for us, Christ is everything mentioned above.
I thought that if anyone touched the Ark they were killed instantly. That's why they tied a rope around his legg to drag him out in the case that he did touch it (since no one could go in to get him back out)
 

Sleestak

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I've broken the following

3. Who hasn't?

4. Yeah right. Sunday is when I do yard work. Does the fact that I worship the NFL on Sundays mean I'm keeping the sabbath holy? Hmmm, maybe that means I've broken #1 as well.

7. I didn't know it the first time I did it, but I have had sex with married women.

8. When I was a kid I stole a pack of gum from a convenience store

10. I really needed an OX, couldn't help but covet my neighbor's. Ok actually when I was in college I thought my neighbor's wife was hot. Ended up hitting it a few times when he was out of town. Hey it was after the first time I broke #7 so I figured what the hell, why not do it again?

 

GtPrOjEcTX

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Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Too bad no one has broken any of these. The Ten Commandments aren't in effect any more. Since they aren't in effect, you can't break them.
are you all not reading this or just choosing to ignore it?
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Too bad no one has broken any of these. The Ten Commandments aren't in effect any more. Since they aren't in effect, you can't break them.
are you all not reading this or just choosing to ignore it?

We all must have missed the memo.
 

Metalloid

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Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Too bad no one has broken any of these. The Ten Commandments aren't in effect any more. Since they aren't in effect, you can't break them.
are you all not reading this or just choosing to ignore it?

Uh oh everyone hold up your lightning rods....

EDIT: Oh and by the way, when you die, tell that to God and maybe he will agee that it's a valid excuse to get into heaven.
 

GtPrOjEcTX

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Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Too bad no one has broken any of these. The Ten Commandments aren't in effect any more. Since they aren't in effect, you can't break them.
are you all not reading this or just choosing to ignore it?

Uh oh everyone hold up your lightning rods....

EDIT: Oh and by the way, when you die, tell that to God and maybe he will agee that it's a valid excuse to get into heaven.
so you're going by the old testament then? with all the animal sacrifices and such for every sin you commit? no? oh, okay then.

that's why the new testament is here. to do away with the old law and give a new better law.
 

Metalloid

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Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Too bad no one has broken any of these. The Ten Commandments aren't in effect any more. Since they aren't in effect, you can't break them.
are you all not reading this or just choosing to ignore it?

Uh oh everyone hold up your lightning rods....

EDIT: Oh and by the way, when you die, tell that to God and maybe he will agee that it's a valid excuse to get into heaven.
so you're going by the old testament then? with all the animal sacrifices and such for every sin you commit? no? oh, okay then.

that's why the new testament is here. to do away with the old law and give a new better law.

I agree paritally. The new testament does have a newer better set of guidelines for us to follow, and newer laws. But the new testemant also says to keep the ten commandments.
 

her209

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Wow you would think that since God is the supreme being, he would get his word to his people correct the first time :p

I've broken all of them, even the one about killing.
 

Yzzim

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Originally posted by: geno
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in] it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates: For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is,] and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
...as I post from work

Again, re-read the 4th commandment.

It says nothing about working on the first day of the week (sunday)
 

Yzzim

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Yzzim
LOL

Imperfection sucks ;)

And not to get too technical on ya, you'd have to actually take those lambs to sanctuary, have the sins be transfered from you to the lamb, then sacrafice the lamb on the altar of burnt offerings. After you were done with the lamb, the High Priest took the blood of the lamb into the "Holy Place" within the sanctuary and sprinkled the blood in front of the veil by the altar of incense.

So your sin pretty much went from you, to the lamb, to the sanctuary.

What made the sanctuary so important? Well, inside the sanctuary was the "Holy Place" where the High Preist did his work, and then the "Most Holy Place" where the Ark of the Covenant was held. Anyone who touched the Ark other then a High Preist was killed instantly :Q

Luckily for us, Christ is everything mentioned above.

What if the sanctuary burned? I guess a new Holy Place would have to be made? I wonder if I can just declare the dead spot in my backyard (where the kids' inflatable pool was) as a 'Holy Place'. And does it have to be a lamb? There's some riding stables next to my neighbor's lot...I could use a horse. That might be worth, what, 10 lambs??

hehe, I dunno about that.

The Sanctuary here on Earth (there's one up in heaven too) was protected by God 24/7. During the night God had a cloud of fire protect the sanctuary and provide light so all could see. Around the sanctuary were the twelve tribes of Israel so whenever someone sinned they got their lamb and then did their thing at the sanctuary.

pretty interesting stuff.
 

Yzzim

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Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Originally posted by: Yzzim
LOL

Imperfection sucks ;)

And not to get too technical on ya, you'd have to actually take those lambs to sanctuary, have the sins be transfered from you to the lamb, then sacrafice the lamb on the altar of burnt offerings. After you were done with the lamb, the High Priest took the blood of the lamb into the "Holy Place" within the sanctuary and sprinkled the blood in front of the veil by the altar of incense.

So your sin pretty much went from you, to the lamb, to the sanctuary.

What made the sanctuary so important? Well, inside the sanctuary was the "Holy Place" where the High Preist did his work, and then the "Most Holy Place" where the Ark of the Covenant was held. Anyone who touched the Ark other then a High Preist was killed instantly :Q

Luckily for us, Christ is everything mentioned above.
I thought that if anyone touched the Ark they were killed instantly. That's why they tied a rope around his legg to drag him out in the case that he did touch it (since no one could go in to get him back out)

Might be. I just remember the story of the ark being carried and somehow it started to fall. Some Israeli ran to hold the ark up, but once he touched it he died instantly.

Inside the ark is the Ten Commandments, Aaron's Rod, and right outside is Moses' Law (the ceremonial laws).
 

Yzzim

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Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Too bad no one has broken any of these. The Ten Commandments aren't in effect any more. Since they aren't in effect, you can't break them.
are you all not reading this or just choosing to ignore it?

Uh oh everyone hold up your lightning rods....

EDIT: Oh and by the way, when you die, tell that to God and maybe he will agee that it's a valid excuse to get into heaven.
so you're going by the old testament then? with all the animal sacrifices and such for every sin you commit? no? oh, okay then.

that's why the new testament is here. to do away with the old law and give a new better law.

I've heard this debate quite a bit. People say Christ "did away with" the Ten Commandments when He was on earth.

However, I find that very hard to believe.

Christ reaffirmed every single one of the Ten Commandments while He was here. Not once did he say to do away with Ten Commandments.

John 14:15 - If you love Me, keep My commandments

1 John 5: 2,3 - By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

When Christ came, he brought a new way for us to be saved. The old way (sacraficing a lamb through the sanctuary) was old and had to be done away with. Christ did away with that and that alone. Now when we break one of the ten commandments we only need to ask him for forgiveness and we are saved.

Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 

GtPrOjEcTX

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Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Metalloid15I agree paritally. The new testament does have a newer better set of guidelines for us to follow, and newer laws. But the new testemant also says to keep the ten commandments.
Verse please that states to keep the old laws commandments.
btw, this doesn't include verses such as "if you love me keep my commandments" - Jesus, because when Jesus came he brought a new set of laws, and these are His commandments he is speaking of.

Same to you Yzzim. He did not reaffirm EVERY commandment. If anything he broke it. He healed someone on the Sabbath, therefore "working', therefore breaking the 4th of the 10 commandments.

Obviously since he breaks on of these, when he says keep his commandments, "keeping the Sabbath holy" is not one of them. and since it is not one of them, the set of the 10 commandments is NOT what he is talking about.
 

Metalloid

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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Too bad no one has broken any of these. The Ten Commandments aren't in effect any more. Since they aren't in effect, you can't break them.
are you all not reading this or just choosing to ignore it?

Uh oh everyone hold up your lightning rods....

EDIT: Oh and by the way, when you die, tell that to God and maybe he will agee that it's a valid excuse to get into heaven.
so you're going by the old testament then? with all the animal sacrifices and such for every sin you commit? no? oh, okay then.

that's why the new testament is here. to do away with the old law and give a new better law.

I've heard this debate quite a bit. People say Christ "did away with" the Ten Commandments when He was on earth.

However, I find that very hard to believe.

Christ reaffirmed every single one of the Ten Commandments while He was here. Not once did he say to do away with Ten Commandments.

John 14:15 - If you love Me, keep My commandments

1 John 5: 2,3 - By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

When Christ came, he brought a new way for us to be saved. The old way (sacraficing a lamb through the sanctuary) was old and had to be done away with. Christ did away with that and that alone. Now when we break one of the ten commandments we only need to ask him for forgiveness and we are saved.

Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Couldn't have said it better.
 

Woody06

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Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Originally posted by: Metalloid15I agree paritally. The new testament does have a newer better set of guidelines for us to follow, and newer laws. But the new testemant also says to keep the ten commandments.
Verse please that states to keep the old laws commandments.
btw, this doesn't include verses such as "if you love me keep my commandments" - Jesus, because when Jesus came he brought a new set of laws, and these are His commandments he is speaking of.

Same to you Yzzim. He did not reaffirm EVERY commandment. If anything he broke it. He healed someone on the Sabbath, therefore "working', therefore breaking the 4th of the 10 commandments.

Obviously since he breaks on of these, when he says keep his commandments, "keeping the Sabbath holy" is not one of them. and since it is not one of them, the set of the 10 commandments is NOT what he is talking about.

I dont exactly see how healling was working, I mean maybe you could call it his job, but it was more an act of kindness.
 

GtPrOjEcTX

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let me find the verse... the pharisees accused him of working on the sabbath, therefore breaking the law...and Jesus came back with something...let me find it...hold