How many FPS can you notice?

[Flapdrol1337]

On a 24/25inch monitor? You have to take a photo and stare at it to notice the difference.
The only real difference is the price of your video card when you play games.
Now I admit 720p is not ideal but anything over 1080p with a monitor under say 32inches is just epeen but some don't admit it. If the other guy has it, I want it type stuff. Then your mind will tell you ,,,,. yea it does look better, look at that blade of grass, theres no jaggies......really? you just paid an extra 500$ to stop look and stare at a blade of grass to justify your purchase?

Switching a game from 720 to 1080 on my 19" crt makes a massive difference in image quality.

On my 24" lcd it's an even bigger difference because scaling makes it look even worse.

That said I guess if you downsample 2560x1440 to a 720p screen it's probably quite good image quality. But I figured we were talking about game rendering resolution.

 

[happy medium]

And at 100hz I don't see any flicker (in this case from crt

Now for me 85hz I don't see flickering on a CRT.

 

[happy medium]

On my 24" lcd it's an even bigger difference because scaling makes it look even worse.

I admit my other older (2003?) TV is a 37 inch Vizio and it looks like crap at 720p vs 1080p compared to my newer 40 inch screen. The newer TV looks just about as good at 720p as 1080. I think its do to the way different TV's scale things.

 

[bystander36]

Scaling plays a huge part in TV/movie viewing. On PC's and Phones, where things are rendered directly, with no compression, it is another story.

 

[happy medium]

Scaling plays a huge part in TV/movie viewing. On PC's and Phones, where things are rendered directly, with no compression, it is another story.

I notice it for games too when switching from one TV to the other.
The older TV looks like crap. Even the internet and overall desktop looks worse.

Its funny, the new cheap 40" TV was 250$ , and the old 37" one ,13 years ago, cost me over a 1000$.

 

[Eric1987]

The answer is about 50/60 fps, anything more in most games is just people wanting to justify their purchases.

It used to be well known that the difference between 720p and 1080p was barely noticeable but now suddenly people can see the difference between 1080p and 2160p which is total Bullsh!t. I remember the arguments I was around for them. They use the excuse "it depends on the monitor size".
It does if your trying to play on a 70 in TV not the usual 28/32".

10 years from now people will be saying 240fps 244hz @ 4320p is the best.

Wait what? There is a HUGE difference between 1080 and 2160p. You are literally insane if you can't tell the difference.

 

[happy medium]

Wait what? There is a HUGE difference between 1080 and 2160p. You are literally insane if you can't tell the difference.

On a 24/28 inch screen? You must be superman to see that. LIke I said when you get into the real large screens you might have a point.

Mabe you can explain to me the difference. When your playing a game whats the difference? You really can't tell me because you would need the same manufacturer, of the same type/quality panels with 2 different resolutions, with the same size panels.

If you can do that,mabe I'll believe you.
Don't tell me my Acer year 2000 24 inch 1080p monitor looked like crap compared to my 2015 Dell 2160p 28" monitor. Well chances are it did.

 

[Eric1987]

On a 24/28 inch screen? You must be superman to see that. LIke I said when you get into the real large screens you might have a point.

No. I have 3 monitors connected to my PC. A 28 inch 4k monitor. A 24 inch 1080p and a 40 inch 1080p. I have played a 1080p video on my 24 inch and a 4k on my 28 inch and the difference is huge. Even compressed youtube videos is huge.

 

[bystander36]

It is kind of ironic, the person who can't comprehend that others may see more frames past 60 FPS, is being told that there isn't a difference beyond 1080p on a 24/28 inch screen.

 

[Eric1987]

It is kind of ironic, the person who can't comprehend that others may see more frames past 60 FPS, is being told that there isn't a difference beyond 1080p on a 24/28 inch screen.

Whatever you say. I wish I had a 4k camera to show the difference. Just watching nature videos in 4k on youtube vs 1080p is huge. It looks glorious in 4k. Another reason above 60 FPS is pointless. I'd rather see the detail then get more FPS.

 

[happy medium]

It is kind of ironic, the person who can't comprehend that others may see more frames past 60 FPS

Oh I can comprehend,I do realize that some people are super sensitive to this stuff but most are not.

 

[monstercameron]

Oh I can comprehend,I do realize that some people are super sensitive to this stuff but most are not.

Any data to back up that assertion?

 

[happy medium]

I have played a 1080p video on my 24 inch and a 4k on my 28 inch and the difference is huge.

Upload a youtube video, show me the money. ARe they both quality IPS monitors? Its not a 200$ 24" Acer TN panel vs a 900$ 28" LG super IPS panel is it?

 

[happy medium]

Any data to back up that assertion?

SO do you have any that I'm wrong? Google it.

 

[bystander36]

Whatever you say. I wish I had a 4k camera to show the difference. Just watching nature videos in 4k on youtube vs 1080p is huge. It looks glorious in 4k. Another reason above 60 FPS is pointless. I'd rather see the detail then get more FPS.

I didn't say I believed him. The irony is you can't believe others can see more than 60 FPS, even though plenty of people here do, and you've run into a person with the same belief issue in happy medium, who can't believe others see a difference past 1080p.

And unfortunately, taking a 4k picture wouldn't be enough. Unless the viewer is using a 4k display, they won't see it in 4k and if they had a 4k display, they wouldn't need the picture.

 

[monstercameron]

SO do you have any that I'm wrong? Google it.

Hmm why are you so defensive? You made a claim and I am curious how you got to that conclusion...

 

[bystander36]

SO do you have any that I'm wrong? Google it.

Look up the term "retina display". I think that should give you plenty of info.

 

[happy medium]

Hmm why are you so defensive? You made a claim and I am curious how you got to that conclusion...

I'm curious as to yours ,and I'm not defensive. I believe in what I say. I've seen this kind of post 100 times and its only a few compared to many (usually the ones who just spent 1000$ on a monitor) that fight to the end.

 

[Spanners]

I notice the difference between 60Hz/fps and 96Hz/fps more than the difference between 96Hz/fps and 120Hz/fps (I always use v-sync). That's the limit of my experience though. Have seen 144Hz monitors in person but without the feel of controlling the action it's hard to judge much.

 

[monstercameron]

I'm curious as to yours ,and I'm not defensive. I believe in what I say. I've seen this kind of post 100 times and its only a few compared to many (usually the ones who just spent 1000$ on a monitor) that fight to the end.

So you only have anecdotal evidence?

 

[happy medium]

retina display

= waste of money ,I don't have to look it up. Apple will sell you your own mother for a profit.

 

[happy medium]

So you only have anecdotal evidence

and you have? I have a best buy /micro center in the area if that helps.

See where I'm getting at?

 

[bystander36]

I notice the difference between 60Hz and 96Hz more than the difference between 96Hz and 120Hz. That's the limit of my experience though. Have seen 144Hz monitors in action but without the feel of controlling the action it's hard to judge much.

I definitely believe there is diminishing returns.

 

[bystander36]

= waste of money ,I don't have to look it up.

You don't have to buy it. Just read what it is. That should be proof enough that we see a difference past 1080p on a monitor.

 

[happy medium]

You don't have to buy it. Just read what it is. That should be proof enough that we see a difference past 1080p on a monitor.

We as people? So you saying that once everythings at retina display quality/resolution all will stop. No they will sell the suckers something else and tell them "you can now see this".

Like I said for very large monitors 32" plus there might be a little difference but come on ........under that your grasping at straws.