How long would it take to buy property out of college?

Koenigsegg

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Say I graduate in June of next year, land a $50k/yr job, live rent free at home..maybe buy a moderate priced car..15-20k, and otherwise don't spend much money on anything.

What's a realistic goal for buying a moderate priced (by Bay Area standards) condo along the lines of $400k or so? How long would it take?
 

Kalbi

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400K condo in the Bay Area? You think this is 5 years ago?

Try get married + 20% down.
 

CrazyDe1

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Originally posted by: Koenigsegg
Say I graduate in June of next year, land a $50k/yr job, live rent free at home..maybe buy a moderate priced car..15-20k, and otherwise don't spend much money on anything.

What's a realistic goal for buying a moderate priced (by Bay Area standards) condo along the lines of $400k or so? How long would it take?

On that income and at that price...never
 

nakedfrog

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You could buy a cheaper car that would work just as well and have that much more to put aside for your downpayment.
 

mugs

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$50k/year and $400k condo? Do some math, your mortgage payment will take up the majority of your income after taxes.
 

LS20

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Originally posted by: Koenigsegg
Say I graduate in June of next year, land a $50k/yr job, live rent free at home..maybe buy a moderate priced car..15-20k, and otherwise don't spend much money on anything.

What's a realistic goal for buying a moderate priced (by Bay Area standards) condo along the lines of $400k or so? How long would it take?


my good friend graduated, landed a 55k+ engineering gig with nasa, lived free 2 years by "housesitting" for a friend that went to europe, bought a 10k car, and this summer just bought a house entirely by himself... hes 23 y/o...

but i would wager that he is cheaper than anyone you know... but he is seriously the cheapest bastard alive
 

Landroval

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Originally posted by: LS20
Originally posted by: Koenigsegg
Say I graduate in June of next year, land a $50k/yr job, live rent free at home..maybe buy a moderate priced car..15-20k, and otherwise don't spend much money on anything.

What's a realistic goal for buying a moderate priced (by Bay Area standards) condo along the lines of $400k or so? How long would it take?


my good friend graduated, landed a 55k+ engineering gig with nasa, lived free 2 years by "housesitting" for a friend that went to europe, bought a 10k car, and this summer just bought a house entirely by himself... hes 23 y/o...

but i would wager that he is cheaper than anyone you know... but he is seriously the cheapest bastard alive


How much was the house?
 

Albis

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depending on your firm, you might be able to get some financing them through them that will get you a slightly bigger house than you technically can afford
 
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400k Condo? 400k buys us a shack here. The house down the block with 2 bedrooms and 1/4 acre lot just sold for 900k, closer to a million.

50k a year leaves you virtuall 0 disposable income. You're dead.
 

thomsbrain

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don't buy a new car, drive a used one. save like crazy. with that income, you will need a big down payment. most homeowners in the bay area are two-income households, these days.

of course, if you plan to rent out extra rooms, you can handle a bigger payment.
 

czech09

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Move to FL, the market here is pretty huge and houses aren't that expensive in some places. CA? 50K a year? 400k condo? Good luck with that...
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Albis
depending on your firm, you might be able to get some financing them through them that will get you a slightly bigger house than you technically can afford

There's no way anything could POSSIBLY go wrong if you do this.
 

notfred

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I have no idea why in the hell people ever prioritize buying cars for tens of thousands of dollars over becoming self-sufficeint and moving out of thier parents' houses.
 

BurnItDwn

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With a 50K per year job you are simply not going to afford a 400K house without a HUGE down payment.
Make 50K, pay Taxes etc, cost of living, car, gas, etc.

At most you will save 20K to 30K per year (if you are frugal and have help from family.)

The old rule of thumb by lenders is that the long term debt to income ratio should never exceed 36% of income (though banks may be a bit more liberal with their loans these days.)
The other old rule of thumb by lenders is that the Housing Expense-to-Income Ratio should be 28% or less of income (though again, banks may be a bit more liberal with their loans these days.)

Monthly housing expenses include payments for principal, interest, property taxes, hazard insurance, private mortgage insurance (if required), and condo or homeowner's fees (if required).

In my case, I bought a 115K townhome last year with 0% down payment. I had a credit rating around 750 and at the time I purchased, I was making only about 40K per year.


That means that my long term debt to income ratio was about 28%
Principal, Interest, Property Taxes, Hazard insurance, and PMI add up to about 900 or so per month (and I managed to get a 4.25% ARM through my credit union) On top of that, My association dues are about 180 per month.
So my yearly housing expenses are just under 13,000.

At the time I purchased, I had a Housing Expense to Income ratio of 32.5%.

I haven't had any problems keeping up with payments at all, though I have also recieved two raises totaling about 10% in that time as well.


So, for a 400K home, you would need to save/invest and live as cheap as you could for 5 to 10 years on a 50K income, until you came up with over 200K for the down payment. It is possible though, with interest rates being low, and banks taking more risks, and offering "interest only" type of loans, that you may possibly be able to qualify for bigger then a 200K loan, though I am for from a morgage broker or loan expert. I only know what I know from my own home purchase here in one of the cheaper burbs of Chicago.
(On the plus side, my townhome is worth about 25K more now then when I purchased it. It's actually increasing in value faster then in many of the less inexpensive towns. Hopefully another year or two and I can afford to move closer to work and pick up a 200K SFH with a basement and garage (though at 200K, I would still need to drive 30 minutes + to/from work, and I would probably only get 2 bedrooms as anything bigger is closer to 250K or above)
 

LS20

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Originally posted by: Landroval


How much was the house?

something like 130k i think... its in houston, so real estate is real cheap. ill check it out during the house warming next month
 

wiredspider

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Well, are do you mean buy fully as one big payment or just be able to put a down payment down with some mortgage?
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: notfred
I have no idea why in the hell people ever prioritize buying cars for tens of thousands of dollars over becoming self-sufficeint and moving out of thier parents' houses.