How many mandatory 360/PS3 updates have there been so far?

jdoggg12

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I'm just curious about how many have been done on each, anyone got any figures/estimates?
 

Aikouka

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Also, I'm not entirely sure any of the 360 ones are necessary to run the game. Certain PS3 games require certain firmware levels.
 

nboy22

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Anyone know when the next xbox 360 mandatory update is going to come out? I've heard they usually release a spring and fall update. I have a modded xbox and I would like to know when to pull the plug so I don't get banned from my Live service.
 

DaveSimmons

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PS3 updates are only mandatory if some new game or demo requires them, it's not like Sony will switch off your PS3 if you ignore them. Of the 18 I've only installed 6 or 7.

Does the 360 cut off Live access if you ignore an update?
 

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
PS3 updates are only mandatory if some new game or demo requires them, it's not like Sony will switch off your PS3 if you ignore them. Of the 18 I've only installed 6 or 7.

Does the 360 cut off Live access if you ignore an update?

you can't get onto the PSN store w/out updating though.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: CPA
And all are divisible by 3 :shocked:

so really, the 360 has had 2, the wii 3, and the PS3 6.
that sounds pretty manageable to me.
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Originally posted by: nboy22
Anyone know when the next xbox 360 mandatory update is going to come out? I've heard they usually release a spring and fall update.

Ya, the release two a year. Even though it seems like they may not release much since they have the fewest releases out of the 3 major consoles, they typically pack the most stuff in, since they prefer to do fewer updates with more features.

As far as the upcoming fall update, my guess is early December. They just announced the new parental controls, and said that they will be available in early December, so I'd be willing to bet that the fall update will be released with that as one large update.
 

Matt2

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Originally posted by: nboy22
Anyone know when the next xbox 360 mandatory update is going to come out? I've heard they usually release a spring and fall update. I have a modded xbox and I would like to know when to pull the plug so I don't get banned from my Live service.

Doesnt the Xbox ask you if you want to update before it actually updates?
 

erwos

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The 360 asks before it updates, whether it's the game or the dashboard. But if you say no, it won't let you on Xbox Live. If you say no in a game, it tosses you off XBL for the game. If you say no on the dashboard, you're cut off, period, from XBL. This makes sense from a security standpoint, but I suppose some people could find it annoying.

I would point out, though, that PS3 BC improvements are delivered through firmware, whereas the 360's BC improvements are through the game update mechanism. If you start tossing the BC updates in on the 360's number of "updates", it's much closer to the number of PS3 firmware updates.

I'm still in suspense about the "Fall" update for the 360, too. We haven't had even a peep so far about it, which is somewhat unusual.
 

nboy22

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Originally posted by: erwos
The 360 asks before it updates, whether it's the game or the dashboard. But if you say no, it won't let you on Xbox Live. If you say no in a game, it tosses you off XBL for the game. If you say no on the dashboard, you're cut off, period, from XBL. This makes sense from a security standpoint, but I suppose some people could find it annoying.

I would point out, though, that PS3 BC improvements are delivered through firmware, whereas the 360's BC improvements are through the game update mechanism. If you start tossing the BC updates in on the 360's number of "updates", it's much closer to the number of PS3 firmware updates.

I'm still in suspense about the "Fall" update for the 360, too. We haven't had even a peep so far about it, which is somewhat unusual.

Yeah .. basically with a modded xbox I would have no reason to be plugged in once they release that update anyways. I want to wait and hear about all the people that get banned and/or all the people that got lucky and found out they didn't place another firmware checker. Final point is I don't want to have a banned box.

I have no problem waiting to get the new counter-firmware once it's released and re-flashing the 360.

It would suck re-burning all the games with new firmware patches applied to them, but overall it's still cost-efficient because I only pay 50 bucks for 25 discs and that's usually less than the price of one game.
 

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Originally posted by: nboy22
Yeah .. basically with a modded xbox I would have no reason to be plugged in once they release that update anyways. I want to wait and hear about all the people that get banned and/or all the people that got lucky and found out they didn't place another firmware checker. Final point is I don't want to have a banned box.

I have no problem waiting to get the new counter-firmware once it's released and re-flashing the 360.

It would suck re-burning all the games with new firmware patches applied to them, but overall it's still cost-efficient because I only pay 50 bucks for 25 discs and that's usually less than the price of one game.

Cost efficient and also illegal, just like all stealing. :roll:

 

MonKENy

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Originally posted by: RandomFool
It's a bit strange that the longer the console has been out the fewer updates it has received.

not really, the longer a system is out the smoother and smoother it will get. bugs get worked out so less reasons for updates except the minor add on they decide to throw on.
 

Modeps

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Originally posted by: MonKENy
Originally posted by: RandomFool
It's a bit strange that the longer the console has been out the fewer updates it has received.

not really, the longer a system is out the smoother and smoother it will get. bugs get worked out so less reasons for updates except the minor add on they decide to throw on.

I think he means total. Sure when a system has been out longer, the updates should be less frequent, but the 360's dashboard was brand new when it launched, yet it's only got 6 updates, compared to the two other systems.
 

MonKENy

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Cost efficient and also illegal, just like all stealing. :roll:


no, not LIKE stealing it IS stealing. to me its not worth having a bricked (or banned) system to go out and mod it. But I do understand why ppl do it. Im not innocent by anymeans. and not all the music/software I have is 100% legit. So im not condemning you for it. Just saying be careful.
 

nboy22

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: nboy22
Yeah .. basically with a modded xbox I would have no reason to be plugged in once they release that update anyways. I want to wait and hear about all the people that get banned and/or all the people that got lucky and found out they didn't place another firmware checker. Final point is I don't want to have a banned box.

I have no problem waiting to get the new counter-firmware once it's released and re-flashing the 360.

It would suck re-burning all the games with new firmware patches applied to them, but overall it's still cost-efficient because I only pay 50 bucks for 25 discs and that's usually less than the price of one game.

Cost efficient and also illegal, just like all stealing. :roll:

Yes, but life's a bitch and then you die.

I understand it's illegal but I really could not give a rats ass because I'm not about to drop 60+ dollars on a game.


Originally posted by: MonKENy



no, not LIKE stealing it IS stealing. to me its not worth having a bricked (or banned) system to go out and mod it. But I do understand why ppl do it. Im not innocent by anymeans. and not all the music/software I have is 100% legit. So im not condemning you for it. Just saying be careful.

Yes it IS stealing. However, I would actually consider buying the games if they were lower in price. I don't want to feel like I am buying the whole console again every time I purchase few new games.
 

MonKENy

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i know, and plus the fact 2/3 of the time I DO buy a game expecting something good. I get this 1/2 assed crap of a game that seems rushed and or not finished. So i feel like I just wasted 60 bucks. needless to say I dont buy many games. Ill rent if I really want the game or wait till the price comes down (my fav is borrowing though) let my friend pay for it AHH HA HA HA Sucker!
 

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Originally posted by: MonKENy
i know, and plus the fact 2/3 of the time I DO buy a game expecting something good. I get this 1/2 assed crap of a game that seems rushed and or not finished. So i feel like I just wasted 60 bucks. needless to say I dont buy many games. Ill rent if I really want the game or wait till the price comes down (my fav is borrowing though) let my friend pay for it AHH HA HA HA Sucker!

Reviews help with that problem.
 

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Also if you have live you can download many demos for released and upcoming games. Saved me a bundle.
 

MonKENy

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Originally posted by: RandomFool
Originally posted by: MonKENy
i know, and plus the fact 2/3 of the time I DO buy a game expecting something good. I get this 1/2 assed crap of a game that seems rushed and or not finished. So i feel like I just wasted 60 bucks. needless to say I dont buy many games. Ill rent if I really want the game or wait till the price comes down (my fav is borrowing though) let my friend pay for it AHH HA HA HA Sucker!

Reviews help with that problem.

I dont trust reviews, one mans trash is another mans treasure!.

Originally posted by: LordGestle
Also if you have live you can download many demos for released and upcoming games. Saved me a bundle.

Heck yes. i am LOVING the xbl demos. just wish they were a little more fleshed out sometimes.